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Post by 4th Chord on Mar 26, 2024 12:38:43 GMT
I ran Run and Hide through an AI lead vocal isolator. Very clever.
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Post by Victor on Mar 26, 2024 21:23:27 GMT
For me that would be reason to stay away from a new album if that happens. I don't like Rhino's voice at all and don't think it suits quo at all. I think for me Rhino doesn't try to suite Quo or be anything he can't be, but that in a strange way works out for him. I thought Bad News was excellent. I know we really were spoilt as fans in the past vocally, it's difficult to imagine if all the Quo albums only had Francis singing lead vocals on all the tracks. I know Never Too Late suffered that fate, but let's not forget the Never too late tracks were left over tracks from the Just Supposin' sessions, and weirdly it worked out great. In fact Never too late widely remains the fans favourite, but I couldn't imagine all Quo albums with only Francis on lead vocals. I could and for the simple reason that Francis is part of the original FF. I am used to his singing. Rhino isn't. I never got used to Rhino's singing. We all think different I suppose. For example what you express as Never too Late suffering the fate of only Francis on vocals is actually my favorite quo album and one of the reasons is that I have always liked Francis' voice and still do. I simply have never liked Rhino's voice. And still don't. But each to their own of course, I have no problem with people liking his voice and wanting him to do more tracks. It just would not work for me, that's all
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 26, 2024 22:47:47 GMT
I think for me Rhino doesn't try to suite Quo or be anything he can't be, but that in a strange way works out for him. I thought Bad News was excellent. I know we really were spoilt as fans in the past vocally, it's difficult to imagine if all the Quo albums only had Francis singing lead vocals on all the tracks. I know Never Too Late suffered that fate, but let's not forget the Never too late tracks were left over tracks from the Just Supposin' sessions, and weirdly it worked out great. In fact Never too late widely remains the fans favourite, but I couldn't imagine all Quo albums with only Francis on lead vocals. I could and for the simple reason that Francis is part of the original FF. I am used to his singing. Rhino isn't. I never got used to Rhino's singing. We all think different I suppose. For example what you express as Never too Late suffering the fate of only Francis on vocals is actually my favorite quo album and one of the reasons is that I have always liked Francis' voice and still do. I simply have never liked Rhino's voice. And still don't. But each to their own of course, I have no problem with people liking his voice and wanting him to do more tracks. It just would not work for me, that's all Sorry I think you misunderstood me a bit, Francis is my favourite lead singer, but it wasent always that way, I think percentage wise on some of the early FF albums Francis took a back seat vocally. What I meant was on the NTL album, it was excellent because the songs were just so good, but it suffered the fate of not having Rick or Alan singing at least one song each. But in hindsight it didnt matter. But can you imagine a Quo without Backwater, Little Lady, etc etc?
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Post by Xland on Mar 28, 2024 17:39:16 GMT
I've stated before I haven't got a problem with Rhino's voice on record or live, providing it's on the right tunes and surely that's the point for most singers. With Rhino, just avoid anything overly high! I think his vocal on Rain has improved the more he has had to sing it, I saw them live at Wembley at end of 2022 and thought it was fine. This is only my view, but Rick's voice was shot after that suspected throat cancer or whatever it was around 2005 time, was never the same after that, the last 9-10 years of touring, regards Rick's vocal, was very hit and miss, my point being Rhino's Rain trumps that if you like, nothing more nothing less. Rick was doing pretty good vocal-wise before then, don't know what others think about 1989-1992 period, but I thought some of Rick's live vocals at that point were as good as they'd ever been. Rhino's voice suits a certain tune and style, if you can nail that, then on record or live, why wouldn't you use it! For me a perfect example is a tune like Don't Think It Matters from the Quo album, that would suit Rhino's style and voice 100%, I can even hear him singing it, would just work. In fact, funny thing is most of Alan's songs actually do suit Rhino more than Rick's. I thought he did Backwater justice and Bad News was great on record. Rhino isn't the best singer in Quo, he says as much himself, but at the same time he can do a job, just got to be very selective that's all. If they had put Never Too Old To Rock And Roll, with him on lead vocal, on the Backbone album, it would have been a great addition to that album.
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Post by Victor on Mar 29, 2024 9:23:49 GMT
I could and for the simple reason that Francis is part of the original FF. I am used to his singing. Rhino isn't. I never got used to Rhino's singing. We all think different I suppose. For example what you express as Never too Late suffering the fate of only Francis on vocals is actually my favorite quo album and one of the reasons is that I have always liked Francis' voice and still do. I simply have never liked Rhino's voice. And still don't. But each to their own of course, I have no problem with people liking his voice and wanting him to do more tracks. It just would not work for me, that's all Sorry I think you misunderstood me a bit, Francis is my favourite lead singer, but it wasent always that way, I think percentage wise on some of the early FF albums Francis took a back seat vocally. What I meant was on the NTL album, it was excellent because the songs were just so good, but it suffered the fate of not having Rick or Alan singing at least one song each. But in hindsight it didnt matter. But can you imagine a Quo without Backwater, Little Lady, etc etc? Ah I see... No of course I couldn't imagine all quo albums with only Francis singing. That goes for the FF albums and the albums after that were Rick was also doing vocals. But from the moment Rick passed away I can imagine quo albums with only Francis' vocals. I simply feel Rhino's vocals don't suit Quo. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Rhino being in Quo, it's just his vocals that never appealed to me.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 30, 2024 21:06:52 GMT
This is only my view, but Rick's voice was shot after that suspected throat cancer or whatever it was around 2005 time, was never the same after that, the last 9-10 years of touring, regards Rick's vocal, was very hit and miss You're right that it was never the same, but I don't think it was too shabby most of the time. Well, maybe my view is clouded by me getting into the band at that point so more youthful Rick wasn't what I heard first. But aside from Just Doin' It (which apparently was overdubbed anyway, according to someone here), where you can still clearly hear the issue, I think most recordings of late era Rick I've heard sound fine. Different but still not bad at all. The most notable exceptions are the two Frantic Four reunion DVDs, particularly the Wembley one, where he really sounds done.
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Post by gav on Apr 1, 2024 22:13:54 GMT
Is the problem people have with Rhino's singing that he sort of sings in his speaking voice, and it's a kind of in your face, cockney-tinged pub rock style verging on shouty? Not that i'm speaking from personal opinion! It's just maybe a less subtle, less musical style none of the other 3, Francis, Rick, and Alan have employed. Sure, Alan and Rick could project their voices, but it wasn't really with their regional accents in the mix.
I like Rhino's voice on his solo stuff, it's meant to be, but with Quo stuff done before he was in the band, the sound of Rick or Alan's voices are ingrained, they're part of the sound, and they're not meant to be any other way other than theirs. The songs themselves are very much their author's and i'd defy anyone else to be able to pull it off. Quo music is very niche in that respect, i think.
I know, rock music shouldn't be so exclusive, it's just a bit of fun, but the melodicness needs to be delivered in a very particular way, and i think only Francis, Rick, and Alan can do it, the way they wrote it.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 2, 2024 8:05:40 GMT
While that's a fair point, wouldn't we have to say that ship sailed when Rick sang Roadhouse Blues and Backwater, and Francis took over Bye Bye Johnny?
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Post by matt on Apr 2, 2024 9:29:06 GMT
I think ricks voice massively improved in the last few years before his death. I think he stopped smoking maybe?
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 16, 2024 11:49:41 GMT
I've stated before I haven't got a problem with Rhino's voice on record or live, providing it's on the right tunes and surely that's the point for most singers. With Rhino, just avoid anything I agree. 😆
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Post by railroad007 on Apr 19, 2024 18:37:58 GMT
I think he does a great job on Bad News.
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