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Post by sqcollector on Sept 30, 2019 23:28:33 GMT
Naughty Girl stopped being Naughty Girl around January 1986 (I think, I'll have to double check), and then they must have came to the decision as a band to call it Dreamin', or it was the management / record labels decision. It wont be any different to what we got... probably just a rough mix / early mix. Fair enough. Wasn't aware of this. If these are online, I would enjoy to give them a listening. If anyone ends up doing so, I'll wait for their review. Back to the running order: I didn't notice immediately, but the songs that open and close the sides are the same. It's curious. However, with the CD format in mind, I much prefer Rollin' Home to open the album and Overdose to close it. I just think both songs are great at their respective job. I don't think Dreaming is a good opener, even for a side.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 30, 2019 23:33:48 GMT
Naughty Girl stopped being Naughty Girl around January 1986 (I think, I'll have to double check), and then they must have came to the decision as a band to call it Dreamin', or it was the management / record labels decision. It wont be any different to what we got... probably just a rough mix / early mix. Fair enough. Wasn't aware of this. If these are online, I would enjoy to give them a listening. If anyone ends up doing so, I'll wait for their review. Back to the running order: I didn't notice immediately, but the songs that open and close the sides are the same. It's curious. However, with the CD format in mind, I much prefer Rollin' Home to open the album and Overdose to close it. I just think both songs are great at their respective job. I don't think Dreaming is a good opener, even for a side. The original CD Tracklisting for the Ain't Complaining album is massively different to the Vinyl tracklisting which was very odd when I came across it. I'll have to find the performance of WYP, but the early mix of Marguerita Time was used on the Cannon & Ball show, where the Electric Guitars were more present in the mix, along with different synths and possibly a different bassline... not heard it in a while
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Post by sqcollector on Oct 1, 2019 0:04:40 GMT
The original CD Tracklisting for the Ain't Complaining album is massively different to the Vinyl tracklisting which was very odd when I came across it. Yeah, the demos from that time are something that would also be interesting to listen to. I remember seeing somewhere Ain't Complaining (the song) had a longer drum intro. Aaah! Now that you mention it the Cannon & Ball show, I've come across it! I remember noticing the string synth. Here it is:
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Post by blagult on Oct 1, 2019 12:19:31 GMT
I'm aware of all that. What I was thinking was that if that sampler contains an early mix of Dreaming, and Dreaming was only Dreaming after Naughty Girl was cancelled; does that mean that, before Dreaming was that not so different version of Naughty Girl, nor the single mix, was it yet another mix? A more different one than Naughty Girl was? Not sure if I'm making myself clear xD Perhaps it had a longer interlude or something. Naughty Girl stopped being Naughty Girl around January 1986 (I think, I'll have to double check), and then they must have came to the decision as a band to call it Dreamin', or it was the management / record labels decision. It wont be any different to what we got... probably just a rough mix / early mix. An early mix of RAOTW was played on the Radio before it was officially released as a single as someone mentioned it many moons ago on an old forum. Theres also a playback performance of WYP somewhere that sounds completely different to the final mix, as well as a performance of Marguerita Time. I'd have to get a hold of the promo sampler to know exactly what they sound like however. Cheers Yep RAOTW was played on the John Peel show as an exclusive weeks before its release. The Single was delayed due to the delay in the Free poster which was to accompany the ltd Ed pic sleeve Single. It didn’t materialise until a couple of months after the single release. You had to write with a SAE to Quarry productions.to get it which I did. The mix John Peel played had Ricks rhythm Guitar way more upfront. I did tape it from the show at the time on an old cassette player but sAdly my tape no longer exists. Wish it did.
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Post by makellysgreasydog on Oct 1, 2019 12:40:17 GMT
...the early mix of Marguerita Time was used on the Cannon & Ball show, where the Electric Guitars were more present in the mix, along with different synths and possibly a different bassline... not heard it in a while Definitely a different bassline - I'd always assumed that the bassline had been re-recorded to remove Alan due to the legal shenanigans going on at the time, so who is playing bass - Andy, perhaps?
Drums are different too - less reverb on the snare, toms have been emphasized more, some additional ride cymbal - the mystery deepens!
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Post by gav on Oct 1, 2019 16:42:49 GMT
Definitely a different bassline - I'd always assumed that the bassline had been re-recorded to remove Alan due to the legal shenanigans going on at the time, so who is playing bass - Andy, perhaps?
Drums are different too - less reverb on the snare, toms have been emphasized more, some additional ride cymbal - the mystery deepens! What legal shenanigans were going on in '83?
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Post by Quoincidence on Oct 1, 2019 17:05:11 GMT
Definitely a different bassline - I'd always assumed that the bassline had been re-recorded to remove Alan due to the legal shenanigans going on at the time, so who is playing bass - Andy, perhaps?
Drums are different too - less reverb on the snare, toms have been emphasized more, some additional ride cymbal - the mystery deepens! The Cannon and Ball performance was before the album was released, i think, so it'll just be an early mix / alt take... the legal issues weren't until late '85 /'86
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Oct 4, 2019 11:21:01 GMT
Definitely a different bassline - I'd always assumed that the bassline had been re-recorded to remove Alan due to the legal shenanigans going on at the time, so who is playing bass - Andy, perhaps?
Drums are different too - less reverb on the snare, toms have been emphasized more, some additional ride cymbal - the mystery deepens! The Cannon and Ball performance was before the album was released, i think, so it'll just be an early mix / alt take... the legal issues weren't until late '85 /'86 Back to Back was released on 25th November and Marguerita Time (3rd single) was released a week later. If it is a different mix of MT, is it not more likely that it is a 'single' mix rather than an early mix? Or does the mix used on Cannon and Ball sound different to the single that was released?
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Post by Quoincidence on Oct 4, 2019 16:27:50 GMT
The Cannon and Ball performance was before the album was released, i think, so it'll just be an early mix / alt take... the legal issues weren't until late '85 /'86 Back to Back was released on 25th November and Marguerita Time (3rd single) was released a week later. If it is a different mix of MT, is it not more likely that it is a 'single' mix rather than an early mix? Or does the mix used on Cannon and Ball sound different to the single that was released? mix is different to the single, and I think the single was released prior to them appearing on the show, so it's odd that they had a new mix.
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Post by gav on Oct 4, 2019 16:32:29 GMT
Back to Back was released on 25th November and Marguerita Time (3rd single) was released a week later. If it is a different mix of MT, is it not more likely that it is a 'single' mix rather than an early mix? Or does the mix used on Cannon and Ball sound different to the single that was released? mix is different to the single, and I think the single was released prior to them appearing on the show, so it's odd that they had a new mix. Maybe there was a mix up somewhere. Got my coat.
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