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Post by derryquo on Sept 4, 2016 21:12:20 GMT
What about 'no more electric shows' though? I can't see FF happening again. This ending to the Status Quo story is a messy, tragic affair. So much joy and admiration from the fans, the praise from the press, and Rossi's blind indifference & refusal to accept what everyone else was celebrating. I was thinking today, if the FF tours had never happened, they would have still done Bula Quo and Aquostic, and we would have accepted them as yet more tacky promo stunts. But having done the reunion tours, there is a rather large denim coloured shadow hanging over this closing chapter. I genuinely think Rick has fallen out with Francis, and it's to do with the FF. Remember last Xmas when Rick was driving himself around the UK winter gigs? I reckon all the stress and unhappiness contributed to another heart attack. Look at the cover for Aquostic II: Rick has been relegated to the back row with the other session musicians. Something isn't right, and I'd actually be surprised if Rick comes back again. I bet there's some very interesting business discussions going on at Quo Towers at the moment. I am convinced that Rick and Francis relationship is at an all time low, started after 2014 tour and how Rossi has treated him since then,.. lets recall them, he put his foot down re ff, he told Rick to set up Plc, Rick was not as involved in apisstic, the initial boot in balls by replacing him with Freddie, announcing end of electrics, and to put the icing on cake, he has now done a full summer tour without him, sorry icing on cake is to come, the electric tour without rick |
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Post by gav on Sept 4, 2016 22:03:26 GMT
But.....but.....how could he/they?
Well remember they've been shifting away from hardcore to mainstream for 35 years or more!
And these current goings-on will be lost without a trace as far as most of their audience goes. We might have these discussions and be 'in the know' on here, but it goes no further and a very different, much-diluted (if not altered) story will be floated out to the mainstream.
It means a lot to 'us', but nothing to most. And unfortunately the management can say/do what they like. Whatever Rossi says that filters down to the average Joe will simply be lapped up without question - not saying he's manipulated his audience, but he's got a gob on him and there's too many words for people to see past unfortunately!
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Sept 4, 2016 22:12:57 GMT
Re;last of the electrics.
If you don't like the way band are going.. Givethe band/managment..don't go.
It's a business, and the chief Executive, has lost he plot.
Here's a thought, what if Alan had took the reigns in 1981..
We wouldn't have had 35 years of..err..
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Sept 4, 2016 22:51:02 GMT
Disappointed ,close to angry
I defended his use of the word wanking about the fans at the time of the reunion tours....but he must have heard he'd offended people..so he does it again. Not impressed....
It's upto him of course if he doesn't want more ff....thats been hugely disappointing but it's still his call (however annoying the reasons!). That said, Alan has said about testing the water with an ep....so I'm very sceptical about Francis' version of events
But what's making me increasingly angry is his treatment of Rick. It's now looking like the "Final electric tour" - complete with Rick on the posters ,will not feature Rick. A dishonest and sad way for the band to fizzle away
No Rick = no Quo
How can anyone be so disloyal to such a long standing friend? Silence from the Quo camp suggests Rick is far from happy
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Post by tqontq on Sept 4, 2016 23:42:18 GMT
3 out of 4 want the real Quo back and see the value in that. One doesn't. I understand Francis has his own agenda. Its his band (not that there is much left of it) but it tells you something when everyone else recognises the original sound and band and yet the front man is content in raping its legacy down to the bone and finishing his musical career on such a low.
He still doesn't get it that his own music (bar the odd contribution) has ZERO demand from Joe Public AND the old Quo fans. Its not as if his material and his direction of the Quo brand is superior to its heyday. Its only the brand people come to see and hear. And that brand is strengthened under Rick, Alan and John.
Anyway, he has taken the Quo name to such a low that who the hell cares what he does/wants now.
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Post by freewilly on Sept 5, 2016 3:32:57 GMT
This guy on FB....He engaged me on FB, in regards the latest quotes from Francis....
He said that Alan acted very spinal tap and said he was "a twat" on the last tour and that he brought his family on tour (which we knew) and tried to say that Vienna was Alan's fault...This guy says Rossi is not to blame for anything, in relation to the FF.....Even though Francis openly admits he wants no more and even though Rick has openly talked about his dissatisfaction, in relation to it..
I don't know if it's a plant or what, but, if you're on here, you're so full of shite it's laughable
It is disgusting the extent people will go to paint Rossi in a good light....Throwing Alan and his family under the bus like that is disgraceful
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 9:09:21 GMT
It wasn't really that long back that I was always praising Francis for his refreshing lack of ego. Talk about rose tinted glasses, girl! *said to self*
Shows how very wrong you can be when your perspective is completely blinded by bias...
Back in the hey-day the FF worked, and they "all got along", as Francis says in that link - largely because his melodic approach to song writing and nasaly tones was superbly "Quo'd up" by the sum of all the parts and provided perfect foil to the more typically familiar rock styles of Alan and Rick. All backed of course by the swing that John provided at the back.
However rusty the reunions were, that kind of instinctive understanding was still there in spades and immediately exposed the latterly over precise CQ methodology as mechanical and going through the motions with the eyes shut.
Francis is in complete denial with what he says. It does come across that he takes his aloof stance to the extent he does because that way he gets maximum attention and avoids stooping to humble pie in terms of conceding to being out-voted by the other three who have been in agreement of the FF prevailing further.
His dismissals are not only disrespectful to his bandmates, and the fans he mocks, but the person he is deceiving the most is himself ultimately. I admit I would have naively and rather stupidly simpered about his talk of being the Gemini and looking ahead at the future, at one time as somehow being sanguine, sage and wise. Mea culpa!.
Now it leaves me disappointed and sad that he takes his self denial to protect his fragile ego as far as he does. It also shows that he hasn't grown up anywhere nearly as much as I used to think he had done. |
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Post by Victor on Sept 5, 2016 9:12:56 GMT
Francis used to be sort of a hero to me...let's just say that idea has changed...and big time...sadly enough
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 9:29:04 GMT
Francis used to be sort of a hero to me...let's just say that idea has changed...and big time...sadly enough Rick was my hero, closely followed by Alan. Was never really into Francis.....always thought he was a bit of a prat at times. |
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Post by kiwipom on Sept 5, 2016 9:30:57 GMT
Me too Victor.
Quo came along and I was drawn to it.
I picked up on the 70s Rossi/Young song vibes first and Francis seemed to be the key to that vibe - in retrospect a formula but a good one.
Then I realised that Parfitt and Lancaster songs were great too and, together with John's charisma and natural swing, they all brought so much to the natural "swagger" of the band.
I was an avid Quo fan in my younger years, but Quo haven't had a dollar of my money for many years - probably from about 2006/7 onwards. That decision was probably a good one.
The attitude of Francis and his "know it all/bloke in the pub/rude taxi driver" bitter old man rants just get on my nerves nowadays.
He appears to have no conscience or shame, and appears to think it's just fine to bad-mouth his former band mates as he does.
Evidently he prefers to wallow in the control of his entourage of fading sycophants.
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Post by dennis on Sept 5, 2016 10:10:03 GMT
& despite all this, subject to prevailing conditions, if & when it suits him to do so we will see a further reunion - he'll act like he's doing everybody else a favour & then slag it off retrospectively whilst dragging his loot to the bank.
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Post by curiousgirl on Sept 5, 2016 12:39:59 GMT
Francis used to be sort of a hero to me...let's just say that idea has changed...and big time...sadly enough Yes, and he was a hero of mine too, particularly in my youth. My ideas have changed too and I understand those feelings of sadness/loss and we can't get the good feelings about him back. But now I've accepted and come to terms with it all, I feel liberated. Dare I say, grown up but still young at heart. Hope that is where you are now or where you'll get too on this journey with Quo. And all others fans too who've felt the same. I used Victor's post because it spoke to me right from the heart. I can still enjoy the music and that is why I'm so glad I went on this Quo adventure. |
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Post by Victor on Sept 5, 2016 13:54:15 GMT
Francis used to be sort of a hero to me...let's just say that idea has changed...and big time...sadly enough Yes, and he was a hero of mine too, particularly in my youth. My ideas have changed too and I understand those feelings of sadness/loss and we can't get the good feelings about him back. But now I've accepted and come to terms with it all, I feel liberated. Dare I say, grown up but still young at heart. Hope that is where you are now or where you'll get too on this journey with Quo. And all others fans too who've felt the same. I used Victor's post because it spoke to me right from the heart. I can still enjoy the music and that is why I'm so glad I went on this Quo adventure. Yea, i've started to come to terms with it a while ago already and know now it won't ever come back. But sometimes there's the melancholic feeling about it... on the other hand, it feels like a libration too  Oh the music from back then I will always enjoy And as far as grown up but being young at heart goes ? I will be young at heart for as long as I can |
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 5, 2016 14:16:33 GMT
Yes, and he was a hero of mine too, particularly in my youth. My ideas have changed too and I understand those feelings of sadness/loss and we can't get the good feelings about him back. But now I've accepted and come to terms with it all, I feel liberated. Dare I say, grown up but still young at heart. Hope that is where you are now or where you'll get too on this journey with Quo. And all others fans too who've felt the same. I used Victor's post because it spoke to me right from the heart. I can still enjoy the music and that is why I'm so glad I went on this Quo adventure. Yea, i've started to come to terms with it a while ago already and know now it won't ever come back. But sometimes there's the melancholic feeling about it... on the other hand, it feels like a libration too Oh the music from back then I will always enjoy And as far as grown up but being young at heart goes ? I will be young at heart for as long as I can I guess I'm lucky. My connection to Status Quo was broken in 1986. They returned and had Rossi had proven to be a Monet grabber then. He had gone off with Frost and released material that was unsuccessful. So he went back to the name that would allow him to forge his musical direction. As Rick for whatever reason became a yes man. Dumping Alan for the money. Francis tried to make them into the band he wanted but the music paying public was less than impressed. They were saved commercially by the dreadful cover albums. Yes the music improved from UTI onwards but I have had no time for the people behind the band really since '86. I've met them since and very polite they were and pretty funny. For me it's always been about their great music from 70-81. |
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Sept 5, 2016 15:15:48 GMT
This guy on FB....He engaged me on FB, in regards the latest quotes from Francis.... He said that Alan acted very spinal tap and said he was "a twat" on the last tour and that he brought his family on tour (which we knew) and tried to say that Vienna was Alan's fault...This guy says Rossi is not to blame for anything, in relation to the FF.....Even though Francis openly admits he wants no more and even though Rick has openly talked about his dissatisfaction, in relation to it.. I don't know if it's a plant or what, but, if you're on here, you're so full of shite it's laughable It is disgusting the extent people will go to paint Rossi in a good light....Throwing Alan and his family under the bus like that is disgraceful I am not enlisted on that social network, but it sounds like that fella with the matches.... What did he say about Alan? |
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Oh the music from back then I will always enjoy 
