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Post by Gaz on Oct 2, 2021 14:21:52 GMT
I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this pic? Clearly The Bombers, but their history with vocalist Ty Coates and Alan only seems to go up to 1990 according to this link.
Alan continued with The Lancaster Bombers (without Ty) up until 1997, a couple of years after he'd done two Scandinavian tours in '94 and '95, of which there is quite a lot of footage and photos, relatively speaking.
This photo of The Bombers looks to be quite a few years after '97 judging by the look of Alan (and Ty). Did they have a reunion at one point, even just a gig or two?
(Photo taken from The Bombers' Facebook page)
Also, a photo of Alan and Roy Lynes taken in a Sydney hotel Roy was playing at with Quo tribute band Quo Vadis on 8th September 2001. He looks here more like he does in the Bombers photo above.
And finally, a pic of AL with The Lancaster Bombers in Sweden, November 1994. To me, his appearance here is quite different from The Bombers photo above, so i think the Bombers one must be some sort of reunion around the turn of the century.
Just curious! Wonder if therockdoctor or Gaz or any others down under know anything about it? Maybe it is just a photo of one of the last Bombers gigs early 90's.... Sorry mate can’t offer any more either. I just saw Bombers (with John Coghlan) a few times, and I’d say most of the incarcerations of Party Boys…they were great nights especially when Joe Walsh toured with them.👍
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Post by rossiswaistcoat on Oct 3, 2021 11:56:24 GMT
Joe Walsh? Wow!
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Post by 4th Chord on Oct 4, 2021 17:32:35 GMT
MS is degenerative, sometimes with good periods then relapses, or sometimes ongoing deterioration, and really accelerates as you get older. He may have had it for years. 🙁 My cousin who is 62 has had it since he was 21. He was using tape to hold the plectrum to his fingers at this event in 2008. He clearly had much better mobility though. I also recall in that infamous interview with him around 2002/03,think it used to be on a Dutch Quo page, he first spoke about having a problem with his right hand and was unable at that time to play bass properly. If I recall correctly, he put it down to stress. Whether he knew back then it was MS, I don't know.. But in hindsight, it would appear it was a battle that lasted the most part of 2 decades, getting progressively worse towards the end. He clearly didn't want any sympathy, any fuss, and just got on with it privately. Fair play to him. RIP Nuff. There was a later story of a 'bad reaction to hair dye' as well. Anyway, no matter, he battled on and like you say, no-one else's business but him and his family, and he made the reunion tours very special for the fans with that voice undiminished.
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Post by davec on Oct 28, 2021 0:48:30 GMT
 I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this pic? Clearly The Bombers, but their history with vocalist Ty Coates and Alan only seems to go up to 1990 according to this link. Alan continued with The Lancaster Bombers (without Ty) up until 1997, a couple of years after he'd done two Scandinavian tours in '94 and '95, of which there is quite a lot of footage and photos, relatively speaking.
This photo of The Bombers looks to be quite a few years after '97 judging by the look of Alan (and Ty). Did they have a reunion at one point, even just a gig or two? (Photo taken from The Bombers' Facebook page) Also, a photo of Alan and Roy Lynes taken in a Sydney hotel Roy was playing at with Quo tribute band Quo Vadis on 8th September 2001. He looks here more like he does in the Bombers photo above. And finally, a pic of AL with The Lancaster Bombers in Sweden, November 1994. To me, his appearance here is quite different from The Bombers photo above, so i think the Bombers one must be some sort of reunion around the turn of the century. Just curious! Wonder if therockdoctor or Gaz or any others down under know anything about it? Maybe it is just a photo of one of the last Bombers gigs early 90's.... Pic of Alan & Roy takes me back. 'twas there that Alan signed a photo I had taken of him in the 1975. He looked at it for a while and chuckled at the head down, hair dangling pose. It's in this thread about Nuff's illness. Dale discussed his diagnosis at this gig. (That's something I've not spoken about in 20 years!) 
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Post by gav on Oct 28, 2021 9:51:55 GMT
Cheers for posting davec!
I did a bit of Bombers detective work and it turns out the photo i was wondering about, plus a couple of others, were taken at The Bridge Hotel, Rozelle, Sydney - 12th October 1990. Taken from The Bombers' Facebook page, here they are:

And there were also a couple more from the Sydney Cove Tavern - 7th April 1989, Bombers again:
Apparently John Coghlan was still with the band in these photos, but you can't really see him!
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Post by uwe on Nov 24, 2021 21:46:19 GMT
Whenever I read Alan's own statements about his health status, it sounded like wholehearted denial to me. When I saw him on the Frantic Four reunion tours at Wembley and in Stuttgart (where he couldn't complete the concert, with roadies supporting him, his bass playing stuttering on and off and a worried Francis taking over his lead vocals in Bye Bye Johnny) he looked, played and moved every bit like someone with an MS condition, an already severe one. Maybe the most athletic, muscular and "manly" Status Quo member could not admit to himself how frail and feeble he had become. Or maybe in his despair, he turned to snake oil merchants telling him about miracle cures and alleged " it's not really MS"-causes. Clutching for straws - and who would blame him. Around the reunion time, I remember Alan making light of his condition in a band interview and you could see Francis biting his lip. With his usual cruelty in observing things with himself or others, if he had been afflicted with MS himself, he would have probably quipped something along the lines of " I have MS, it's incurable, progressive and eventually fatal, so buy my records while I can still make them, I have many children!" To this day, I believe the reunion might have played out differently if it hadn't been for Alan's health. Francis did not want to be responsible for Alan dying on the road (as Rick did, at least for a couple of minutes) and he - rightfully so - doubted that Alan, try as he might, could sustain performing at a level that would give Francis professional reassurance. That of course is Rossi too: " We're running a business, you know." The reunion gigs warmed my heart, but the bass player on stage - Alan's vocals were fine on both tours - was only a shadow of his once propulsive, " always-pushing-slightly-ahead-of the-beat"-throbbing bass playing. If you compare Alan's reunion era bass playing energy with Rhino's, it's like comparing a battery on the verge of running empty to a nuclear power plant in full operation. And I'm writing this as a great fan of Alan's idiosyncratic bass playing style and force in his heyday. No one played root note with an intensity like him, but he played a lot more than just root notes. On a lighter note, out of respect and love for the great man, I finally got hold of the Party Boys and the Bombers albums as CDs only recently (I only had that 90ies compilation "Life After Quo" until now). And his bass playing drew smiles on my face on both releases. I would love to see a boxed set compiling his songs - both with and outside of Quo. They could call it " (Un)Broken Man" (to this day one of my favorite songs of his). Isn't there such a thing as crowd funding? A couple of years ago, they did boxed sets for each individual member of Crosby, Stills & Nash showcasing their respective songs - along with outtakes, demos, never released stuff. How great would it be to have that for Quo with a Rossi, a Parfitt and a Lancaster box? There would be enough material to make each box high quality. And of course, if you put all three beside each other, the emblazoned pictures of Francis, Rick and Alan headbanging would form the classic "Quo Row" - my juvenile collector's heart would rejoice!
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Post by tqontq on Nov 29, 2021 11:00:20 GMT
Whenever I read Alan's own statements about his health status, it sounded like wholehearted denial to me. When I saw him on the Frantic Four reunion tours at Wembley and in Stuttgart (where he couldn't complete the concert, with roadies supporting him, his bass playing stuttering on and off and a worried Francis taking over his lead vocals in Bye Bye Johnny) he looked, played and moved every bit like someone with an MS condition, an already severe one. Maybe the most athletic, muscular and "manly" Status Quo member could not admit to himself how frail and feeble he had become. Or maybe in his despair, he turned to snake oil merchants telling him about miracle cures and alleged " it's not really MS"-causes. Clutching for straws - and who would blame him. Around the reunion time, I remember Alan making light of his condition in a band interview and you could see Francis biting his lip. With his usual cruelty in observing things with himself or others, if he had been afflicted with MS himself, he would have probably quipped something along the lines of " I have MS, it's incurable, progressive and eventually fatal, so buy my records while I can still make them, I have many children!" To this day, I believe the reunion might have played out differently if it hadn't been for Alan's health. Francis did not want to be responsible for Alan dying on the road (as Rick did, at least for a couple of minutes) and he - rightfully so - doubted that Alan, try as he might, could sustain performing at a level that would give Francis professional reassurance. That of course is Rossi too: " We're running a business, you know." Never a truer word was said. I think most of us wanted to believe he was fine and just a bit weak for whatever reason. As fans, we also didn't want to believe the MS rumours and without affirmation from the man himself we lived in hope that there would be another tour and, perhaps, an album. Francis, for all his faults, was ultimately correct to knock it on the head. His heart may not have been in it, but it was fortuitous not to promise something they could no longer deliver due to the frailty of Alan. He must have panicked each and every night they went on stage. We lapped it all up ignorant of reality. They were two incredible tours and I will relish it for the rest of my days but it couldn't go on ... and it pains me to admit that, but Rossi was right. Life is made of memories and we certainly have plenty of them!
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Post by gav on Nov 29, 2021 11:58:33 GMT
I think it would be more a case of, in the light of returning to stand in front of the Quo Army after nearly 30 years, not wanting to appear any weaker and more ill than he actually felt. I think admitting to the fans what was happening to him would have weakened his own spirit, and possibly pained and embarrassed him. For what it's worth, i think he did the right thing for himself, and he preserved his own strength and reputation as much as he possibly could - in fact he went above and beyond, so delighted to be back as he was. He showed more strength than he perhaps had, and that is how he wanted to be remembered - strong - and that is how we WILL remember him. If he had done any less, maybe that enduring memory of his strength wouldn't be such a thing. Also, i believe it has been mentioned maybe only once in another thread, there were other significant health complications with him. But with hindsight, i am sure the Quo reunions were even more significant for him and his family than we can perhaps imagine.
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Post by dennis on Nov 29, 2021 12:36:22 GMT
It's just such a shame that it took them so long to get 'round to it - imagine what the possibilities may have been if it had happened sooner, even 10 years or so
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Post by therockdoctor on Dec 9, 2021 10:39:40 GMT
I don't have much to add on this topic, Gav. I will be doing more research in this area over the coming weeks, though, for a lengthy piece I've been asked to write about Alan and I'll use this as an excuse to go through a heap of clippings I was given related to Alan, The Party Boys and The Bombers. Please make sure that we on this message board now where to find the article - I, for one, would be very interested and I know a chum of mine in Aus would also be interested. As you might have seen by now, my long article about Alan forms the next edition of the FTMO fan club magazine. It's a long piece covering both his time with Quo and his many contributions to the music industry here in Australia after Quo. I've included a lot of photos of rare clippings from a large collection of Quo scrapbooks I acquired from an Australian fan some years ago.
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Post by matt on Dec 10, 2021 9:24:11 GMT
I agree though to be honest I never held it against Francis for knocking the FF on the head. He was right all along and we all got one (2) chances to say a proper goodbye and let Alan and Spid know how much we appreciated them.
It does highlight though how a little information and strong emotion can be a bad thing. Francis was absolutely pilloried for ending the FF. and people assumed it was one thing and another. Unfairly.
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