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Post by cammythemortonfan on Jun 19, 2019 20:27:49 GMT
On Facebook the other day Patty said that Rick’s favourite Quo drummer was Matt and that he was gutted when he left.
Now , given Rick’s love of the recent Frantic four tours, I’d have bet it was Spud.
Anyone else surprised by this ?
Or is it maybe an indirect indication that Matt is a better drummer and as a fellow musician it’s easier to play with Matt? ( I don’t know this, not being a musician- I’m just opening up a discussion)
Any thoughts?
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 19, 2019 21:03:23 GMT
I would take anything she says with a large pinch of salt.
For Rick maybe he did maybe he didn’t. His quotes were often far from reliable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 22:13:24 GMT
As paradiseflats says you can't take anything Miss Beedon says as true, her mouth has a habit of opening when self publicity is on offer. As far as accuracy goes Matt is the best post John drummer but when it comes to that definitive Quo sound only John had it, you could see Rick revelled in it on the first reunion tour.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jun 19, 2019 22:57:00 GMT
Everything in context. Haven't seen the quote but at what point in time did Rick say all this and had he been thinking in terms of post Frantic Four? I get it, as for me, Quo had a bit of a genuine revival when Matt joined. Though some of that feeling also relates to Bob Young returning to the fold.
As bluehighway and paradiseflats have said, you possibly do have to tread carefully with ex wives telling tales out of school but some of what I've read in Mrs P 's book actually did ring a bell and did seem plausible and close to the truth, based on what I know about Rick and the band. I dare say some things may have been embellished by his ex in the book, possibly out of spite, but I think Rick's and even Francis's accounts should also be treated with a certain amount of caution.
With Rick, he became the person who would love something at first and be very enthusiastic only to then completely dismiss the same thing later on. A case in point being when 'If You Can't Stand Heat' came out. Rick was enjoying the publicity as usual and talking to the press and saying it was their best album to date and that credit should also go to Pip W as he had brought out the best in the band. Fast forward a number of years and Rick was pretty much saying that Pip had been all wrong for the band etc etc.
I can laugh about it all now but used take things too seriously in the past where Quo were concerned.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jun 19, 2019 23:02:37 GMT
"A case in point being when 'If You Can't Stand Heat' came out. Rick was enjoying the publicity as usual and talking to the press and saying it was their best album to date and that credit should also go to Pip W as he had brought out the best in the band. Fast forward a number of years and Rick was pretty much saying that Pip had been all wrong for the band etc etc" That's what bands generally do when they release a new album... you won't shift sales if you're going to say the album is shite or not up to par with the past release No matter what a band personally think of the album, they HAVE to say it's the best thing they have done to date to get fans buying it and if they didn't then the record label wouldn't be best pleased
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jun 19, 2019 23:05:40 GMT
"A case in point being when 'If You Can't Stand Heat' came out. Rick was enjoying the publicity as usual and talking to the press and saying it was their best album to date and that credit should also go to Pip W as he had brought out the best in the band. Fast forward a number of years and Rick was pretty much saying that Pip had been all wrong for the band etc etc" That's what bands generally do when they release a new album... you won't shift sales if you're going to say the album is shite or not up to par with the past release No matter what a band personally think of the album, they HAVE to say it's the best thing they have done to date to get fans buying it and if they didn't then the record label wouldn't be best pleased I understand that, but it had clearly been a feature of Rick's personality much more than the others in the band. Just something I have observed through the decades. Thinking about it now and I thought it was funny how Rick had been the catalyst for the 'all aboard the HMS Ark Royal' for the Jam Side Down campaign, only for him to rubbish it later on, saying it had been a mistake and they shouldn't have done it. What?
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Post by deardron on Jun 19, 2019 23:20:41 GMT
As far as accuracy goes Matt is the best post John drummer but when it comes to that definitive Quo sound only John had it, you could see Rick revelled in it on the first reunion tour. Matt is the best post-Jeff - pre-Leon drummer. Not a patch on Jeff at least.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jun 19, 2019 23:37:15 GMT
That's what bands generally do when they release a new album... you won't shift sales if you're going to say the album is shite or not up to par with the past release No matter what a band personally think of the album, they HAVE to say it's the best thing they have done to date to get fans buying it and if they didn't then the record label wouldn't be best pleased I understand that, but it had clearly been a feature of Rick's personality much more than the others in the band. Just something I have observed through the decades. Thinking about it now and I thought it was funny how Rick had been the catalyst for the 'all aboard the HMS Ark Royal' for the Jam Side Down campaign, only for him to rubbish it later on, saying it had been a mistake and they shouldn't have done it. What? When did he say that?
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jun 19, 2019 23:52:58 GMT
I understand that, but it had clearly been a feature of Rick's personality much more than the others in the band. Just something I have observed through the decades. Thinking about it now and I thought it was funny how Rick had been the catalyst for the 'all aboard the HMS Ark Royal' for the Jam Side Down campaign, only for him to rubbish it later on, saying it had been a mistake and they shouldn't have done it. What? When did he say that? In an interview somewhere, but it stuck in my mind (hopefully not fake news!) as I had thought that the band were generally 'well pleased' with how that had turned out. Something you could imagine Francis throwing doubt upon after the event in a way but with it being arranged through Rick's connections, it seemed an odd and churlish reaction from Rick, a few years down the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 0:11:35 GMT
As far as accuracy goes Matt is the best post John drummer but when it comes to that definitive Quo sound only John had it, you could see Rick revelled in it on the first reunion tour. Matt is the best post-Jeff - pre-Leon drummer. Not a patch on Jeff at least. Each to their own. Personally I thought Jeff Rich was terrible on record and even worse live, wrong style, that shocking galloping tempo he seemed to bring to everything. Matt was a return to a more metronomic Pete Kircher style and to me changed the whole live dynamic for the better. Leon I had classed as Mr Anonymous, lacking much individual style but having seen him a couple of times this year he really seems to have had something of a renaissance, possibly down to recording new material that he's the original drummer for. Anyway the drum sound was much rockier than in previous years.
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Post by Triggsy on Jun 21, 2019 7:40:10 GMT
Thought Matt Letley was superb for Quo at the time, still do
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 21, 2019 8:37:34 GMT
Thought Matt Letley was superb for Quo at the time, still do Agree he was excellent. Well apart from the drum solo
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Post by Dark on Jun 21, 2019 9:20:30 GMT
I thought Matt was a real let down for Quo. They maybe got tempo under better control with him at the helm, but his pittar patter style of hitting the drums so softly really seemed to rob the band of any power. I think it was one of the factors in making the Frantic Four gigs vastly superior to what had been happening immediately prior to them, having a powerful drummer in Coghlan was such a step up.
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Post by whoaskedyou on Jun 21, 2019 10:32:04 GMT
Favourite drummer? Or best drummer? Rick might have meant he was gutted when Matt left because he was a good mate...always came across as a nice fellow... a good solid bloke, somebody every team needs et etc...I would imagine touring can be a drag when not on stage..so great to have easy going people around.
Probably not always a bundle of fun with Mr Rossi on the bus.
Just a thought.
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Post by Gaz on Jun 21, 2019 13:24:25 GMT
I reckon Matt got ‘IT’ about Quo on the Quid Pro Quo album. The rhythm was back.
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