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Post by madturk on Apr 11, 2017 3:22:23 GMT
For all the big earners in rock like Clapton, Rolling Stones etc there are so many musicians who are earning a meagre amount.
I'm not disrespecting Nuff and Spud but they seem to have missed out on the big yearly royalty payments.
I'm sure the reunion tours were a very welcome pension top up.
Look at the current Slade, I read in the paper they have to keep touring to pay the bills. Holder/Lea got all the money.
Somebody like Paul Di'Anno from Iron Maiden probably didn't have any other skills or experience for anything else and like so many, he has to sing the old songs in pubs.
Some guy who was in one of Ritchie Blackmore's bands was flogging one of the maestro's smashed up Stratocasters on eBay...
It must be demoralising for these guys.
Pete Kircher was smart to go back to a normal job after his time in Quo.
Fame and fortune is down to luck.
Look at bloody Justin Bieber and all the money he's got. Each one of 1Direction has something like £50m ffs 🤔
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 11, 2017 6:01:01 GMT
Capitalism and Free Enterprise is rife with inequity and injustice.
Some of the best Musos have a $10 bill in there jeans and they're going down the dustpipe.
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Post by Railroad17 on Apr 11, 2017 9:17:12 GMT
The trick is to write the songs or at least make a credited writer deal.Coldplay have done this because the manager insisted on it and everyone gets an equal share.
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Post by Railroad17 on Apr 11, 2017 9:20:30 GMT
For all the big earners in rock like Clapton, Rolling Stones etc there are so many musicians who are earning a meagre amount. I'm not disrespecting Nuff and Spud but they seem to have missed out on the big yearly royalty payments. I'm sure the reunion tours were a very welcome pension top up. Look at the current Slade, I read in the paper they have to keep touring to pay the bills. Holder/Lea got all the money. Somebody like Paul Di'Anno from Iron Maiden probably didn't have any other skills or experience for anything else and like so many, he has to sing the old songs in pubs. Some guy who was in one of Ritchie Blackmore's bands was flogging one of the maestro's smashed up Stratocasters on eBay... It must be demoralising for these guys. Pete Kircher was smart to go back to a normal job after his time in Quo. Fame and fortune is down to luck. Look at bloody Justin Bieber and all the money he's got. Each one of 1Direction has something like £50m ffs 🤔 "Fame and fortune is down to luck".I heard luck defined as hard work and talent meets opportunity. Gary Player the golfer said "The more I practice the luckier I get"....Quo lucky or really big on hard work and self belief? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 15:09:58 GMT
Jimmy Bain bass player in Rainbow and Dio died last year in January from undiagnosed lung cancer as he couldn't afford to pay for health care in the US, the doc he had seen for free and said he had pneumonia, such a waste of a great talent and a lovely guy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 18:43:58 GMT
Hi All, Unless you know the ins and outs of the stars own personal lives you can't really appreciate what they all go through. Just like the everyday worker they still have bills to pay at the end of the day whether they choose to pay whatever through their time while being famous is another question.
Don't forget a lot of them have managers who are meant to be the ones who look after them and on top of that they have financial advisors who are meant to keep an eye on their fortune. It must be a hell of a temptation for these people to advise the stars badly while they are sitting in front of them or talking to them on the phone, especially when the stars are Drunk or high as a kite to Rip them off/Advise to invest in this that or the other when they know they will get a cut even if it fails/Tell them whatever bill has been paid when it has not etc.etc.etc.
The music industry I imagine in the 60's/70's/80's/90's/Early 2000's and even still today to a certain degree is full of con men. Just as you get the con man knocking at your door at home these scum would see an opportunity to rip these stars off. The brighter ones knowing when to move on to the next but leaving themselves spotless and untouchable while the star is left ruined similar to what Don King did with Tyson (Allegedly)
On top of all that you have the stars themselves not being good with Finances/Hangers on bleeding them dry/Gigs drying up/Playing for stupid money all combining to make a bad situation worse to the point you have what the OP was on about sadly..... 
Geoff.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 12, 2017 12:42:49 GMT
They used to say the music business was one of the ways to escape from a poor background ... but it only works for a few people. I did use to run across musicians (can't remember names now) who made a passable living my recording their own music and selling it and doing small performances. These tended to be individuals, and a lot of ambient music was involved ... running a band is so much more difficult, everyone has different lifestyle needs, and the expenses are higher. OTOH a big hit and a "name" can keep a working musician going for years if he or she doesn't mind working unsocial hours for a modest income. "It beats havign a proper job", as they say. :-)
The story of Jimmy Bain reminds me of stories I have heard about moderately successful writers in the US who have been helped by friends and colleagues long after it was too late because they kept quiet about illness ... healthcare in the US is very expensive if you don't have a regular job, and people just miss out, like this guy, he could have got emergency treatment if he'd been sent to hospital. But what then? How does he get the follow up treatment? It's geared to the insurance companies paying premium prices for everything, and then your insurance runs out and you have nothing ... not a great system.
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Post by madturk on Apr 12, 2017 15:01:20 GMT
Could a certain person whose name has been omitted from song lyrics over the years bear some responsibility for some of the inequitable distribution of funds?
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