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Post by railroad007 on Feb 21, 2024 20:05:31 GMT
I like your take 4th Chord . I missed that detail of him thinking about running the 2 line-ups in tandem. And agree, he did enjoy that Shepperton session. I don't think the tours would have happened otherwise. The other detail we (the fan base) don't like to think about is how ill Alan really was. I didn't see it - too deep in the crowd - but I've read the stories from 2014 gigs. And as he's ever the realist, I speculate that Francis realised running 2 line-ups couldn't happen due to Alan's ill health. While there could have been money to be made from new material, having worked with creatives myself, it's hard to come up with new ideas if there is antagonism going on between members. And sadly, by the end of the 2nd tour that was the case. Bula Quo would have been set up before the first reunion tour. I don't know how long it took the director to raise the finance etc. It was bad luck for us fans that it happened just after that 1st tour. "And agree, he did enjoy that Shepperton session." I don't think he missed a single opportunity to dig Lancaster out, poor Rick is looking nervous in case something starts, he changes the subject more than once by playing something, using that "Oh look, an Eagle" distraction technique with an electric guitar. There are moments when the tension is really visible, Rossi goes a bit far now and again, he and Lancaster are chatting and Parfitt play's Bloodhound and then asks "What was that thing you used to do", it sounded like a distraction to me. I've worked with blokes when they fall out and it's a fcuking nightmare after, it's never the same again, it's always there and it's really tiring to keep it all on an even keel.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 22, 2024 1:16:01 GMT
I reckon that being the major song writer, revenue earner and then somebody who you don't like anymore slag a nice little earner off must be irritating, and would stay irritating for ever. I'd be thinking as soon as one little indication of the other persons nonsense that would be it for me, I'd probably be ok at first but then it would be "I don't need this all over again". There's also the extra workload that RP had to do on stage. You can't carry passengers in the music game. The World didn't need another 1+9+8+2 or another BTB. Not forgetting that Rick was going on stage still hung over and I think that also annoyed Francis. All well and good for having a bit of a drink on the bus after the gig but Rick was out partying again and paying the price. As he had another Heart Attack later that year.
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Post by curiousgirl on Feb 22, 2024 14:35:09 GMT
I was being optimistic railroad007. I haven't seen that clip since 2012.... And I was hoping that was a happy time. Now, I can easily imagine what you say too. Sad. But there it is.
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Post by azza200 on Feb 22, 2024 14:55:54 GMT
Yeah its good points railroad007 mentions and when you look at it from that perspective makes sense
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Post by mortified on Feb 22, 2024 15:06:54 GMT
I'm not sure how good an album would have been. They'd all be pulling in different directions and, although they probably always did, it tends to seem much more acute as you get older.
Rick evidently had material, as his posthumous solo album demonstrated, and Francis always does. No idea about Alan.
But when you compare Over And Out to We Talk Too Much, you can envisage the problems that would lie ahead. I don't get the impression there would be much compromise given the personalities at play and unless a music company offered up ridiculous money (I'm actually slightly surprised no one did), the motivation would have dwindled very quickly.
In the end, the decision not to record together maybe proved to be correct given the huge success of the Aquostic project. Whether you liked it or not is academic. It was a major seller and the reunion was all but forgotten and left behind in it's wake.
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Post by fredbloggs on Feb 25, 2024 8:13:42 GMT
But when you compare Over And Out to We Talk Too Much, you can envisage the problems that would lie ahead. I don't get the impression there would be much compromise given the personalities at play and unless a music company offered up ridiculous money (I'm actually slightly surprised no one did), the motivation would have dwindled very quickly. Not sure I agree on this. I think Francis once said he'd like to do an album like AC/DC's 2008 Black Ice - thus, if in his head he committed to doing a heavier album then he'd be focused on that and not expect it to be light/country. "We Talk Too Much" was intentionally lighter - because that's the album he wanted to make at that time. And, of course, it's the job of the producer to bring the various things together and decide what goes in, so as long as it was a producer all members respected, then it could have worked. In the end, the decision not to record together maybe proved to be correct given the huge success of the Aquostic project. Whether you liked it or not is academic. It was a major seller and the reunion was all but forgotten and left behind in it's wake. True.
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