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Post by freewilly on Aug 11, 2023 15:03:02 GMT
Who done the double kick drum part in Rain first and not Matt.
Just listening to Sheffield 1991 here. Noticed it...
You think you know something and everything, but really, you don't. Ashamed of myself tbh
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Post by drummer73 on Aug 11, 2023 15:29:35 GMT
Good spot, Fair enough. I always associated that with Matt too. So I'm ashamed with you (and for you!  ). Jeff gets a bad rap I think. There were many problems during his membership of the band and I'm a dyed in the wool Coghlan fanatic. But some of the best Quo gigs I ever saw were with Jeff behind the kit. They were super tight live during some of those tours. And they tried some things re: switching up the set! |
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 11, 2023 15:38:50 GMT
Well I had no idea there was a double kick drum part in Rain...  Thanks for spotting that and sharing.  |
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Post by freewilly on Aug 11, 2023 15:55:32 GMT
Good spot, Fair enough. I always associated that with Matt too. So I'm ashamed with you (and for you! ). Jeff gets a bad rap I think. There were many problems during his membership of the band and I'm a dyed in the wool Coghlan fanatic. But some of the best Quo gigs I ever saw were with Jeff behind the kit. They were super tight live during some of those tours. And they tried some things re: switching up the set! Switching up the set... Ha! The most stubborn band I've ever come across with that! But, yeah... I said in another thread, quick tempo or not, I love listening to Jeff live between 86 and 91 or 92. For me though, something went wrong after that. The entire band seemed to change. It got way too quick and the guitar sound changed. Even Rick's. It lost any edge, aggression and it seemed to be "going through the motions" from all of them |
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Post by freewilly on Aug 11, 2023 15:56:35 GMT
Well I had no idea there was a double kick drum part in Rain... Thanks for spotting that and sharing. Not originally and it flows much better without it. I always thought Matt brought it in, but it was Jeff. |
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Post by 4th Chord on Aug 11, 2023 16:01:55 GMT
Who done the double kick drum part in Rain first and not Matt. Just listening to Sheffield 1991 here. Noticed it... You think you know something and everything, but really, you don't. Ashamed of myself tbh Yeah, probably need to ban you from the forum for that mate. We appreciate all the contributions you've made, and all the best for the future. |
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Post by 4th Chord on Aug 11, 2023 16:02:41 GMT
Well I had no idea there was a double kick drum part in Rain... Thanks for spotting that and sharing. Ah, will need to ban you as well CeeGee. Sorry. |
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Post by drummer73 on Aug 11, 2023 17:03:56 GMT
Good spot, Fair enough. I always associated that with Matt too. So I'm ashamed with you (and for you! ). Jeff gets a bad rap I think. There were many problems during his membership of the band and I'm a dyed in the wool Coghlan fanatic. But some of the best Quo gigs I ever saw were with Jeff behind the kit. They were super tight live during some of those tours. And they tried some things re: switching up the set! Switching up the set... Ha! The most stubborn band I've ever come across with that! But, yeah... I said in another thread, quick tempo or not, I love listening to Jeff live between 86 and 91 or 92. For me though, something went wrong after that. The entire band seemed to change. It got way too quick and the guitar sound changed. Even Rick's. It lost any edge, aggression and it seemed to be "going through the motions" from all of them Ah, maybe its my memory playing tricks but I seem to remember them dropping Caroline as the opener for Whatever You Want and playing a fair few things from new albums and older unplayed stuff coming back like Rockin On/Come Rock with me and The Price of love? I appreciate it may well be the the rose tinted specs of my (very lost) youth though  |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 11, 2023 17:11:34 GMT
Good spot, Fair enough. I always associated that with Matt too. So I'm ashamed with you (and for you! ). Jeff gets a bad rap I think. There were many problems during his membership of the band and I'm a dyed in the wool Coghlan fanatic. But some of the best Quo gigs I ever saw were with Jeff behind the kit. They were super tight live during some of those tours. And they tried some things re: switching up the set! Switching up the set... Ha! The most stubborn band I've ever come across with that! But, yeah... I said in another thread, quick tempo or not, I love listening to Jeff live between 86 and 91 or 92. For me though, something went wrong after that. The entire band seemed to change. It got way too quick and the guitar sound changed. Even Rick's. It lost any edge, aggression and it seemed to be "going through the motions" from all of them it seems to have been once they started using 'IEMs', everything became too clean / polished sounding |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 11, 2023 17:14:44 GMT
Switching up the set... Ha! The most stubborn band I've ever come across with that! But, yeah... I said in another thread, quick tempo or not, I love listening to Jeff live between 86 and 91 or 92. For me though, something went wrong after that. The entire band seemed to change. It got way too quick and the guitar sound changed. Even Rick's. It lost any edge, aggression and it seemed to be "going through the motions" from all of them Ah, maybe its my memory playing tricks but I seem to remember them dropping Caroline as the opener for Whatever You Want and playing a fair few things from new albums and older unplayed stuff coming back like Rockin On/Come Rock with me and The Price of love? I appreciate it may well be the the rose tinted specs of my (very lost) youth though The Price Of Love was only ever once played in full live. However, you are right. During the mid 90s they started playing the likes of; Come Rock With Me / Rockin' On, Rock 'n' Roll, In My Chair, Gerdundula, Softer Ride, Mean Girl |
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Post by freewilly on Aug 11, 2023 18:35:23 GMT
Switching up the set... Ha! The most stubborn band I've ever come across with that! But, yeah... I said in another thread, quick tempo or not, I love listening to Jeff live between 86 and 91 or 92. For me though, something went wrong after that. The entire band seemed to change. It got way too quick and the guitar sound changed. Even Rick's. It lost any edge, aggression and it seemed to be "going through the motions" from all of them it seems to have been once they started using 'IEMs', everything became too clean / polished sounding There should have been a click though right? I know they started using it for Army around that time, but I can't get over Caroline from the TW tour. People who aim criticism at Jeff, I can understand it from that time. I've never heard Rick play Caroline that slow before and then, boom!! We're off to the moon! I genuinely believe Jeff was the best drummer Quo had, on a playing and technical level. He's obviously never gonna get near John's feel and groove, but it's a fair criticism I feel. In the studio, he was fine. Brit Awards Medley being an example |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 11, 2023 18:51:46 GMT
it seems to have been once they started using 'IEMs', everything became too clean / polished sounding There should have been a click though right? I know they started using it for Army around that time, but I can't get over Caroline from the TW tour. People who aim criticism at Jeff, I can understand it from that time. I've never heard Rick play Caroline that slow before and then, boom!! We're off to the moon! I genuinely believe Jeff was the best drummer Quo had, on a playing and technical level. He's obviously never gonna get near John's feel and groove, but it's a fair criticism I feel. In the studio, he was fine. Brit Awards Medley being an example They always had clicks for the likes of Army, Bridges etc. They used to be very audible in the mix, now the stage tapes practically arent even present which is why those songs sound so shit now imo. Army and Dreamin' both had your typical click track, whereas from Complaining onwards it was a tambourine sounding click track. When they started using the click for the whole set, I don't know but I'm guessing the early 2000s as someone mentions it sounding too fast some nights and too slow on other nights |
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Post by mortified on Aug 12, 2023 4:36:35 GMT
Click tracks are like influencers. In the sense that I have no idea what they are |
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Post by Rocker84 on Aug 12, 2023 7:00:12 GMT
A click track is a series of audio cues used to synchronize sound recordings, sometimes for synchronization to a moving image. The click track originated in early sound movies, where optical marks were made on the film to indicate precise timings for musical accompaniment. It can also serve a purpose similar to a metronome, as in the music industry, where it is often used during recording sessions and live performances.
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Posts: 5,861
Favourite Quo Album: Hello!
Favourite other bands.: Talking Heads, Rolling Stones, Sheryl Crow, Gary Numan, Alabama 3, ZZ Top, Paul van Dyk, Jeff Beck, Bowie, Gerry Rafferty, Band of Skulls, UFO, S.A.H.B
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Post by mortified on Aug 13, 2023 8:37:23 GMT
A click track is a series of audio cues used to synchronize sound recordings, sometimes for synchronization to a moving image. The click track originated in early sound movies, where optical marks were made on the film to indicate precise timings for musical accompaniment. It can also serve a purpose similar to a metronome, as in the music industry, where it is often used during recording sessions and live performances. As opposed to saying 1, 2, 3, 4.... Ta for the explanation though. Basically, a digital metronome I suppose. 👍 |
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). Jeff gets a bad rap I think. There were many problems during his membership of the band and I'm a dyed in the wool Coghlan fanatic. But some of the best Quo gigs I ever saw were with Jeff behind the kit. They were super tight live during some of those tours. And they tried some things re: switching up the set!
