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Post by 4th Chord on Nov 8, 2018 21:25:53 GMT
Let’s be brutally frank about this. I was perusing the other board (yes, I look at it) and some members are losing their shit over the fact Quo are support to Skynyrd.
Francis Rossi has been doing this a very, very long time now. Endless touring, doing the light entertainment chat show circuit, refusing to even consider a set list shake up. People aren’t daft. Gigs are expensive, and I imagine the majority are well aware of Rick’s sad passing. There’s no way Quo could go on selling out arenas, or even half filling them, on their own anymore. That time is gone and is never coming back.
Rock fans know Lynyrd Skynyrd. When was the last time they played the UK? 1992? This is their final tour, the last chance to ever see them and hear those songs played by an original and a couple of legacy members. That is why they are the headline act.
The days of Quo being even an arena draw are past. With the great Rick Parfitt gone, all that’s left now is Francis, Andy and Rhino waiting to be told where the next gig is that management have booked for them. No more surprises, no last going out with a bang.
In the words of Ian Faith “I just think that their appeal is becoming more selective”.
And that makes me sad.
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Post by Detroit on Nov 8, 2018 21:28:30 GMT
He joined them in 1971 as 'second drummer', according to the dubious source that is Wikipedia. Interestingly it does say he grew up with the band. If you have a look at the cover of 'Skynyrd's First and Last' he's in the group photo! [Aaaaah - Blackfoot, now there's a rock band! (well, at least up to 'Highway Song Live')]
This one rocks
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Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Nov 8, 2018 23:48:28 GMT
If you have a look at the cover of 'Skynyrd's First and Last' he's in the group photo! [Aaaaah - Blackfoot, now there's a rock band! (well, at least up to 'Highway Song Live')]
This one rocks Yep - proper! 'Highway Song Live' is one of the definitive Live albums [imho - of course ]
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Post by charles on Nov 9, 2018 1:16:15 GMT
Good morning, you all!
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gav
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Post by gav on Nov 9, 2018 10:45:27 GMT
Let’s be brutally frank about this. I was perusing the other board (yes, I look at it) and some members are losing their shit over the fact Quo are support to Skynyrd. Francis Rossi has been doing this a very, very long time now. Endless touring, doing the light entertainment chat show circuit, refusing to even consider a set list shake up. People aren’t daft. Gigs are expensive, and I imagine the majority are well aware of Rick’s sad passing. There’s no way Quo could go on selling out arenas, or even half filling them, on their own anymore. That time is gone and is never coming back. Rock fans know Lynyrd Skynyrd. When was the last time they played the UK? 1992? This is their final tour, the last chance to ever see them and hear those songs played by an original and a couple of legacy members. That is why they are the headline act. The days of Quo being even an arena draw are past. With the great Rick Parfitt gone, all that’s left now is Francis, Andy and Rhino waiting to be told where the next gig is that management have booked for them. No more surprises, no last going out with a bang. In the words of Ian Faith “I just think that their appeal is becoming more selective”. And that makes me sad. Yep, good points.
But i think they're appeal is as broad as it has been for nearly 40 years. It's just become more obvious what with the metal/rock festivals back to back with retro pop fests. And more noticeable cos they're doing less in general.
Personally think this Skynyrd 'tour' is a great match as far as the audience is concerned, and that's what matters. Most of both sets of fans will love both bands' sets i'm sure.
A good ticket, but after much thought, i'm gonna pass. Had one or two more of the original Skynyrd been there, i'd have gone. Or had Rick been there, i'd definitely have gone. Not shelling out for a poor seat and just to tick something off on the bucket list.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 9, 2018 17:26:54 GMT
gav with you on that. Feels like a Skynrd bucket list thing. Hope anyone from here that goes has a great time. £65 or £75, plus fees, is a lot for a ticket. I think it's rational rather than cynical to question whether this is the last UK chance to see Skynyrd. The tour could last 4 years?! That said, I've paid £75 for Ozzy / Priest....but that ticked two of my boxes! Quite sad now. Wanted to link to Andy's "tick my box", but I couldn't find it anywhere!
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Post by gav on Nov 9, 2018 18:05:03 GMT
gav with you on that. Feels like a Skynrd bucket list thing. Hope anyone from here that goes has a great time. £65 or £75, plus fees, is a lot for a ticket. I think it's rational rather than cynical to question whether this is the last UK chance to see Skynyrd. The tour could last 4 years?! That said, I've paid £75 for Ozzy / Priest....but that ticked two of my boxes! Quite sad now. Wanted to link to Andy's "tick my box", but I couldn't find it anywhere! I'd like to see Gary Rossington play, one of my favourite guitarists, but he's completely overshadowed by the antics of Rickey Medlocke and that Sparky fella. I reckon it'll be Gary's last 'tour', but i don't think the tribute will end when he does.
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Post by sincity on Nov 11, 2018 19:29:56 GMT
We gonna have a cheeky couple of days in Berlin - Blackberry Smoke support over there
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Post by paradiseflats on Nov 11, 2018 20:51:19 GMT
Let’s be brutally frank about this. I was perusing the other board (yes, I look at it) and some members are losing their shit over the fact Quo are support to Skynyrd. Francis Rossi has been doing this a very, very long time now. Endless touring, doing the light entertainment chat show circuit, refusing to even consider a set list shake up. People aren’t daft. Gigs are expensive, and I imagine the majority are well aware of Rick’s sad passing. There’s no way Quo could go on selling out arenas, or even half filling them, on their own anymore. That time is gone and is never coming back. Rock fans know Lynyrd Skynyrd. When was the last time they played the UK? 1992? This is their final tour, the last chance to ever see them and hear those songs played by an original and a couple of legacy members. That is why they are the headline act. The days of Quo being even an arena draw are past. With the great Rick Parfitt gone, all that’s left now is Francis, Andy and Rhino waiting to be told where the next gig is that management have booked for them. No more surprises, no last going out with a bang. In the words of Ian Faith “I just think that their appeal is becoming more selective”. And that makes me sad. Skynyrd I’ve seen them twice in the last ten years. Once at Gateshead the other at Glasgow Armadillo. Is that what it’s called. Quite a leap to arenas so prob need Status Quo to shift tickets.
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 11, 2018 21:49:23 GMT
Interesting thought paradiseflats . I looked up the two Scottish venues. The Armadillo (Skynyrd played there in 2015) capacity 3,000. SSE Hydro capacity 13,000. I don't know what it actually means beyond the point that they want to sell a lot more tickets this time around.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 12, 2018 10:55:25 GMT
Let’s be brutally frank about this. I was perusing the other board (yes, I look at it) and some members are losing their shit over the fact Quo are support to Skynyrd. They are not alone. I really think it's quite a comedown in terms of status and I'm very surprised by it. It's not new for Francis to happily appear low on a festival bill, but this billing is very much a first. (Well, a first since about 1969 in the UK). We can assume that Francis doesn't care and is simply looking at the £££ I kind of still care. At Donington 14, I was relieved to see they can still entertain a rock audience and go down well. I hope the same is the case with these gigs. I will be surprised if these very large venues are more than half full. An appearance by Quo in the UK is not rare. Doubt the usual punters will want to pay more than usual, but for less Quo. It will appeal to the general classic rock fan, but many of them will have already seen these bands when they were better than they are now
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Post by 4th Chord on Nov 12, 2018 11:02:06 GMT
Let’s be brutally frank about this. I was perusing the other board (yes, I look at it) and some members are losing their shit over the fact Quo are support to Skynyrd. They are not alone. I really think it's quite a comedown in terms of status and I'm very surprised by it. It's not new for Francis to happily appear low on a festival bill, but this billing is very much a first. (Well, a first since about 1969 in the UK). We can assume that Francis doesn't care and is simply looking at the £££ I kind of still care. At Donington 14, I was relieved to see they can still entertain a rock audience and go down well. I hope the same is the case with these gigs. I will be surprised if these very large venues are more than half full. An appearance by Quo in the UK is not rare. Doubt the usual punters will want to pay more than usual, but for less Quo. It will appeal to the general classic rock fan, but many of them will have already seen these bands when they were better than they are now I imagine with Quo not 'touring' then it's going to be one-off support slots, festivals, 80's weekends, that type of thing. I'm sure both he, and management, are very aware that the bottom line is it's Francis as Quo now. Rick was a very recognisable part of Quo for most people and with him gone, the draw to see the band is diminished as well.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 12, 2018 13:56:24 GMT
I imagine with Quo not 'touring' then it's going to be one-off support slots, festivals, 80's weekends, that type of thing. I'm sure both he, and management, are very aware that the bottom line is it's Francis as Quo now. Rick was a very recognisable part of Quo for most people and with him gone, the draw to see the band is diminished as well.Plus they have made the situation worse by keeping the same set. You can have too much of a good thing, and clearly lots of fans feel that they've had plenty enough of the set! I think it's reasonable to assume that at this stage there won't ever be a radical overhaul. I think it would be quite a risk to have another headlining tour unless venues go back to theatrers. Of the fans that went last time, some will not be impressed that some blonde guy was singing Rick's songs. Diminishing returns a certainty now for touring. But yeah, as you say, the other stuff remains profitable.
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Post by 4th Chord on Nov 12, 2018 14:46:34 GMT
I imagine with Quo not 'touring' then it's going to be one-off support slots, festivals, 80's weekends, that type of thing. I'm sure both he, and management, are very aware that the bottom line is it's Francis as Quo now. Rick was a very recognisable part of Quo for most people and with him gone, the draw to see the band is diminished as well.Plus they have made the situation worse by keeping the same set. You can have too much of a good thing, and clearly lots of fans feel that they've had plenty enough of the set! I think it's reasonable to assume that at this stage there won't ever be a radical overhaul. I think it would be quite a risk to have another headlining tour unless venues go back to theatrers. Of the fans that went last time, some will not be impressed that some blonde guy was singing Rick's songs. Diminishing returns a certainty now for touring. But yeah, as you say, the other stuff remains profitable. Frame is 10 years too late to rethink the band. Even after those FF gigs, he had a choice. Reinvigorate things with the existing lineup, or have a few years of the original line up leading up to a big farewell gig/tour. He rejected both options, temporarily bringing in some of the FF gig tracks into the setlist doesn't count. There was all the talk of an EP, a few tracks. Maybe it would have got his creative juices flowing again, maybe not, but it would have been worth a try. Even his patter is the same every gig. "I like this one". God. Francis Rossi. Maybe if the little show off had trumped the insecurity he could have been one of rock's legends, still pushing it artistically instead of coasting on past glories.
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Post by markquo on Nov 12, 2018 16:09:35 GMT
Francis Rossi’s Quo,coming soon to your local coffee morning. Cheers
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