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Post by railroad007 on Jun 1, 2021 13:25:11 GMT
Couple of my mates said the same sort of thing about Quo. Now and again the music would cry out for a Ritchie Blackmore type of solo but it didn't happen, Rain being one.
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Jun 1, 2021 13:32:01 GMT
Classic rock? pfft! What is classic rock? It is the sheer variety that keeps me listening to Quo. From the snippets of Nanana in Dog of 2 head and onwards. I can remember my far off school days when we were asked to compare and contrast various poets/ authors/ composers. Well compare and contrast these:- A year, All the reasons with Paper Plane.........................................Piledriver Claudie with Roll over Lay Down...............................Hello Fine Fine Fine with Break the Rules...................................Quo Broken Man with Down Down........................................On the Level If Quo prove anything, love 'em or loathe 'em, it's that they DO NOT always sound the same. And never have Otherwise, what would us sad old Quo fans ever disagree about? Everything needs a label these days for marketing. Or we're told it does. Those in control of such things firmly believe it so we have it thrust upon us. So we now have 'classic rock'. And who knew there would be a 'dad rock'? And how many 'metal' handles are there? And I don't mean on a chest of drawers
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Post by freewilly on Jun 1, 2021 13:38:19 GMT
Media played a massive part in it.
Most manipulative entity in the world. I've read articles from the 70s and 80s about how wrong it was to like ABBA. It's wrong to like one of the best bands ever? Do me a fucking favour...
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Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Jun 1, 2021 18:25:17 GMT
"...Wandering around school with Close To The Edge or Foxtrot or Pictures At An Exhibition under your arm seemed to give many a sense of superiority.." I remember buying a 2nd hand LP copy of [wait for it...!] 'Tales from Topographic Oceans' [feckin' brilliant cover art!! ] and playing it while my best mate was in our house. He was a total nut-job for Maiden and TFTO went 'pfffft'... over his head - I remember thinking to myself 'fcuk, there goes the old street cred for me (again!)" The great thing was tho' it didn't matter to him, or me - we just accepted it [and played in a band together not too long after that too] As has been said a few times here - we all [well, many of us] develop and add to our musical tastes along the way - to be fair, some don't, they stick rigidly to what first floated their boat - and that's ok too👍
Btw, add 'Thick As a Brick' to your sense of superiority list too!!
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Post by unspokenwords on Jun 1, 2021 19:16:56 GMT
Classic Quo (ie 1970/72-1976) was a very short period but its reputation was ruined in the eyes of many other fans of 'rock' music thereafter by the band.
They could not warm to the classic period because of what came after. I personally know many 'cool' rock fans who liked the band in this era but quickly dropped them and did not look back as they moved on with punk and new wave, David Bowie and others and would not admit this now. Some like John Lydon however still acknowledge the band.
The band from 1976 was in a hurry to be pop and commercial, to have an American sound to break America, throw of its 'old men in boys clothes' persona. In the process unfortunately it did not have the talent to be the Eagles or Abba and became a novelty act and joke whilst still trying to associate itself with the rock audience, at least live (and milking its classic period back catalogue to do this whilst ignoring its new 'product' which simply did not stand up.) And of course the band ceased to be Status Quo due to line up changes, but carrying on as if it was seriously damaged the view of many towards the classic period. They were in reality two completely different bands.
in reality the band became a Jive Bunny style act that went from one low to another. Not only did other rock fans not like the classic period because of this but their own fans started to seriously doubt them.
It is a real wonder they retained any fans at all and that a bunch of old codgers and grannies are still discussing this over 20 years later on the 'internet'!
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 1, 2021 20:26:36 GMT
We all know Quo destroyed their own legacy
Let me ask my original question in a better way, so really this for those of you were teens in the 70's
What reasons did other rock fans have for not liking Quo?
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Jun 2, 2021 5:50:53 GMT
We all know Quo destroyed their own legacy Let me ask my original question in a better way, so really this for those of you were teens in the 70's What reasons did other rock fans have for not liking Quo? As already mentioned, simplicity was the overriding factor, which in itself is a form of snobbery; that the music had to be complex to be good. The British blues boom had gone and been replaced by many artists wanting to push the envelope with concept albums containing 'suites' and 'movements'. But Quo weren't on their own here. You wouldn't find a King Crimson nut extoling the virtues of Black Sabbath or Budgie. But you would find a Sabbath fan who might also be quite keen on Quo. But it wasn't all prog either. It was just the main thing in vogue. Rock was expanding it's horizons, much of it very pretentiously encouraged by a 'superior' music media. However, there were never raging debates in the classroom. You tended to just like what you liked. Classic Quo, if you want to call them that, were part of an era where, looking back, the sheer variety of styles within pop and rock music meant you had a staggering amount of choice and could expand your own horizons. There are even one or two comments on here which maintain that snobbery. Quo were slagged off not just for being what they were then but also for what they are now. Nothing really changes.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 2, 2021 8:54:03 GMT
I remember a 'gig' I went to in the era - it was sixth form boys playing a few cover versions at their school and it was so exciting! That is when I first heard Whisky in the Jar and Smoke on the Water. Other friends at that time liked ACDC. No-one liked Quo though they were happy to do the dance at the youth club disco. We didn't all sit down when they played Quo. I have always hated pretension and snobbery and that is part of my love for Quo. They were down to earth and very funny, in a South London way that I'd grown up with. They didn't want to be cool. And their lyrics were not deep and meaningful either, whether they wrote them or not. Francis has often talked about their struggle with lyrics or taken the piss out of RAOTW. Instead, they wrote a lot about loneliness in various forms rather than love or existential angst. Its still not cool even now to admit to being lonely.
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Post by mortified on Jun 2, 2021 9:32:52 GMT
I remember a 'gig' I went to in the era - it was sixth form boys playing a few cover versions at their school and it was so exciting! That is when I first heard Whisky in the Jar and Smoke on the Water. Other friends at that time liked ACDC. No-one liked Quo though they were happy to do the dance at the youth club disco. We didn't all sit down when they played Quo. I have always hated pretension and snobbery and that is part of my love for Quo. They were down to earth and very funny, in a South London way that I'd grown up with. They didn't want to be cool. And their lyrics were not deep and meaningful either, whether they wrote them or not. Francis has often talked about their struggle with lyrics or taken the piss out of RAOTW. Instead, they wrote a lot about loneliness in various forms rather than love or existential angst. Its still not cool even now to admit to being lonely. To be fair and to provide some balance, I was just as capable of musical snobbery back then as anyone else. I was a teenager. Everything was black and white! And I don't just mean some of the telly While prog fans looked down on Quo, I looked down on all manner of stuff. Anything remotely 'novelty' like Benny Hill or Clive Dunn or anything I considered 'pop' got it tight while my mum and dad probably just rolled their eyes I detested reggae and soul at the time as well. However, I grew up. As you do. And your focus of appreciation widens. I've grown to really like reggae and ska. I could never expand it wide enough to include Yes or Gentle Giant though. Just the way things are
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 2, 2021 9:35:49 GMT
you got me mortified - I would have looked down on Benny Hill too.
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Post by mortified on Jun 2, 2021 9:38:42 GMT
you got me mortified - I would have looked down on Benny Hill too. Was that the trees a-rustlin' or the 'inges of the gate? Or Ernie's ghostly gold-tops rattlin' in their crate? They won't forget Ernie Bl00dy hell, I still remember the lyrics! Well, it was no.1 for about a year. But I'm not proud of myself And we say music now just isn't like it was back then
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 2, 2021 10:32:13 GMT
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 2, 2021 10:41:16 GMT
I tried a bit. It’s not what I listen to much but can see the influence on Primus. The vocals are seemingly a required taste. The musicality is of a high standard.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 2, 2021 10:43:23 GMT
you got me mortified - I would have looked down on Benny Hill too. Was that the trees a-rustlin' or the 'inges of the gate? Or Ernie's ghostly gold-tops rattlin' in their crate? They won't forget Ernie Bl00dy hell, I still remember the lyrics! Well, it was no.1 for about a year. But I'm not proud of myself And we say music now just isn't like it was back then I have tried Yes on a few occasions. There’s just something about the vocals I don’t connect with. I do really enjoy going to Rick Wakeman’s piano recitals. Great playing and he’s a great story teller.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 2, 2021 10:44:57 GMT
Just an aside but rock doesn’t have as many genres or sub genres as metal.
The rabbit hole is very deep these days with metal.
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