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Post by Victor on Feb 8, 2024 20:43:29 GMT
Really good song, definitely Quo but not like anything else. The album has held up well since it's release. I hadn't expected to like any of it Yep. I didn't expect any good of the album beforehand since Rick wasn't there anymore...but it came out a lot better then I thought and I still like the album. It still misses Rick's guitar of course but it could have turned out a lot worse.
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Feb 9, 2024 7:35:59 GMT
It's not the same! They're phrased quite differently. LL lingers on the 7, which the Stones song doesn't. Also, I much prefer Liberty Lane to what I think Bill Wyman correctly said wasn't one of the Stones' finest hours. I have no idea what that means But the bottom line is, that little section has reminded me strongly of Let's Spend the Night Together since I first heard it. I agree, the song is nowhere hear the same anywhere else and it's not plagiarism.
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Post by charles on Feb 9, 2024 14:38:40 GMT
It's not the same! They're phrased quite differently. LL lingers on the 7, which the Stones song doesn't. Also, I much prefer Liberty Lane to what I think Bill Wyman correctly said wasn't one of the Stones' finest hours. I have no idea what that means ... Always glad to help:
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Feb 10, 2024 18:07:12 GMT
Oh no The penny has dropped and I can now hear let's spend the night together Bloody mortified has ruined it for me 😂😂👍
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Feb 10, 2024 20:57:32 GMT
Haha! yes I can bear it as well. Before that I was going to say I like Liberty Lane , still do tbf.
Original vid posted is a long long way away from the Quo gigs I used to go to though.
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Post by charles on Feb 11, 2024 6:42:19 GMT
If you like Liberty Lane, you'll like Accident Prone. Am I right?
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Post by frozenhero on Feb 11, 2024 16:46:35 GMT
It's not the same! They're phrased quite differently. LL lingers on the 7, which the Stones song doesn't. Also, I much prefer Liberty Lane to what I think Bill Wyman correctly said wasn't one of the Stones' finest hours. I have no idea what that means Then this will probably not make anything clearer for you... Anyone who can't stand music theory can skip my post. Both riffs are based on a pretty simple scale, the upper part of the mixolydian scale (the one you get when you play only white keys on the piano, starting at G). It's the 5, 6 and 7 of that scale. In the case of Liberty Lane, the underlying chord is the dominant (E), and the three notes are B, C# and D. What I meant is that there is a long D note, whereas the Stones song has a couple of short notes there instead. In "Let's Spend the Night Together" the chord is D, so the notes are A, B and C (two steps lower than in the Quo song). That D chord runs through large parts of the whole song, so it's not just a short detour like the E in "Liberty Lane" that leads back to the tonic. But what's actually interesting from a musical theory POV is that the Stones song, due to its emphasis of that seventh chord [which, unless we're in a blues, would typically be a dominant chord, i.e. a V relative to the I], also implies a different tonic elsewhere, and we finally get it in the bridge at "now I need you more than ever" (which resolves to the chord of G) - or at the end of each verse when they go "let's spend the night together now". So, both songs really do a similar thing (a riff on the 5, 6 and 7 of a mixolydian scale over a dominant seventh chord that ascends and descends, though they're not phrased the same), but it feels different to me at least - the use of it in "Liberty Lane" is quite a bit more subtle as in the case of the Stones' song, which I think always confused me exactly because I couldn't place the tonal center. You'd tend toward saying the song is in D because it starts in D and is in D a lot of the time, but it's actually in G. "Liberty Lane" is much clearer about its tonal center, the A rings loud and clear in the very first second. Given how many of the chords in the song use the A, it's almost like a pedal note - it has that "droning" quality. (Something that Quo of course have used in many older songs as well, WYW being a prime example.)Now the interpretative part of me would say that in both cases, the chords fit the lyrics really well - "Let's Spend the Night Together" is constantly on edge, depicting the lyrical ego's desire and nervousness, craving the satisfaction that's alluded to with the few times that dominant D7 chord actually resolves to the G chord. (And with that, I think I have to re-evaluate my opinion of the song, because that is pretty clever.) "Liberty Lane" on the other hand is about someone who's taken some detours but knows the game and the direction. The chord structure suggests self-assuredness. Well, that's enough music analysis for this year, I think And I hope I haven't made any major blunders, I'm a bit rusty. If you like Liberty Lane, you'll like Accident Prone. Am I right? I was actually having "Accident Prone" running through my head earlier today, curiously enough. I suppose both songs sort of occupy a similar kind of niche in the Quo discography.
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Post by mortified on Feb 12, 2024 6:12:36 GMT
I have no idea what that means Then this will probably not make anything clearer for you... Anyone who can't stand music theory can skip my post. How perceptive
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Post by roadhouse on Feb 18, 2024 17:29:43 GMT
Liberty Lane, my favourite track off the album.
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Post by quovadis on Feb 18, 2024 20:39:31 GMT
That's OK roadhouse certainly not mine but many will disagree as I like the more rocky goomh saying that I'm not so keen on the bb tbh each to there own🦆
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