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Post by unspokenwords on Oct 27, 2019 20:50:22 GMT
I am aware that my views are perceived to detract from the positivity around the album Backbone and therefore portrayed as negative and to annoy some on here.
As a lot of this goes around in circles with no meeting of minds, I WILL DESIST, to ensure the positivity can continue even where I fundamentally disagree with some opinions and also because I feel some times the old views are shouted down recently, especially by many newly registered 'rockers rollin'.
Keep on in the happy mode...and enjoying the fresh new albums, live rejuvenated shows etc.,
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Post by Quoincidence on Oct 27, 2019 20:54:14 GMT
All views are welcome here but the more positive views of the band are very enjoyable to read. I've been enjoying the variety of posts on the albums and Quo in general. And some of us older fans are pleasantly surprised by the new energy in the band and the new album Backbone. I'm still enjoying it. Its great to have some hope in these dark days of gloom. Whilst I understand why those object continue to do so, my main objection is that technically Status Quo is not a tribute band. They simply have new members, along with 3 long standing ones, and one original, founder member. On what basis does the 'technically' come from? Legally the right to use a name may still also constitute and be a tribute act including where one individual remains in the band. So technically and legally the current band may be 'Status Quo' but also can technically be a tribute act. In essence and reality Status Quo ended a long long time ago. JCQ would have as much right technically to be Status Quo, but not legally, but like Francis's current band he plays tribute to Status Quo but cannot unlike them, only for legal reasons, use the straight title Status Quo. Neither are tribute bands. Sick of this endless discussion, it's boring. A band can NOT be a tribute band if it contains an original member. Status Quo are still going, they never "ended". Your favourite era of the band ended, sure... but the band hasn't ended. "A tribute band does not include members of the original band whose music is being honored." - www.definitions.net/definition/tribute+act
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Post by Gaz on Oct 27, 2019 23:18:11 GMT
All views are welcome here but the more positive views of the band are very enjoyable to read. I've been enjoying the variety of posts on the albums and Quo in general. And some of us older fans are pleasantly surprised by the new energy in the band and the new album Backbone. I'm still enjoying it. Its great to have some hope in these dark days of gloom. Whilst I understand why those object continue to do so, my main objection is that technically Status Quo is not a tribute band. They simply have new members, along with 3 long standing ones, and one original, founder member. sitting on the fence at the moment standing on the outside looking in... Youll get splinters
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Post by vivfromcov on Oct 27, 2019 23:38:43 GMT
Play nice guys..... These knee jerk reactions to each other’s comments get out of hand sometimes. We all have our own opinions and thoughts and sharing those views fairly without insults would be a lot nicer to read. Please leave all that Facebook bullshit where it is. I’ve been quite proud of our board at times when it was all kicking off there and we were posting diverse opinions in a very reasonable and tolerant way.
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Post by unspokenwords on Oct 28, 2019 9:56:34 GMT
On what basis does the 'technically' come from? Legally the right to use a name may still also constitute and be a tribute act including where one individual remains in the band. So technically and legally the current band may be 'Status Quo' but also can technically be a tribute act. In essence and reality Status Quo ended a long long time ago. JCQ would have as much right technically to be Status Quo, but not legally, but like Francis's current band he plays tribute to Status Quo but cannot unlike them, only for legal reasons, use the straight title Status Quo. Neither are tribute bands. Sick of this endless discussion, it's boring. A band can NOT be a tribute band if it contains an original member. Status Quo are still going, they never "ended". Your favourite era of the band ended, sure... but the band hasn't ended. "A tribute band does not include members of the original band whose music is being honored." - www.definitions.net/definition/tribute+actThe definition you quote is not authoritative but just a slant on it. Status Quo also did actually cease and 'end' and reformed with new members replacing the original resulting in a court battle over the name, legal partnership etc., so that would fall in to the definition you quoted. A tribute act can have a member of the original band and in my opinion that it what the current band are using the title Status Quo, because they have a legal right only. I do agree it is boring but I also think it ironic and insulting that people when Backbone was released start to say the 'mighty Quo are back' etc., etc., rubbing salt in to the wounds of those that hold the original band and creators of the music dear. This is just silly and wrong. The current bad are not and never will be 'the mighty Quo' plain and simple but a band who can use the name in a legal sense. There are still bands touring of acts that existed in the 1930's and 1940's (the Ink Spots for example) but nobody in their right mind would consider them the original Ink Spots and same with numerous other acts including some of more recent times such as the Beach Boys and also those 1960's shared tours of acts that arrive at local theatres with original band names but few if any original members. 'Status Quo' are now in this same category. In reality the band should have the conviction to stand up and release their music under a new name but the simple truth is this band needs the name to survive and are not strong enough creatively to survive otherwise. I will leave it there now as I don't want to cause further annoyance to people who only want hear the other narrative as put out by the bands publicity.
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Post by Gaz on Oct 28, 2019 10:28:31 GMT
Neither are tribute bands. Sick of this endless discussion, it's boring. A band can NOT be a tribute band if it contains an original member. Status Quo are still going, they never "ended". Your favourite era of the band ended, sure... but the band hasn't ended. "A tribute band does not include members of the original band whose music is being honored." - www.definitions.net/definition/tribute+actThe definition you quote is not authoritative but just a slant on it. Status Quo also did actually cease and 'end' and reformed with new members replacing the original resulting in a court battle over the name, legal partnership etc., so that would fall in to the definition you quoted. A tribute act can have a member of the original band and in my opinion that it what the current band are using the title Status Quo, because they have a legal right only. I do agree it is boring but I also think it ironic and insulting that people when Backbone was released start to say the 'mighty Quo are back' etc., etc., rubbing salt in to the wounds of those that hold the original band and creators of the music dear. This is just silly and wrong. The current bad are not and never will be 'the mighty Quo' plain and simple but a band who can use the name in a legal sense. There are still bands touring of acts that existed in the 1930's and 1940's (the Ink Spots for example) but nobody in their right mind would consider them the original Ink Spots and same with numerous other acts including some of more recent times such as the Beach Boys and also those 1960's shared tours of acts that arrive at local theatres with original band names but few if any original members. 'Status Quo' are now in this same category. In reality the band should have the conviction to stand up and release their music under a new name but the simple truth is this band needs the name to survive and are not strong enough creatively to survive otherwise. I will leave it there now as I don't want to cause further annoyance to people who only want hear the other narrative as put out by the bands publicity. Now that was fair out of your anal passage.
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Post by sqcollector on Oct 28, 2019 11:10:38 GMT
I also think it ironic and insulting that people when Backbone was released start to say the 'mighty Quo are back' etc., etc., rubbing salt in to the wounds of those that hold the original band and creators of the music dear. I find this a bit sad. People have the right to enjoy the new album. Why would you criticize those people? Maybe they find the new album as good as the albums from the FF era. That's not up to you to criticize and bash those people just for that. Especially when you say they are insulting the FF members. It's not correct to degrade people just because you don't agree with them. You are actually doing with them what you are saying they do with the FF when these people show enjoyment towards the current line-up and their work. No one is considering this the original Quo. The original Quo ceased to be when Roy Lynes left the band. Then, Status Quo proceeded and that's not wrong at all. Even if you don't like it and it's just for legal reason, they are still Status Quo. It is the same name and the same band, even if at a conceptual level (if you want to approach this with such scrutiny). The people there changed. It's fine to share your opinions, but it's very unpleasant to read all these insults just because people still enjoy a 50+ years old band, whereas you just can't and want them to be stuck in a timeframe or something.
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Post by Victor on Oct 28, 2019 11:55:30 GMT
Reading all the discussions it makes me think of all the feelings and thoughts I have concerning this band. There was a time that there was "The mighty Quo"...at one point that got lost and never could return either. I kept following the band despite quite a lot of dissapointments from them along the way. Why ? Because they simply were something very special to me in the later seventies and early eighties. In all the years that followed I have gotten to know and appreciate loads of other artists and bands and some managed to touch the same feelings Quo once did back then. But BECAUSE they once touched those snares in me I kept following them. And yep, as a fan of primarely the 70-81 period plus a couple of albums in later years, I can only say that I am happy with this album. OIf course it's not "The Mighty Quo" ! How could it ever be with only one original member left ? How could it still sound the same as 40 years ago ? Music and bands change over time. And while I look different at things then I did back then amd have found lots and lots of other music that touches me in some way, this album sure as heck succeeded in bringing a little bit of the old Quo spirit back and if that's what they manage to do in this time and at this age then I think they did a damn good job. Of course the songs are not another Roll over lay down or Mystery song or whatever. But the music reminds enough of what Status Quo has done in earlier years for me and that's what matters to me. I am just glad we didn't get another PR or something !
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Post by Gaz on Oct 28, 2019 13:33:57 GMT
Reading all the discussions it makes me think of all the feelings and thoughts I have concerning this band. There was a time that there was "The mighty Quo"...at one point that got lost and never could return either. I kept following the band despite quite a lot of dissapointments from them along the way. Why ? Because they simply were something very special to me in the later seventies and early eighties. In all the years that followed I have gotten to know and appreciate loads of other artists and bands and some managed to touch the same feelings Quo once did back then. But BECAUSE they once touched those snares in me I kept following them. And yep, as a fan of primarely the 70-81 period plus a couple of albums in later years, I can only say that I am happy with this album. OIf course it's not "The Mighty Quo" ! How could it ever be with only one original member left ? How could it still sound the same as 40 years ago ? Music and bands change over time. And while I look different at things then I did back then amd have found lots and lots of other music that touches me in some way, this album sure as heck succeeded in bringing a little bit of the old Quo spirit back and if that's what they manage to do in this time and at this age then I think they did a damn good job. Of course the songs are not another Roll over lay down or Mystery song or whatever. But the music reminds enough of what Status Quo has done in earlier years for me and that's what matters to me. I am just glad we didn't get another PR or something ! Mate I totally understand your post and I’d also like to add that, in my opinion, the magic we’re all missing here is the excitement of youth. The Quo that unspokenwords is talking about is loooong gone. Im only guessing but the majority of Quo fans on this MB would be 50 plus. Francis Alan John Andrew in their 70s! Who’d ever thought that day would come but anyway...Cmon guys good health to you all and good ol’12 bar blues is alive n well... rock on.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Oct 29, 2019 15:58:08 GMT
[/quote]Im only guessing but the majority of Quo fans on this MB would be 50 plus. [/quote]
I'm a baby at only 49 😁👍
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Post by whoaskedyou on Oct 29, 2019 17:27:57 GMT
It is a funny old game is it not. Deep down many of us long for the raw Quo of the seventies and especially the four guys that took of through 1972 to 1981. Having really got into Quo around 78/79 I would consider myself to have been fanatical back them and going forward into the eighties. They have been my favourite band. I am no longer fanatical in the sense of buying product, seeing the current band live or listening on every word or paper article.
That said this latest album is a good effort and as the original poster has stated it comes after the death of Rick and the poor efforts of Bula and Acoustic filler albums.
Whilst I have enjoyed it I do wonder if it had followed straight after Quid Pro Quo whether there would be quite the same buzz about it. I seem to remember there was a good vibe about QPQ but not sure it has waned a little now. In some respects Backbone to me is a heavier Thirsty Work and that is loathed by many on here.
There are always good tracks on most Quo albums throughout the years albeit not the heights of the earlier works.
Pleased they a enjoying some positive reviews at present and good luck to them. Don't feel guilty if you are getting back into the current band it is your choice.
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Post by cactuspete on Nov 29, 2019 23:34:00 GMT
It's a huge shame that the ff fell out and couldn't work together as a team.
Just imagine had they been able to get on together after 35 years plus.
They could carry on making albums like piledriver or hello.
Carry on playing a fast paced live set.
Fuck me peeps times change.
Move with it.
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Post by Railroad17 on Nov 30, 2019 14:45:10 GMT
I liked 3 or 4 songs on Backbone,a huge amount since Perfect Remedy,I thought they were really lively at Hyde Park. That's it.
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Post by daipembs on Nov 30, 2019 21:23:51 GMT
Really happy for you. For myself it cannot be Status Quo, full stop, and since Rick died especially any chance of Status Quo again has forever ended. The current band are a tribute act of which I am not a fan, with a legal title to use the name, and not any thing more than that. As a guitarist and someone who has actually looked up Richie and his career with Raid etc., I don't think he is any thing special at all, not that he should be really, but I think some people need too get realistic in their assessments/views. No interest in seeing them, and their recordings are just not what I would want to listen to (and no I am not seeking the band to recreate the Frantic Four). I would not say Backbone is awful but after a listen I did not hear anything that I personally wanted to own or listen to again and certainly nothing that came close to what Status Quo did (and this would not be relevant if they didn't invite comparison by calling themselves Status Quo). I simply wish they would call themselves some other name and good luck to them then and those that want to follow the, but I know I will not be one of them. To be honest the whole thing of 'fans' 'moving on' and thinking Richie is the new messiah etc., and the new album the best thing since... (probably Piledriver given the way some talk) I find TOTALLY incredulous/unbelievable (but then again I know that these discussion sites involve only a handful of people examining their anal passages, so not really representative of any thing). Kinda ironic these days that we have Quo fans knocking Richie when for most of their career even in the 70's it was the public at large that were taking the piss out of Quo. How times change, eh. ☹️
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Post by quomaster on Dec 6, 2019 5:49:06 GMT
I, like others, have no qualms with people having an opinion that this is not "their" Quo. What I don't comprehend is why they feel the need to keep telling everyone over and over again, on any thread where the current version is praised. WE GET IT!
I'm not even going to attempt to read the "Who is More Quo" thread!
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