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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 8, 2024 16:52:27 GMT
Mystery Song - I remember a radio interview where the band said it was very much a collaborative effort built around a RP guitar lick.
Given that they always tell the tale that they left Rick sitting on a stool playing a riff when they left the studio, and he was still there 13 hours later, that sounds quite likely
Agast to hear that "This is me" was written by Rhino ... it's 1980s Rick to a toenail. I guess it's not done to call a song "This is you!"
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Post by ashakike on Jul 8, 2024 20:59:52 GMT
The lyrics of This is me are obviously written by Rick...and probably the music is a collaboration between him and Rhino...a combination between both, like all the Rossi/Young songs ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by mortified on Jul 10, 2024 21:04:07 GMT
This Is Me was written by Rhino. All of it. Just sayin'
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Jul 10, 2024 21:35:12 GMT
Yep, i read an interview with Rhino in which he definitely said he wrote the lyrics to This Is Me
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Post by roadhouse on Jul 11, 2024 14:18:56 GMT
This Is Me was written by Rhino. All of it. Just sayin' I remember thinking at the time this is odd, writing a song for someone else called This is me 🤔 but then not the oddest thing Quo has ever done 😁
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Post by mortified on Jul 11, 2024 14:46:34 GMT
This Is Me was written by Rhino. All of it. Just sayin' I remember thinking at the time this is odd, writing a song for someone else called This is me 🤔 but then not the oddest thing Quo has ever done 😁 He wrote it after Rick's run-in with the News of the World when they covered that bloke's suicide. Or it was something like that. I never actually read the article myself. How we came to know is because Mrs Mortified detests the song; she thinks it's Quo's worst (no, seriously!). But she had the balls to mention that to Rhino in a bar once (Rhino in a bar? Surely not? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ) and he laughed and said " I wrote that; what's wrong with it?" Then he gave us the story behind it 👍
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Post by theprogfather on Jul 11, 2024 14:57:16 GMT
The lyrics to Whatever You Want were definitely written by Andy.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jul 11, 2024 15:49:08 GMT
dennisI think they must have talked about shared songwritimg credits. They were pals with Queen who did it, so I'm sure it must have come up in band discussions during the 70's I'm guessing Francis and bob will have been strongly against as they wrote most of the hits. I'm guessing Alan won't have liked that answer and that it was a source of friction.
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Post by dennis on Jul 11, 2024 15:58:17 GMT
dennis I think they must have talked about shared songwritimg credits. They were pals with Queen who did it, so I'm sure it must have come up in band discussions during the 70's I'm guessing Francis and bob will have been strongly against as they wrote most of the hits. I'm guessing Alan won't have liked that answer and that it was a source of friction. aye, little did they know that Rossi had, arguably, peaked by '75
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Post by roadhouse on Jul 11, 2024 17:58:45 GMT
I remember thinking at the time this is odd, writing a song for someone else called This is me 🤔 but then not the oddest thing Quo has ever done 😁 He wrote it after Rick's run-in with the News of the World when they covered that bloke's suicide. Or it was something like that. I never actually read the article myself. How we came to know is because Mrs Mortified detests the song; she thinks it's Quo's worst (no, seriously!). But she had the balls to mention that to Rhino in a bar once (Rhino in a bar? Surely not? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ) and he laughed and said " I wrote that; what's wrong with it?" Then he gave us the story behind it 👍 I had the privilege of having a pint with Rhino in a pub in Plymouth in the afternoon before the gig there. It was the In search of the fourth chord tour. We sat and chatted like we've known each other for years, Rhino has that lovely quality that makes you feel your a mate, and he asked me what are my favourite tracks on the album, I said that's difficult as I like all the tracks, but joked that Bad news is right up in the top 3, he chuckled and signed my vinyl album of it. Moments I cherish forever, also met Andy, and Matt that afternoon. Was hoping to bump into Francis and Rick, but it never happened.
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Jul 11, 2024 21:30:36 GMT
As a complete aside, i love Matt’s powerful drumming at the end of This Is Me during the outro.
It’s something that never gets a mention. Probably because the somg isn’t discussed much
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Post by frozenhero on Jul 11, 2024 21:44:47 GMT
If you want other examples: Long Legged Linda - Written over five years before the Quo version was released, but had gained a RP credit in that time. Mystery Song - I remember a radio interview where the band said it was very much a collaborative effort built around a RP guitar lick. Gravy Train - Fully formed Rhino demo was doing the rounds long before ISOTFC and again had a RP credit added. This Is Me - A song I believe was totally Rhino. The credit for Long Legged Linda was corrected on later pressings, and my copy of ISOTFC doesn't credit Rick for Gravy Train.
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Post by matt on Jul 15, 2024 6:46:04 GMT
I sometimes feel like Rick got credit as a proviso for the songs being included, or maybe he was persuasive and powerful enough within the band to get a credit where there maybe was none
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Post by mortified on Jul 15, 2024 7:49:12 GMT
Compositions and royalties are a funny thing. Writers seem to get very possessive.
Someone will come up with an idea - OK, more than just an idea - and bring it to the band but then I get the impression everyone contributes after that. Whether it's with the odd observation or just being involved in playing the song. Unless you're a solo singer/songwriter, you're never doing it all on your own.
That sound is as important to Quo's music as anything else. And Rick, for all his faults and lack of writing contributions, was essential to it.
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Post by roadhouse on Jul 15, 2024 14:02:11 GMT
Compositions and royalties are a funny thing. Writers seem to get very possessive. Someone will come up with an idea - OK, more than just an idea - and bring it to the band but then I get the impression everyone contributes after that. Whether it's with the odd observation or just being involved in playing the song. Unless you're a solo singer/songwriter, you're never doing it all on your own. That sound is as important to Quo's music as anything else. And Rick, for all his faults and lack of writing contributions, was essential to it. I think this is or was the main reason there was so much friction that was going on between Francis and Alan, was down to Francis's writing clashed with how Alan percieved how Quo should continue. A bit like Alan was trying to be the bands quality control. So many songs slipped through this net of Alan's quality control, but it didn't slip through without arguments and friction which infected the whole band. It might have even been part of the reason Coghlan was so down in the dumps. But the lid blew off this pressure cooker in the end, and Francis found it impossible to write and record anything new with Alan in the band, hence why the only way Francis was going to continue with Quo was to not have Alan part of it. Possibility a coincidence, but to me Rick's song writing seemed lackluster after Coghlan left. Perhaps he lost interest the fact that magic circle as he used to call it was broken, but certainly by then the coke had well and truely kicked in. In hindsight its a wonder the band carried on so long after the Rockin all over the world album, by band I mean Rossi/Coghlan/Lancaster/Parfitt, mainly because I felt the music had changed so much overnight it seemed from Blue for you to RAOTW, and a lot of that was down to a more tame song writting approach. And I think the seeds to tension and arguments we're sown all wrapped up in that one album RAOTW, and things we're never the same again. Of course live you would never notice these things. They we're still the mighty Quo, but the true fans knew something was a miss. Of course there has been moments of brilliance over the last 40 odd years on record, but much harder to dig out.
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