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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 21, 2017 19:14:34 GMT
Ok I get what your saying regarding the phrase but it honestly wasn't meant n the way you and FW are interpreting it. The whole sentence was about Aquostic hopefully coming to an end so maybe those words would have worked better in hindsight. I do understand a lot of people feel Ricks death still affects them immensely so apologies if the phrase upset anyone ! BUT for a message board going forward in the future then at some point in time some things you just have to come to terms with ! We'll maybe give it a bit more than 8 weeks to come to terms with his death before we start 'going forward' and getting excited about the possibility of hearing Rhino sing 'Rain' again though.
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Post by Railroad17 on Feb 21, 2017 19:24:30 GMT
It won't really be SQ though will it? Cheers As he says, Spud's Quo are nothing but a tribute, while Rossi's Quo is the real deal.... Despite the fact they both have just the one member of Quo in each band and they both pay tribute to their 70s peak in their live sets and Rossi's band just played to vastly smaller audiences than before..... I know And while I'm at it, I find the whole "Oh he's got the bug again" lark highly disgusting and an unnecessary remark to make. Considering the man's professional partner of 50 years just died. I think FR can justify real deal status along the lines of suppose a new album was recorded written by him and the rest.That's not going to happen with JCQ. Also Will you've hit the nail on the head with professional partner.Imagine Status Quo as SQ painting and decorating ltd and it all makes sense.
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 21, 2017 19:29:35 GMT
As he says, Spud's Quo are nothing but a tribute, while Rossi's Quo is the real deal.... Despite the fact they both have just the one member of Quo in each band and they both pay tribute to their 70s peak in their live sets and Rossi's band just played to vastly smaller audiences than before..... I know And while I'm at it, I find the whole "Oh he's got the bug again" lark highly disgusting and an unnecessary remark to make. Considering the man's professional partner of 50 years just died. I think FR can justify real deal status along the lines of suppose a new album was recorded written by him and the rest.That's not going to happen with JCQ. Also Will you've hit the nail on the head with professional partner.Imagine Status Quo as SQ painting and decorating ltd and it all makes sense. Indeed. Argument after argument with the 'they're a business' and 'it's like supporting a football team' analogies. No it bloody well isn't. Say you're a Phil Collins fan. There must be some. Phil dies. Tom Jones fills in for him. The casual crowds would still enjoy the gigs. Tom can hold a tune, and may even 'invigorate' Sussudio. Those who loved Phil Collins though. Who grew up listening to him. Posters of Phil on their walls. For them, not so much.
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Post by Detroit on Feb 21, 2017 19:31:24 GMT
I think FR can justify real deal status along the lines of suppose a new album was recorded written by him and the rest.That's not going to happen with JCQ. Also Will you've hit the nail on the head with professional partner.Imagine Status Quo as SQ painting and decorating ltd and it all makes sense. Indeed. Argument after argument with the 'they're a business' and 'it's like supporting a football team' analogies. No it bloody well isn't. Say you're a Phil Collins fan. There must be some. Phil dies. Tom Jones fills in for him. The casual crowds would still enjoy the gigs. Tom can hold a tune, and may even 'invigorate' Sussudio.Those who loved Phil Collins though. Who grew up listening to him. Posters of Phil on their walls. For them, not so much. Surely not many. I loath that song. ..but you make a valid point.
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Post by Railroad17 on Feb 21, 2017 19:41:09 GMT
I think Status Quo were victims in their own success."Surely it can't be this simple" must have crept in and they changed...never change a winning team.If they would have kept going in the same vein they would have been alright.How could such a formula fail,BFY is such a magnificent album with everything on the previous albums that was great present on this album.They did let the press effect them and have spent 40 years looking for a critical acceptance that was not going to occur due to the bands unwillingness to play the game back in the MM and NME dominated 70s.But oddly one of the beloved of the serious music press,activist and journalist Mick Farren,thought that Status Quo were a wonderful band.I still think the NME journo who called Quo the inspiration for all punk rock bands was right..learn some chords,form a band and just fcuking play.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 21, 2017 19:56:55 GMT
I think Status Quo were victims in their own success."Surely it can't be this simple" must have crept in and they changed...never change a winning team.If they would have kept going in the same vein they would have been alright.How could such a formula fail,BFY is such a magnificent album with everything on the previous albums that was great present on this album.They did let the press effect them and have spent 40 years looking for a critical acceptance that was not going to occur due to the bands unwillingness to play the game back in the MM and NME dominated 70s.But oddly one of the beloved of the serious music press,activist and journalist Mick Farren,thought that Status Quo were a wonderful band.I still think the NME journo who called Quo the inspiration for all punk rock bands was right..learn some chords,form a band and just fcuking play. Great post ! Yep I think after BFY the Yankee dollar chase finished it back then. They were too working class for America in the 70s. I wonder how much the change from BFY to RAOTW was peer pressure from RC/ Management !! I do think WYW was the one album that they can be proud of after BFY though !
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 21, 2017 20:12:39 GMT
I think Status Quo were victims in their own success."Surely it can't be this simple" must have crept in and they changed...never change a winning team.If they would have kept going in the same vein they would have been alright.How could such a formula fail,BFY is such a magnificent album with everything on the previous albums that was great present on this album.They did let the press effect them and have spent 40 years looking for a critical acceptance that was not going to occur due to the bands unwillingness to play the game back in the MM and NME dominated 70s.But oddly one of the beloved of the serious music press,activist and journalist Mick Farren,thought that Status Quo were a wonderful band.I still think the NME journo who called Quo the inspiration for all punk rock bands was right..learn some chords,form a band and just fcuking play. Great post ! Yep I think after BFY the Yankee dollar chase finished it back then. They were too working class for America in the 70s. I wonder how much the change from BFY to RAOTW was peer pressure from RC/ Management !! I do think WYW was the one album that they can be proud of after BFY though ! I reckon it was ALL management pressure after WYW.
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 21, 2017 20:34:13 GMT
Great post ! Yep I think after BFY the Yankee dollar chase finished it back then. They were too working class for America in the 70s. I wonder how much the change from BFY to RAOTW was peer pressure from RC/ Management !! I do think WYW was the one album that they can be proud of after BFY though ! I reckon it was ALL management pressure after WYW. I think Alan was wanting the band to try and reach for America again but Rossi just wasn't willing to try again and perhaps the rest of the band weren't... I'll try and find the source of that though so i'm 100%... I've seen it somewhere before
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 21, 2017 21:47:29 GMT
Personally I think the only reason Francis seems into it again is because he and Andy are actually having to work at it again. The Reunion gigs and his solo gigs were the same he had to work harder to make it work. They have been on autopilot since 2010, and before that the stagnant set list has been an issue which is why I think Matt left. Maybe now they initial work has been done I think they will slip back into lower gear again.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 21, 2017 22:23:20 GMT
I can only comment and say that Francis playing was absolutely fantastic at Newcastle in December. And I can comment because I was there and everyone else enjoyed it as well.
I think Francis may well get the band at rehearsals in his own time if he decides to continue things. I think he has that work ethic ! And for those of us who welcome the continuation of the band then maybe that will result in a freshen up of the set rather than slipping back into cruise control ! Who knows....all speculation.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 22, 2017 7:31:01 GMT
I think Status Quo were victims in their own success."Surely it can't be this simple" must have crept in and they changed...never change a winning team.If they would have kept going in the same vein they would have been alright.How could such a formula fail,BFY is such a magnificent album with everything on the previous albums that was great present on this album.They did let the press effect them and have spent 40 years looking for a critical acceptance that was not going to occur due to the bands unwillingness to play the game back in the MM and NME dominated 70s.But oddly one of the beloved of the serious music press,activist and journalist Mick Farren,thought that Status Quo were a wonderful band.I still think the NME journo who called Quo the inspiration for all punk rock bands was right..learn some chords,form a band and just fcuking play. I have said that for years but no punk band/fan would ever admit that. The closest we get is Paul Weller though he was new wave.
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 22, 2017 8:43:01 GMT
I think Status Quo were victims in their own success."Surely it can't be this simple" must have crept in and they changed...never change a winning team.If they would have kept going in the same vein they would have been alright.How could such a formula fail,BFY is such a magnificent album with everything on the previous albums that was great present on this album.They did let the press effect them and have spent 40 years looking for a critical acceptance that was not going to occur due to the bands unwillingness to play the game back in the MM and NME dominated 70s.But oddly one of the beloved of the serious music press,activist and journalist Mick Farren,thought that Status Quo were a wonderful band.I still think the NME journo who called Quo the inspiration for all punk rock bands was right..learn some chords,form a band and just fcuking play. Agree Railie. And if you watch that recent interview with Francis from Germany, he talks about always needing to go after that carrot. So whether it was critical success or simply needing to be in the limelight - cos that was most of their publicity from David Walker onwards - they did that. They lost connection with their roots and lost their way musically for me. But it happens to many who find fame. Interesting point about Mick Farren and punk. I didn't know that. And initially hated punk because I thought it would stop bands like Quo. And yep, that emotional connection which 4th Chord mentions in this thread is also why I only enjoy the FF line-up live. All else isn't Quo for me, not even JCQ
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 18:39:38 GMT
BUT for a message board going forward in the future then at some point in time some things you just have to come to terms with ! If there is an emotional attachment to the music, and the collective band members who produced it of a particular time, that in the opinion of those who feel it made that particular time so uniquely special, then coming to terms with things is not going to happen
And why should it when it was part and parcel of what made you a fan in the first place? There is of course a time and place for mechanical rationalisation - but spontaneous, raw and instinctive rock music (such as was the FF) jives right against that and is definitely not a case in point
To pour cold water over such emotions so as to neutralise them and "move on" would be to prove the special vibe disingenuous in the first place.
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