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Post by roadhouse on Jun 26, 2024 11:55:23 GMT
Interesting interview from 84
Enjoy:
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Post by theprogfather on Jun 26, 2024 20:40:55 GMT
Sounds like it's copied from a tape that was playing too slow.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 26, 2024 22:14:45 GMT
Strange when you think in 1984 Francis saying how touring is becoming out of reach, as he's becoming too old to do it, and touring is taking too much out of us. Yet this was 40 years ago!!!
Just think of the amount of gigs they have racked up since 1984. More than double the amount in the 70's.
So it makes you think is the retirement idea still on?
Francis was still only 35 at the time of toying of retiring from touring with Quo in 84. Something is adrift here don't we think?
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Post by tqontq on Jun 27, 2024 0:56:29 GMT
Strange when you think in 1984 Francis saying how touring is becoming out of reach, as he's becoming too old to do it, and touring is taking too much out of us. Yet this was 40 years ago!!! Just think of the amount of gigs they have racked up since 1984. More than double the amount in the 70's. So it makes you think is the retirement idea still on? Francis was still only 35 at the time of toying of retiring from touring with Quo in 84. Something is adrift here don't we think? Yup, drugs and hating being limited to the rockin' Quo sound. Note, he alluded to the musical differences and direction a couple of times during the interview. We all know where that was from.
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Post by dennis on Jun 27, 2024 12:04:58 GMT
Maybe it wasn't the touring that was really the problem but the people he was touring with, & that all changed in the '80s
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Post by gav on Jun 27, 2024 12:29:48 GMT
He wanted out in the 70's.
Instead, he's getting out in HIS 70's.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 27, 2024 12:30:16 GMT
Strange when you think in 1984 Francis saying how touring is becoming out of reach, as he's becoming too old to do it, and touring is taking too much out of us. Yet this was 40 years ago!!! Just think of the amount of gigs they have racked up since 1984. More than double the amount in the 70's. So it makes you think is the retirement idea still on? Francis was still only 35 at the time of toying of retiring from touring with Quo in 84. Something is adrift here don't we think? Yup, drugs and hating being limited to the rockin' Quo sound. Note, he alluded to the musical differences and direction a couple of times during the interview. We all know where that was from. But if you think about it musically live very little changed post 86.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 27, 2024 12:34:35 GMT
Maybe it wasn't the touring that was really the problem but the people he was touring with, & that all changed in the '80s Well really only one person in line up change that altered things, and we all know who that was. In my opinion they didn't need to get rid of Pete Kircher, his playing was more solid than Jeff's.
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Post by theprogfather on Jun 27, 2024 14:06:49 GMT
Maybe it wasn't the touring that was really the problem but the people he was touring with, & that all changed in the '80s In my opinion they didn't need to get rid of Pete Kircher, his playing was more solid than Jeff's. I've heard 2 stories about that, one was that they just never asked him to be in the reformed line up because Rhino and Jeff were already available, the other is that he didn't wanna be in the band anymore. I really liked Pete but Jeff is technically the best drummer Quo ever had, in some respects he was too good for Quo.
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Post by 4th Chord on Jun 27, 2024 14:51:32 GMT
He wanted out in the 70's. Instead, he's getting out in HIS 70's. Sounds like a great film tagline!
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 30, 2024 2:15:07 GMT
In my opinion they didn't need to get rid of Pete Kircher, his playing was more solid than Jeff's. I've heard 2 stories about that, one was that they just never asked him to be in the reformed line up because Rhino and Jeff were already available, the other is that he didn't wanna be in the band anymore. I really liked Pete but Jeff is technically the best drummer Quo ever had, in some respects he was too good for Quo. Jeff was great don't get me wrong, but I felt somehow he added to the lightweight sound. The combination of Jeff and Rhino at the time I thought just helped the band sound more poppy. I remember seeing them live on the Ain't Complaining tour and thinking where is the oomphh, the power the band had back in 82 live for example? I'm not including the Frantic Four as that's a different period altogether. Sorry rambling again now, but the contrast for me from 84 to 88 in terms of the punchy sound they used to have, seemed gone somewhere. I know there was a hard hitting rock band in there somewhere.
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Post by backwater67 on Jul 1, 2024 11:00:33 GMT
I always felt Jeff played to fast, like been in a race with the rest of the band. It took Matt Letley to come in & steady the ship. He was definitely more solid.
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Post by roadhouse on Jul 1, 2024 14:02:53 GMT
I always felt Jeff played to fast, like been in a race with the rest of the band. It took Matt Letley to come in & steady the ship. He was definitely more solid. Yeah I totally agree. I can't believe it took 7 studio albums if you include Don't stop for the band to notice Jeff was playing too fast and lightweight. Unless that's the style they were aiming for, I'm not really sure. Matt who I have met, lovely guy really brought the beat back to a more solid sound again. Who would think a drummer could have so much influence in a band? I've witnessed it before when I seen Coghlan's Quo live, and my God his style of drumming took you back as if you were watching a Frantic Four gig.
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Post by theprogfather on Jul 1, 2024 14:07:44 GMT
All I will say is that it wasn't Jeff's decision to speed the songs up.
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Post by roadhouse on Jul 1, 2024 14:58:56 GMT
All I will say is that it wasn't Jeff's decision to speed the songs up. Possibly only Francis would decide to do that to try and shake off the old sound of Quo. But it wasn't really right for Quo in the long run. A drummer has a bigger influence on a sound than sometimes the ear can hear. I experienced this myself when I watched Coghlan's Quo live back in 2005 and when you think the other musicians have never been Quo members, but if I closed my eyes it was exactly like hearing Quo from the 70's. So I think it can sometimes be under estimated how individual musicians can influence a bands sound and style. But sometimes line up changes I'm afraid are done deliberately to change a bands sound away from something that could be stale to some other band members ears, and I think a lot of this was at play in Quo's case. Hence why they kept Jeff so long playing the way he did. Its just how individuals see it, some would think I'm talking utter pish, but I've seen it with other bands that I follow, they might have a replacement drummer due to illness or whatever, and instantly the band sounds differently. Some fans I think embrace change easier than others, I think it depends how much you let your bias take over. But some Quo fans stopped being Quo fans the minute they heard Coghlan left the band. Sometimes you only have to look at how records sell. It did seem like Quo's most successful period really was from 1972 - 1986. I say 86 because the Army album spawned 4 hit singles, so there was probably enough curious old fans to help towards that. But if you really annalise things by Ain't Complaining it was becomming more difficult to have hit singles, or showing those signs of a big drop off. And by Perfect Remedy, some fans thought it was all over. I was actually surprised at how well their shows were selling so well as the records were reflecting something more sinister. So it would suggest the bias fan's still wanted to see them live, but wasn't bothered about buying the records, suggesting only semi bias fans were left. Too many changes occurred to keep some of the fans on board.
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