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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 11:47:24 GMT
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 7, 2016 12:59:59 GMT
Guys. Can we keep this thread on the right side of libel please. Any personal attacks will mean I'll have to delete the thread. Just remember who will be on the sharp end of lawyers letters.
I know it's an emotive discussion but keep things factual without ad hominem attacks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 14:25:01 GMT
It always amazes me how so many of a bands 'fans' know so much about band management but yet don't manage bands.....
Very strange....
An obvious waste of talent...........
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Post by derryquo on Feb 7, 2016 14:34:21 GMT
It always amazes me how so many of a bands 'fans' know so much about band management but yet don't manage bands..... Very strange.... An obvious waste of talent........... I am not sure what your point is but if your question is could some fans do a btter job than Simon porter....well, let me think about that
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Post by vivfromcov on Feb 7, 2016 14:38:00 GMT
Oh Mr Porter what shall I do? I want to see the Frantic Four but you're giving us CQ Get the classic line back as quickly as you can Oh Mr Porter what a silly girl I am..... (me, not you Derry....!)
I do agree with some of the sentiments of your post Derry. You are obviously very passionate about Quo and have put a lot of thought into it but I think we should wait until we know what 'specials' they have undoubtedly already planned before we slag anyone off.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Feb 7, 2016 16:03:53 GMT
I don't need to be a GP to have an opinion as to whether mine is any good or not!
On the other hand I do think Quo's management get more flak than they deserve. Whether management are simply delivering what the band ask of them, or (as appears to be the case and is depressing) Quo simply don't know and follow managements ideas...how the band are marketed and what things they do are still the bands responsibility. Rick and Francis are not daft and have been in the business forever....
Also, think BulaQuo. It's naff and awful in every way because the film turned out really crap. The decision to make a film wasn't a bad one. It's not managements fault that a poor script was produced awfully, resulting in a genuinely diabolic film. It could have been a cult hit...then management would have been clever.
Glad it's not my job!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 17:14:31 GMT
It always amazes me how so many of a bands 'fans' know so much about band management but yet don't manage bands..... Very strange.... An obvious waste of talent........... I am not sure what your point is but if your question is could some fans do a btter job than Simon porter....well, let me think about that Of course they can DQ! No doubt most 'fans' are able to administer European licensing deals, PRS/PPL/MCPS returns, insurance, medical, tour arrangements, TV & radio promotion, accountancy and tax returns, etc, etc, etc. Most fans are fully experienced in running a multi-million pound company employing many full time staff along with all the legal stuff that goes along with that.
Simply saying Simon Porter does a crap job shows just how clueless you are I'm afraid.
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Post by derryquo on Feb 7, 2016 17:32:01 GMT
I am not sure what your point is but if your question is could some fans do a btter job than Simon porter....well, let me think about that Of course they can DQ! No doubt most 'fans' are able to administer European licensing deals, PRS/PPL/MCPS returns, insurance, medical, tour arrangements, TV & radio promotion, accountancy and tax returns, etc, etc, etc. Most fans are fully experienced in running a multi-million pound company employing many full time staff along with all the legal stuff that goes along with that.
Simply saying Simon Porter does a crap job shows just how clueless you are I'm afraid.
I have been warned about the potential to be libelous so I will keep this nice..none of those are matted that can't be learned or pay people to do..porters main job is to keep fans happy..how is he doing with that task
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Post by wolfman on Feb 7, 2016 17:49:19 GMT
I am not sure what your point is but if your question is could some fans do a btter job than Simon porter....well, let me think about that Of course they can DQ! No doubt most 'fans' are able to administer European licensing deals, PRS/PPL/MCPS returns, insurance, medical, tour arrangements, TV & radio promotion, accountancy and tax returns, etc, etc, etc. Most fans are fully experienced in running a multi-million pound company employing many full time staff along with all the legal stuff that goes along with that.
Simply saying Simon Porter does a crap job shows just how clueless you are I'm afraid.
yeah if ya say so....porter s been in touch with oxo....a new cube called laughing stock..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 18:48:56 GMT
I don't need to be a GP to have an opinion as to whether mine is any good or not! On the other hand I do think Quo's management get more flak than they deserve. Whether management are simply delivering what the band ask of them, or (as appears to be the case and is depressing) Quo simply don't know and follow managements ideas...how the band are marketed and what things they do are still the bands responsibility. Rick and Francis are not daft and have been in the business forever.... Also, think BulaQuo. It's naff and awful in every way because the film turned out really crap. The decision to make a film wasn't a bad one. It's not managements fault that a poor script was produced awfully, resulting in a genuinely diabolic film. It could have been a cult hit...then management would have been clever. Glad it's not my job! Bula Quo IS a cult hit. That was always going to be the case because just like gigs, as long as people got to see Quo, it didn't matter how crap it was. If you look at the IMDB page you'll see that most users voted the film 1/10. The second highest number voted it 10/10. That is quite remarkable. In the reviews section it's people we know who post on the MBs. Because it was Quo - who fans see more as their family than a band - that is why the film gets such a ludicrously high rating. Any other band and they would have hated the film. Porter was the film's executive producer, so he certainly approved the final edit. I put it that the guy has no taste whatsoever. He thinks the likes of Joe Brown, Terry and Gerry and John Miles are suitable support acts, so is evidently clueless about who Quo should be aimed at. As such, he should NOT be managing the band. I realize that Quo have done nearly everything and names for stuff are hard to come by but Quid Pro Quo, Quofestive, Hello Quo, Bula Quo, Aquostic - COME ON! Surely they can do better than that?!! This would be unacceptable to fans of other bands, so why is it OK for Quo? Because it's "funny"? And billybragg can prattle on all he likes about fans not being experienced as Porter, but you don't have to work in the music industry to be able to say something is s**t when it clearly is. Fans COULD come up with better ideas, but sadly, Porter and the majority of CQ fans would think they're "too serious" for a band like Quo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 20:07:47 GMT
Of course they can DQ! No doubt most 'fans' are able to administer European licensing deals, PRS/PPL/MCPS returns, insurance, medical, tour arrangements, TV & radio promotion, accountancy and tax returns, etc, etc, etc. Most fans are fully experienced in running a multi-million pound company employing many full time staff along with all the legal stuff that goes along with that.
Simply saying Simon Porter does a crap job shows just how clueless you are I'm afraid.
I have been warned about the potential to be libelous so I will keep this nice..none of those are matted that can't be learned or pay people to do..porters main job is to keep fans happy..how is he doing with that task Simon Porters main job is to MANAGE the day to day running of the COMPANY 'Status Quo'.
It is the BAND's job to keep the fans happy, not the manager!
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Post by colmfoley on Feb 7, 2016 21:54:26 GMT
Oh Mr Porter what shall I do? I want to see the Frantic Four but you're giving us CQ Get the classic line back as quickly as you can Oh Mr Porter what a silly girl I am..... (me, not you Derry....!) I do agree with some of the sentiments of your post Derry. You are obviously very passionate about Quo and have put a lot of thought into it but I think we should wait until we know what 'specials' they have undoubtedly already planned before we slag anyone off. Ah feck waiting for the so called 'Specials' most likely be another CQ gimmick..though I'll gladly eat humble pie and say fair play well done to Porter/Rossi should we be ever given the chance to see Status Quo FF on stage again farewell or otherwise..!!
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 7, 2016 22:06:15 GMT
re: Bula Quo being a cult hit. I've looked on imdb and that is not what I see. 233 people gave it a star rating which averages as 3.4/10. And there are 10 reviews. I would expect a cult hit to have much higher numbers of reviews and a larger no of people to have rated it for it to be a cult hit.
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Post by derryquo on Feb 7, 2016 23:26:05 GMT
Bula quo is a cult hit with Freddie fans only...to be fair..that's the minority of so called fans...and feck fo they do my head in
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Post by kachunk on Feb 8, 2016 0:25:11 GMT
I am not sure what your point is but if your question is could some fans do a btter job than Simon porter....well, let me think about that Of course they can DQ! No doubt most 'fans' are able to administer European licensing deals, PRS/PPL/MCPS returns, insurance, medical, tour arrangements, TV & radio promotion, accountancy and tax returns, etc, etc, etc. Most fans are fully experienced in running a multi-million pound company employing many full time staff along with all the legal stuff that goes along with that.
Simply saying Simon Porter does a crap job shows just how clueless you are I'm afraid.
You are right.Most fans wouldn't have a clue how to administer all of the above things that you mention. However,in the same way that you don't need to be a manager of a football team yourself to understand when a manager of a football team drops a tactical bollock,Quo fans don't need to be clued up on managing a band to realise that the "projects",promotion of these "projects" and the end result product of these "projects" of Quo, are quite plainly rubbish.
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