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Post by georgeonthelights on Mar 29, 2016 16:43:56 GMT
As it says above, they've been quite extensively reviewed in this month's Mag; fair to say it's a very honest appraisal from the reviewer who clearly knows his stuff about them (and sounds like he genuinely likes their "classic" stuff)...including a great line , saying that they "had more skill than outsiders imagined". There is one howling factual error about the second disc on OTL but otherwise it's a genuinely good read. There's an interview with Rossi too.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 29, 2016 17:23:18 GMT
A big difference from this one......
"They may be an easy target, but these reissues of Quo’s third and fourth LPs from 1970 and 1971 serve only to show how long this band’s sideshow has been gulling the innocent. Rossi and Parfitt kick the odd ember from their interesting psychedelic “Matchstick Men” heyday on 1970’s “Daughter”, “Shy Fly” and “Everything”. At times, one is animated by how groovily garage-punky Quo could sound. But by the time of Dog, one wonders how they secured a deal, let alone a place in rock history. Lacking Purple’s heaviness, Zep’s finesse and Canned Heat’s rootsiness, this music resists critical salvage."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 17:57:54 GMT
Although I certainly get the bluesy boogie tinged Canned Heat connection, I have no idea at all why Quo should be compared to Led Zeppelin, and, to a a large degree, also Deep Purple.
Led Zeppelin were a progressive rock band in the heavier stable to bands like Pink Floyd etc. Deep Purple were never a rock boogie band either - with an emphasis on keyboards (and a slightly Gothic flavour to them) in their music to the front of their sound - which was nothing that typified Quo (although Daughter is a bit Deep Purple-ish with its keyboards).
Vocalist wise, also no similarities. Alan and Rick had distinctive enough rock vocals, alongside the nasally sometimes country tinged style of Francis, but Quo have never had typical shouty or simulated orgasm style singing such as in Led Zep and Deep Purple .
Rock boogie isn't meant to have theatrical musical passages and individual virtuoso solos from every band member. Its closer to an amplified version of Chuck Berry. The closest Led Zep got to playing boogie was 'Rock n' Roll' - and Robert Plants vocals on that take away any resemblance to anything similar that Quo might do.
Dumb comparisons basically
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Post by georgeonthelights on Mar 31, 2016 18:28:56 GMT
A big difference from this one...... "They may be an easy target, but these reissues of Quo’s third and fourth LPs from 1970 and 1971 serve only to show how long this band’s sideshow has been gulling the innocent. Rossi and Parfitt kick the odd ember from their interesting psychedelic “Matchstick Men” heyday on 1970’s “Daughter”, “Shy Fly” and “Everything”. At times, one is animated by how groovily garage-punky Quo could sound. But by the time of Dog, one wonders how they secured a deal, let alone a place in rock history. Lacking Purple’s heaviness, Zep’s finesse and Canned Heat’s rootsiness, this music resists critical salvage." Was that the same reviewer (Dace Cavanagh)?! I'd be highly surprised if it was. This month's UNCUT reviews are good because they've given them pretty extensive coverage (main feature of their reissues section, couple of pages), taken them seriously, but also I'd say a fair review and not the usual style of reviews from someone who probably hasn't listened to them. I've bought the "Heat" one (and I have my reasons for that, despite it being, IMO, very very ordinary) but on the strength of his comments about the WYW extra disc, I'll probably get that as well now. It's just good that they get a reasoned and well-thought review...for a change, and UNCUT's a decent mag that isn't up its own *rse, trying to be cool.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Mar 31, 2016 18:39:41 GMT
A big difference from this one...... "They may be an easy target, but these reissues of Quo’s third and fourth LPs from 1970 and 1971 serve only to show how long this band’s sideshow has been gulling the innocent. Rossi and Parfitt kick the odd ember from their interesting psychedelic “Matchstick Men” heyday on 1970’s “Daughter”, “Shy Fly” and “Everything”. At times, one is animated by how groovily garage-punky Quo could sound. But by the time of Dog, one wonders how they secured a deal, let alone a place in rock history. Lacking Purple’s heaviness, Zep’s finesse and Canned Heat’s rootsiness, this music resists critical salvage." Was that the same reviewer (Dace Cavanagh)?! I'd be highly surprised if it was. This month's UNCUT reviews are good because they've given them pretty extensive coverage (main feature of their reissues section, couple of pages), taken them seriously, but also I'd say a fair review and not the usual style of reviews from someone who probably hasn't listened to them. I've bought the "Heat" one (and I have my reasons for that, despite it being, IMO, very very ordinary) but on the strength of his comments about the WYW extra disc, I'll probably get that as well now. It's just good that they get a reasoned and well-thought review...for a change, and UNCUT's a decent mag that isn't up its own *rse, trying to be cool. Great to see, GOTL! I stumbled across that review when I was looking for the one mentioned... Are there any links for that one yet?
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Post by frank on Mar 31, 2016 18:58:02 GMT
I've still got a few uncut mags from around 2000 when I used to buy it.
These days I read it in John Menzies and download the free CD from the net.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 31, 2016 19:20:32 GMT
A big difference from this one...... "They may be an easy target, but these reissues of Quo’s third and fourth LPs from 1970 and 1971 serve only to show how long this band’s sideshow has been gulling the innocent. Rossi and Parfitt kick the odd ember from their interesting psychedelic “Matchstick Men” heyday on 1970’s “Daughter”, “Shy Fly” and “Everything”. At times, one is animated by how groovily garage-punky Quo could sound. But by the time of Dog, one wonders how they secured a deal, let alone a place in rock history. Lacking Purple’s heaviness, Zep’s finesse and Canned Heat’s rootsiness, this music resists critical salvage." In a way its a fair review He just doesn't get Quo Lots of bad reviews from rock press have stuff like "not great players","not great singers" or "too simple / one dimensional" Again, those reviewers just don't get Quo. As popular as Quo were in hard rock and metal circles, there were at least as many rock fans again that didn't get them either!
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 31, 2016 22:14:16 GMT
A big difference from this one...... " ... this music resists critical salvage." This is because IT HASN'T BEEN LOST and WE GOT THERE FIRST! Salvage my ar*e. Who said those tossers could have it anyway?
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 31, 2016 22:19:41 GMT
... the closest Led Zep got to playing boogie was 'Rock n' Roll' - and Robert Plants vocals on that take away any resemblance to anything similar that Quo might do. Beena long time beena long time beena long lonely lonely lonely time boogga wooga wooga wooga (parp parpa parp) booga wooga wooga wooga ... Fine version HERE Not remotely like Quo, not meant to be!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 10:12:03 GMT
... the closest Led Zep got to playing boogie was 'Rock n' Roll' - and Robert Plants vocals on that take away any resemblance to anything similar that Quo might do. Beena long time beena long time beena long lonely lonely lonely time boogga wooga wooga wooga (parp parpa parp) booga wooga wooga wooga ... Fine version HERE Not remotely like Quo, not meant to be! My cousin frank tells me that according to twitter sources, Francis and Rick are collaborating with the Foo Fighters as one of the projects they have lined up after the last 'electric' tour
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Post by Railroad17 on Apr 1, 2016 16:33:02 GMT
Beena long time beena long time beena long lonely lonely lonely time boogga wooga wooga wooga (parp parpa parp) booga wooga wooga wooga ... Fine version HERE Not remotely like Quo, not meant to be! My cousin frank tells me that according to twitter sources, Francis and Rick are collaborating with the Foo Fighters as one of the projects they have lined up after the last 'electric' tour
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 18:20:53 GMT
A big difference from this one...... "They may be an easy target, but these reissues of Quo’s third and fourth LPs from 1970 and 1971 serve only to show how long this band’s sideshow has been gulling the innocent. Rossi and Parfitt kick the odd ember from their interesting psychedelic “Matchstick Men” heyday on 1970’s “Daughter”, “Shy Fly” and “Everything”. At times, one is animated by how groovily garage-punky Quo could sound. But by the time of Dog, one wonders how they secured a deal, let alone a place in rock history. Lacking Purple’s heaviness, Zep’s finesse and Canned Heat’s rootsiness, this music resists critical salvage." Hi All, Are not Purple and Zep especially at that time period considered as Heavy Rock rather than the Boogie Rock that Quo were at the time ? Quo have never been a total Balls to the wall Heavy Rock/Metal band they just carved out their own niche in an ever changing music scene changing their music to suit of the time.
Like I have mentioned in other posts they have adapted not to everyone's liking admittedly but they are still around (Just) and are capable of producing the heavier stuff still that we as fans got us hooked in the first place. It's up to the individual as to weather they a like a certain era of Quo and what they consider their sound to be, to each person they are more than likely different but would probably say they had something at the time that for whatever reason they got picked up and the rest is history including all the negativity that Quo have received (Along with us lot )
At the end of the day it's us as fans that either like what we hear or read we just take the reviews as a guide. The reviewer is only offering his opinion on his like or dislike of whatever bands output he is listening to out of the many he /she would actually have to plough through every year it is for you the fan to decide good or bad simple!........
Geoff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 10:13:13 GMT
A big difference from this one...... "They may be an easy target, but these reissues of Quo’s third and fourth LPs from 1970 and 1971 serve only to show how long this band’s sideshow has been gulling the innocent. Rossi and Parfitt kick the odd ember from their interesting psychedelic “Matchstick Men” heyday on 1970’s “Daughter”, “Shy Fly” and “Everything”. At times, one is animated by how groovily garage-punky Quo could sound. But by the time of Dog, one wonders how they secured a deal, let alone a place in rock history. Lacking Purple’s heaviness, Zep’s finesse and Canned Heat’s rootsiness, this music resists critical salvage." Hi All, Are not Purple and Zep especially at that time period considered as Heavy Rock rather than the Boogie Rock that Quo were at the time ? Quo have never been a total Balls to the wall Heavy Rock/Metal band they just carved out their own niche in an ever changing music scene changing their music to suit of the time.
Like I have mentioned in other posts they have adapted not to everyone's liking admittedly but they are still around (Just) and are capable of producing the heavier stuff still that we as fans got us hooked in the first place. It's up to the individual as to weather they a like a certain era of Quo and what they consider their sound to be, to each person they are more than likely different but would probably say they had something at the time that for whatever reason they got picked up and the rest is history including all the negativity that Quo have received (Along with us lot )
At the end of the day it's us as fans that either like what we hear or read we just take the reviews as a guide. The reviewer is only offering his opinion on his like or dislike of whatever bands output he is listening to out of the many he /she would actually have to plough through every year it is for you the fan to decide good or bad simple!........
Geoff.
I was surprised when Rick said that Alan was 'stuck in the 70's' because he has himself always supported the full-on boogie rock approach of Quo. The appeal of Quo to many was their lack of sophistication in their hey-day 70's period, as typified by this full-on approach. Maybe this being a crucial part that some reviewers/critics didn't 'get' ?
I think its a case that modern Quo could have left a little of the extra polish they have given to their show at home. A lot of people will disagree with this, but the HT and ISOTFC albums were perhaps the closest albums that CQ have made as modern albums closest to the original simple unsophisticated ethos.
Rhino's approach and style is so different to Alan though. I like Rhino, and I like some of the songs he has written - but I do wonder what albums like HT and ISOTFC might have sounded like with Alan playing instead. I don't know what wobbly bass fills are (a reference to something written recently about Rhino's playing in ROLD). But my ear tells me that the straighter punchier style of Alan is one key difference between original Quo, and modern Quo
The FF collectively, played like a naturally instinctive band. It seemed to me that they could plug in and play and in some senses the less it was rehearsed, the better. CQ always speak of rehearsals even though the set they play is etched in their sleep. Collectively, although they have been together for over 30 yrs, they still come across rather like polished session musicians.
Maybe, in this way they have gone a step further than need be to assuage the music critics that they are cleverer than they have always been given credit for. There was a time that writing a song like 'Who asked you' was all that was required.
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Post by Gaz on Apr 2, 2016 11:05:54 GMT
... the closest Led Zep got to playing boogie was 'Rock n' Roll' - and Robert Plants vocals on that take away any resemblance to anything similar that Quo might do. Beena long time beena long time beena long lonely lonely lonely time boogga wooga wooga wooga (parp parpa parp) booga wooga wooga wooga ... Fine version HERE Not remotely like Quo, not meant to be! After watching Jimmy Pages efforts there I appreciate Francis Rossi so much more... Just watch Francis let it rip on say Railroad or Blue Eyed Lady on the FF Dublin gig.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:22:49 GMT
Hi All, I suppose looking at any band you could equate any change to whatever you want ? Say the band members in this instance it is like changing different parts of an car engine for improvement whatever you do it affects how it runs both for better or worse. Changing the Carbs,Cylinder Bores,Exhaust system,Skimming the heads adding or taking parts off etc.etc.etc. While you may try and improve the performance it does not always work and can either improve it vastly or not at all.
The trouble is when you work on an engine you usually know what your doing, in Quo's case it's like they have changed the mechanic every five minutes and have just settled to get the engine running rather than fix the problems that have caused such consternation among the fans unfortunately............. doh
Geoff.
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