Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 10:44:23 GMT
Its never been a top favourite of mine, even back in the day It was ok, but its extreme over familiarity hasn't helped and nowadays, for me, its the antithesis of karaoke. In terms of the set, I don't think it's the best known tracks where the focus should lie. If I went to see Springsteen, I would be disappointed if he didn't play Born in the USA, if I saw Motörhead I would have been disappointed if they hadn't played Overkill,Ace of spades or Klled by death. Bands should for me have a core set, unless otherwise advertised. I am a huge Metallica fan. I am going to all the UK dates this year. I normally try to do at least 2 or 3 gigs a tour for a new album. The set is made up of the three or four popular standards, four or five new songs. The rest is made up of other songs. Lars looks at the songs played in that city for the last ten years and tries to avoid playing those songs again. I know Status Quo wouldn't go that far, never mind what Springsteen or Pearl Jam do in terms of set. But they for me, could play what people expect/want. So let's say Caroline,Rockin,Whatever,Down down and maybe In the Army. 3 songs from the last 30 years and the rest other songs. Never happen, they used to when touring supported record sales. The set has been pretty static for a long time. Not going to change now. Some hits are obviously to be expected, irrespective how bored and over familiar they may be to me or anyone else. But the emphasis should be progressive in terms of dynamically changing the set around the hits, not also cementing the same minority of core songs around the same hits doh If Quo represent up to 50 yrs of catalogue, then the static core set of the last umpteen yrs is the most woefully ridiculous representation of that. Nothwithstanding the fact that I think this FR version of the band should be recording new material anyway instead of what is now karaoke of the karaoke they were playing even when Rick was around.
It obviously won't ever happen to ideals as stated, but that doesn't invalidate any opinion that it should happen.
|
|
|
Post by 4th Chord on Aug 12, 2017 10:47:06 GMT
That board is LAUGHABLE. Bunch of bellends that support king bellend. Don’t sweat it. They’re soulless, humourless numpties. They accuse us of not being Quo fans, yet they care not a jot about the band and who’s in it. Unbelievable. Still, good to see them get over the loss of Rick so quickly. If they didn’t actually deep down agree, they wouldn’t be so defensive, especially Henrik.
|
|
|
Post by paradiseflats on Aug 12, 2017 10:51:13 GMT
That board is LAUGHABLE. Bunch of bellends that support king bellend. Don’t sweat it. They’re soulless, humourless numpties. They accuse us of not being Quo fans, yet they care not a jot about the band and whose in it. Unbelievable. Still, good to see them get over the loss of Rick so quickly. If they didn’t actually deep down agree, they wouldn’t be so defensive, especially Henrik. 4th you need to moderate yourself. Don't be drawn down by fools. Or control freaks whomever they are. It is no ones job to say who is or isn't a Quo fan. If it was down to me there would be a few hundred who would pass muster.
|
|
|
Post by 4th Chord on Aug 12, 2017 11:17:18 GMT
Don’t sweat it. They’re soulless, humourless numpties. They accuse us of not being Quo fans, yet they care not a jot about the band and whose in it. Unbelievable. Still, good to see them get over the loss of Rick so quickly. If they didn’t actually deep down agree, they wouldn’t be so defensive, especially Henrik. 4th you need to moderate yourself. Don't be drawn down by fools. Or control freaks whomever they are. It is no ones job to say who is or isn't a Quo fan. If it was down to me there would be a few hundred who would pass muster. I’m not often, but if they want to have a direct go at members here then hell mend them. They’re the ones suggesting people on here aren’t Quo fans btw, not the othet way around. They can like whatever the hell they want to but they can piss off with the hypocritical posts about how opinions here don’t matter. I don’t think my comment is anything but factual.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 11:19:20 GMT
If it was down to me, anyone who embraces or has embraced Quo at some time, therefore is (or has been) a fan. My own view as a fan is based starting from the FF period, but I could never start to think to pass muster on passing judgement on anyone else who became a fan later than that.
That's the whole point - the sanctimonious, passive aggressive tut tutting of 'beloved' FF fans by fans who stay appreciative of the current day, is as divisive, hypocritical, non accepting and closed minded at least as much as the 'stuck in the 70's' FF fans themselves are *supposed* to be
I don't belong to any other fan based mb for any other band, but it saddens me to see from a cursory inspection of other fan bases that none appear to be as divided, internecine, hostile and bickering as those who follow or who have followed Status Quo
Based on my earliest recollection of Quo and the 'Quo army' back in the day being the most tight knit, accepting, friendly, benign and united team you could find, and perfectly suited therefore to having an amazing vibe connection with an amazing band - the tribal virtual total world of SQ, very much encompassing FB, couldn't be more the opposite experience.
Very sad, and very very disappointing
|
|
|
Post by paradiseflats on Aug 12, 2017 11:20:10 GMT
4th you need to moderate yourself. Don't be drawn down by fools. Or control freaks whomever they are. It is no ones job to say who is or isn't a Quo fan. If it was down to me there would be a few hundred who would pass muster. I’m not often, but if they want to have a direct go at members here then hell mend them. They’re the ones suggesting people on here aren’t Quo fans btw, not the othet way around. They can like whatever the hell they want to but they can piss off with the hypocritical posts about how opinions here don’t matter. I don’t think my comment is anything but factual. I wasn't being critical of you... if that is how it came across. I agree with the sentiment.
|
|
|
Post by 4th Chord on Aug 12, 2017 11:37:13 GMT
If it was down to me, anyone who embraces or has embraced Quo at some time, therefore is (or has been) a fan. My own view as a fan is based starting from the FF period, but I could never start to think to pass muster on passing judgement on anyone else who became a fan later than that.
That's the whole point - the sanctimonious, passive aggressive tut tutting of 'beloved' FF fans by fans who stay appreciative of the current day, is as divisive, hypocritical, non accepting and closed minded at least as much as the 'stuck in the 70's' FF fans themselves are *supposed* to be
I don't belong to any other fan based mb for any other band, but it saddens me to see from a cursory inspection of other fan bases that none appear to be as divided, internecine, hostile and bickering as those who follow or who have followed Status Quo
Based on my earliest recollection of Quo and the 'Quo army' back in the day being the most tight knit, accepting, friendly, benign and united team you could find, and perfectly suited therefore to having an amazing vibe connection with an amazing band - the tribal virtual total world of SQ, very much encompassing FB, couldn't be more the opposite experience.
Very sad, and very very disappointing I blame Francis.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 12:00:45 GMT
I am fully aware that direct references to other places are very much part of the problem under discussion, but there is just one post from a resident member there who lives north of the border, (other than the valiant attempt by Quoincidence to put some past and present perspective on things )that has anything balanced, objective, and non-thought-police to say.
But back to the thought police themselves. I have to smile at the comments by a man in a helmet whose recollections of FF gigs in the late 70's are negative in terms of attendance and quality compared to Cardiff 76. No-one would dispute that the 76 gig is seen as one of the main pinnacles even by FF members themselves, let alone fans who were there - but his comments about subsequent gigs are simply subjective according to his own opinion. They certainly are an opposite experience to my own, as stated and remembered fondly a little earlier
Two different views and recollections, but both of them equally valid in their own way according to different people and different experiences... or at least as I would humbly see it at face value...Unfortunately the big difference is that the man in the helmet believes he is a self appointed spokesman for all fans and clearly thinks he is co-head of his tribe. A clear example of the type of sanctimonious thought police that widens divides, not closes them as he might believes is being preached. On the subject of preaching and speaking as head-tribe, there are, shall we say, back-up posts to the man in the helmet which are equally dripping in sanctimonious faux authority on all things Quo and intended thought police for all fans of all persuasions *supposedly* to take on board.
|
|
|
Post by dennis on Aug 12, 2017 12:34:25 GMT
It seems to me that, for some people, Status Quo is synonymous with Francis Rossi. This is understandable as this will be all many have known for the last 30++ years. However, for those fans of the classic Mk II lineup in the early to mid-'70s this seems somewhat anathema as we recall that period as being when Quo were a four piece band. Unlike, say, John Fogerty & CCR, Robert Smith & The Cure, Robert Fripp & King Crimson, Mark Knopfler & Dire Straits, etc, Quo were not the product of one key person + others. The Rossi-isation of the band has been a steady creep, ironically occurring after his creative contribution had peaked in the mid-'70s. It's been increasingly his band for a very, very long time - a shame what he's done with it, imo.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 13:03:44 GMT
It was the sum of all the parts for me in the 70's - even though I readily admit having had too much of a bias thing towards Francis for reasons other than just the music I'm glad in this respect I already owned most all of the catalogue to date by the time I went to my first gig in 77. That helped temper the bias more than it might have been
My own Rossi-isation bias has collapsed spectacularly in recent most years. Lack of simpering rose tints, helped by the reunions, has led to even greater appreciation of what the others brought to the band (not that I didn't recognise this at all obviously anyway). But especially as Francis attitude and behaviour has got more and more contradictory and obtuse in general as well as alienatory towards long standing fans. Its only music, and not the be all and end of life, but its still tricky not to take it as a personal slur based on the adoration showered freely at one time - whether that be the music or any other reason
John and Alan might have missed out on so much after being out in the cold from the early and mid 80's respectively, but they are both the most apparently grounded of the original four (allowing for the very sad passing of Rick). Can only think what might have been if they had managed to have greater sway in proceedings back then, and if the drugs hadn't also got in the way to the extent they did.
|
|
|
Post by Tʰᵉ Wᵃˡˡ Oᶠ Dᵉᵃᵗʰ on Aug 12, 2017 13:28:20 GMT
|
|
|
Post by freewilly on Aug 12, 2017 13:36:38 GMT
"1979 tour wasn't even sold out. It was a flop" "Gigs after 1976 were brutal" "If Rhino was on stage instead of Alan at the FF gigs, no one would notice. Except for improvements on the bass lines" "The FF tours were all nostalgia. Old men in boys clothes"
Old men in boys clothes? As opposed to Rhino, Rossi and Andy in their pipes and slippers.
Good God...If I ever met these people...
|
|
|
Post by Tʰᵉ Wᵃˡˡ Oᶠ Dᵉᵃᵗʰ on Aug 12, 2017 13:46:09 GMT
"1979 tour wasn't even sold out. It was a flop" "Gigs after 1976 were brutal" "If Rhino was on stage instead of Alan at the FF gigs, no one would notice. Except for improvements on the bass lines" "The FF tours were all nostalgia. Old men in boys clothes" Old men in boys clothes? As opposed to Rhino, Rossi and Andy in their pipes and slippers. Good God...If I ever met these people... You won't. They only go to see FR's Quo and visit their local 99p Stores.
|
|
kiwipom
Veteran Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 1,262
|
Post by kiwipom on Aug 12, 2017 13:52:23 GMT
"1979 tour wasn't even sold out. It was a flop" "Gigs after 1976 were brutal" "If Rhino was on stage instead of Alan at the FF gigs, no one would notice. Except for improvements on the bass lines" "The FF tours were all nostalgia. Old men in boys clothes" Old men in boys clothes? As opposed to Rhino, Rossi and Andy in their pipes and slippers. Good God...If I ever met these people... erm...... A flop? - late 70s/early 80s UK tours typically had 5 or 6 nights at Hammersmith, 3 or 4 in Glasgow, 3 in Manchester and often 2 at places like Blackpool, Newcastle, Leicester, Ipswich, Southampton and others..... .....although admittedly it doesn't quite compare to 1 night at Brentwood Leisure Centre, the Anvil/Reading or the closing entertainment at the Newmarket Friday night race meetings..... Brutal? - the FF + AB gigs were great - a band on top form with additional/discreet keyboards Alan was part of the very fibre/soul/swagger of Status Quo. Rhino is the bass player in the current band. Enough said. The 2013/14 FF tours reminded everyone of what the Status Quo sound/feel/"swagger" was all about - and what they had been denied for 28 years....
|
|
|
Post by paradiseflats on Aug 12, 2017 13:56:41 GMT
"1979 tour wasn't even sold out. It was a flop" "Gigs after 1976 were brutal" "If Rhino was on stage instead of Alan at the FF gigs, no one would notice. Except for improvements on the bass lines" "The FF tours were all nostalgia. Old men in boys clothes" Old men in boys clothes? As opposed to Rhino, Rossi and Andy in their pipes and slippers. Good God...If I ever met these people... Knocking what has come before whether you believe it or not, doesn't make them any better today Maybe in '78 audiences were down, there was a major financial crisis at the time, leading into the Winter of discontent.
|
|