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Rossi
Aug 3, 2017 21:49:36 GMT
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Post by madturk on Aug 3, 2017 21:49:36 GMT
I think I know why Francis Rossi is a grumpy person.
At a time when other British bands were having success in America, his band didn't. He is not regarded in the same way as other British guitarists. Outside of Quo circles people would not give you the following list, Clapton, Page, May, Gilmour, Rossi, Iommi.
He is the odd one out in that list!
Maybe he feels he never got the success, credibility and recognition he thought he deserved.
Many outwardly successful people loathe the thing that gives them the bulk of their income. They wanted success in something more worthy.
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Post by charles on Aug 3, 2017 22:03:05 GMT
It's not the lack of recognition for his guitar prowess that makes him grumpy: he's told us over and over he thinks he's not a good guitarist. He's just pissed off because the songs he likes most are seen - even by Mrs. Smith - as utter shite. He doesn't like the old Quo songs, but is doomed to keep on playing them for cash & attention. That is why Rossi is so grumpy.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:10:51 GMT
Post by Detroit on Aug 3, 2017 22:10:51 GMT
I think I know why Francis Rossi is a grumpy person. At a time when other British bands were having success in America, his band didn't. He is not regarded in the same way as other British guitarists.Outside of Quo circles people would not give you the following list, Clapton, Page, May, Gilmour, Rossi, Iommi. He is the odd one out in that list! Maybe he feels he never got the success, credibility and recognition he thought he deserved. Many outwardly successful people loathe the thing that gives them the bulk of their income. They wanted success in something more worthy. According to this list he is not regarded at all. Over 500 guitarists listed here, no Rossi. Oh, Quo did make a couple lists on this site, but not best guitarist. Digital Dreamdoor
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Aug 3, 2017 22:35:31 GMT
Post by Detroit on Aug 3, 2017 22:35:31 GMT
I think I know why Francis Rossi is a grumpy person. At a time when other British bands were having success in America, his band didn't. He is not regarded in the same way as other British guitarists.Outside of Quo circles people would not give you the following list, Clapton, Page, May, Gilmour, Rossi, Iommi. He is the odd one out in that list! Maybe he feels he never got the success, credibility and recognition he thought he deserved. Many outwardly successful people loathe the thing that gives them the bulk of their income. They wanted success in something more worthy. According to this list he is not regarded at all. Over 500 guitarists listed here, no Rossi. Oh, Quo did make a couple lists on this site, but not best guitarist. Digital DreamdoorI stand corrected: 240 & 241. Francis Rossi / Rick Parfitt
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Post by dennis on Aug 3, 2017 22:43:03 GMT
According to this list he is not regarded at all. Over 500 guitarists listed here, no Rossi. Oh, Quo did make a couple lists on this site, but not best guitarist. Digital DreamdoorI stand corrected: 240 & 241. Francis Rossi / Rick Parfitt & that's the wrong way round!
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Rossi
Aug 4, 2017 12:39:10 GMT
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Post by Gaz on Aug 4, 2017 12:39:10 GMT
It's not the lack of recognition for his guitar prowess that makes him grumpy: he's told us over and over he thinks he's not a good guitarist. He's just pissed off because the songs he likes most are seen - even by Mrs. Smith - as utter shite. He doesn't like the old Quo songs, but is doomed to keep on playing them for cash & attention. That is why Rossi is so grumpy. Purgatory?
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Aug 4, 2017 15:36:26 GMT
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Aug 4, 2017 15:36:26 GMT
It's not the lack of recognition for his guitar prowess that makes him grumpy: he's told us over and over he thinks he's not a good guitarist. He's just pissed off because the songs he likes most are seen - even by Mrs. Smith - as utter shite. He doesn't like the old Quo songs, but is doomed to keep on playing them for cash & attention. That is why Rossi is so grumpy. Purgatory? Quite the perfect torture for a humourless, contrary.. Its hilarious that for the rest of his limited performing days he will be forced to play these songs(he 'claims') are crap..perfect natural justice i reckon😆😆
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Aug 5, 2017 6:19:12 GMT
Post by Railroad17 on Aug 5, 2017 6:19:12 GMT
What would be Rossi's perfect Quo set?
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Post by charles on Aug 5, 2017 8:33:19 GMT
You forgot the Pish&Shite medley, but the last one was genius.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 9:05:12 GMT
I think he could make up a very decent set if he wanted to. There was nothing wrong at all with the solo set, in my own opinion, back in 2010. I was disappointed that the gig I had tickets for was cancelled for health reasons on his part. I think he and his band were really good on that tour. An example of the approach that is missing right now and why there should be something different to LNOTE. Too many of the songs/hits in that set are unsuitable for his vocal range, for a start.
If/when he was to put his heart/mind to it, he is still capable of much much more. Whatever he may say about the reunions and the 70's hey-day, as everyone knows he raised the bar considerably at those gigs as the usual FF instinct kicked it - even after 30 yrs in the wilderness. You can't put a price on that.
As the saying goes though, you can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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Aug 5, 2017 9:27:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 9:27:20 GMT
It's not the lack of recognition for his guitar prowess that makes him grumpy: he's told us over and over he thinks he's not a good guitarist. He's just pissed off because the songs he likes most are seen - even by Mrs. Smith - as utter shite. He doesn't like the old Quo songs, but is doomed to keep on playing them for cash & attention. That is why Rossi is so grumpy. I don't agree with all 100% of that Some of the songs he likes most are also songs I like most. Its just that over so many decades there are literally masses and masses of songs that could be chosen from and unfortunately in relative terms a ridiculous few, the same over and over again, keep being chosen instead.
It *could* be very different. And so much better. No one is saying he is a world beater, but his overall abilities I don't think, should be in dispute. They are too often underrated actually - largely because he does himself no favours with decisions that are made.
Its very much more to do with attitude, and a contrary approach that always seems to go against those better wishes and options (of which there are countless) and not in favour of them.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Aug 5, 2017 9:39:42 GMT
Being the kind and caring Humanist that I am, I'm starting to feel sorry for Davy's Walloper Poor old Francis doesn't like the FF songs. I find that very hard to believe. I've seen the body language and facial expression he uses when he's saying something he doesn't mean or believe himself. He is definitely my least fave member of QUO. Lancaster is my fave. I can look back on all my artistic pursuits with fondness and joy. Some of the bands I've played in were great and some not so, but I don't openly criticise them. I just moved on and found musicians who were close to my level. When I was the best actor in theatre productions I told everyone that they were great, even when they weren't. That's being supportive not insincere. How the hell could Francis like 'Margie Time' which is rubbish, yet not like FF songs? Has he named any songs in particular or just in general? Francis has 8 children, are there any that he doesn't like? If there are, then he's not going to tell us. So, as a singer in one of my bands once said whilst chatting with the audience " I should shut up and sing now" Francis should do himself and everyone else a big favour and stop the negative comments. Francis is a great guitarist and one of the best singers in music history and that's where it ends, anything else he says or does or thinks I really couldn't give a @#$% about.
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Aug 5, 2017 10:16:14 GMT
Post by noizeboyz on Aug 5, 2017 10:16:14 GMT
How come "Maiden" cant alternate the Set List, Same with "Springsteen" virtually different Set List each night plus Requests
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Rossi
Aug 5, 2017 10:26:29 GMT
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Post by slowtrain7 on Aug 5, 2017 10:26:29 GMT
It's that self deprecation by Rossi saying that he's not a good guitarist which is an example of him saying something that he doesn't believe.
He means that he's not technically proficient. Which to me means that he's a better guitarist than most because he's not classically trained, he is an 'organic' guitarist.
Captain Beefheart conveyed his tunes to the musicians in the studio by whistling them.
Some of the biggest and most famous musicians in history haven't read or written music.
Of course Rossi is a great guitarist, he can't come out and say that he is for obvious reasons.
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Rossi
Aug 5, 2017 10:33:17 GMT
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Post by Gaz on Aug 5, 2017 10:33:17 GMT
It's that self deprecation by Rossi saying that he's not a good guitarist which is an example of him saying something that he doesn't believe. He means that he's not technically proficient. Which to me means that he's a better guitarist than most because he's not classically trained, he is an 'organic' guitarist. Captain Beefheart conveyed his tunes to the musicians in the studio by whistling them. Some of the biggest and most famous musicians in history haven't read or written music. Of course Rossi is a great guitarist, he can't come out and say that he is for obvious reasons. In my world of Quo being my fav band, Rossi was equal to Angus Young in that Dublin DVD on a few songs like Railroad. Forget Hendrix and all the rest... I'm Quo and Francis along with Rick, Alan, and John is brilliant.
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