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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Apr 6, 2018 19:17:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 19:49:10 GMT
Some musicians are great drummers, some are just totally natural, Charlie Watts and John Coghlan are the latter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 20:37:41 GMT
A master at work.
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Apr 7, 2018 8:14:40 GMT
I am no musician but always admired how Spud always had so few drums without the OTT set ups of others - no frills ....at 28 secs in I do however wish he would hit that big noddle that pokes his head into the set
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Post by Gaz on Apr 7, 2018 11:23:08 GMT
Some musicians are great drummers, some are just totally natural, Charlie Watts and John Coghlan are the latter. Absolutely agree and the way Francis poured cold water over Johns 2013 reunion tour effort offered another insight of Frames character. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 11:30:14 GMT
Gaz I was disgusted at his comments on John's playing then, for a guy who hadn't toured seriously in over 30 years he did an amazing job, I was in the audience at that first gig in Manchester and then later at Hammersmith Ode and the second John started playing that old Quo sound was back, his playing is absolutely integral to that sound.
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Post by Railroad17 on Apr 7, 2018 17:26:51 GMT
Gaz I was disgusted at his comments on John's playing then, for a guy who hadn't toured seriously in over 30 years he did an amazing job, I was in the audience at that first gig in Manchester and then later at Hammersmith Ode and the second John started playing that old Quo sound was back, his playing is absolutely integral to that sound. It always surprises me when people point out the perceived technical weakness in JC's drumming.He was 'the' drummer in Status Quo and the only one who ever had any input musically..it was never the same when he was sacked. |
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Apr 7, 2018 18:51:35 GMT
Lord Spud
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Apr 7, 2018 20:19:56 GMT
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 8, 2018 9:58:22 GMT
Spud's drumming isn't integral to the Quo Sound in my life, for the simple reason that he left shortly before I "joined" so I never saw him play live, but what I see here is a veteran drummer giving one of my favourite songs a serious amount of welly without going bananas. I don't know if that makes him a master or not, but it'll do me. I don't need a Ginger or a Bonzo in Quo, it wouldn't work.
Francis should not have made negative comments about Spud's drumming in public. But Francis has had so much bad negativity from (some) fans over the years that it never surprises me now when he's negative. He never used to be negative about other bandmembers in public.
PS Sadly I've never got on with Ian Paice (drumming, I mean, I don't know him personally) but everyone I know who plays drums says Paice is the technician's technician.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Apr 8, 2018 12:56:38 GMT
He who makes the bed must sleep in it, and the worship of the loafer man happens just an url away...  |
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Post by unspokenwords on Apr 8, 2018 14:12:41 GMT
A clear demonstration of how essential John was to the Status Quo sound. He provided the drive and energy and had his very own style that no one else has been able to replicate.
He should, in my opinion, have received a credit on all the Quo songs for writing, as he added to the songs in an artistic way as a musician which drummers seldom do.
The ONE and ONLY Status Quo drummer.
...and what a band! Sadly never to be again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 14:41:23 GMT
A clear demonstration of how essential John was to the Status Quo sound. He provided the drive and energy and had his very own style that no one else has been able to replicate. He should, in my opinion, have received a credit on all the Quo songs for writing, as he added to the songs in an artistic way as a musician which drummers seldom do. The ONE and ONLY Status Quo drummer. ...and what a band! Sadly never to be again. Exactly! Not to be confused with speed and hitting the hell out of a drumkit as was somebody else's style. |
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Post by gav on Apr 12, 2018 23:01:20 GMT
A clear demonstration of how essential John was to the Status Quo sound. He provided the drive and energy and had his very own style that no one else has been able to replicate. He should, in my opinion, have received a credit on all the Quo songs for writing, as he added to the songs in an artistic way as a musician which drummers seldom do. The ONE and ONLY Status Quo drummer. ...and what a band! Sadly never to be again. Exactly! Not to be confused with speed and hitting the hell out of a drumkit as was somebody else's style. I'm guessing you mean Jeff Rich.. he had what i can only think of as an "uptight" drumming style in Quo, very rigid and precise with no flair, fluidity, and little imagination. Machine like. Quo's earthiness was long gone by then of course, replaced by the technologies of the day, but Jeff's drumming had no dynamics, no humanness, just one setting, over-exuberance and clinical precision. Sorry Jeff! If John Coghlan WASN'T in Status Quo, and all the stigma that goes with that, would he have been hailed as a Bonham or a Baker? |
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Post by kiwipom on Apr 13, 2018 10:10:20 GMT
John Coghlan will probably never win any prizes for being a technical drummer or a tuition video type of drummer.
What John had in the Quo of pre-81 was charisma, style and character.
Whenever I describe that FF sound of pre-81 I usually use words like “swing”, “steady and confident but almost lazy and faltering” and most importantly the word “swagger” – because that’s the key word
- John's style added a “swagger” to Quo’s sound that made it the Quo sound
- after he left, it wasn't the same, but the swagger in the Quo sound clung on to some degree with Pete Kircher
- the swagger was lost completely after that
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