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Post by kiwipom on Apr 15, 2017 12:33:17 GMT
Sadly, another one for the small alpine village - "Uttascheitt" Quirky wine-slurping "geezer" tries to do a budget Rage Against The Machine?........ no ta
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 15, 2017 15:32:22 GMT
Sadly, another one for the small alpine village - "Uttascheitt" Quirky wine-slurping "geezer" tries to do a budget Rage Against The Machine?........ no ta Most of his stuff has a RATM or Queens of the Stone Age thing going on. A pale imitation, but hey, I've recorded zero songs.
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Post by curiousgirl on Apr 15, 2017 16:04:11 GMT
For those like me who don't know this music genre. I found this and see what they're talking about. Similar but not a copy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 17:15:39 GMT
Lyrically, melodically, vocally and productionwise unremittingly awful. Hi All, To be honest it's better than some of the Crap CQ have released over the years and that is not a disrespect to CQ just plain speaking sadly and really shows that something or someone within the Quo household was stunting creativity....
Geoff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 19:03:24 GMT
Lyrically, melodically, vocally and productionwise unremittingly awful. Hi All, To be honest it's better than some of the Crap CQ have released over the years and that is not a disrespect to CQ just plain speaking sadly and really shows that something or someone within the Quo household was stunting creativity....
Geoff.
You make a really interesting point, is there a point in your opinion when the creativity in the band died or has it been a gradual decline into the mundane? I'd also be interested to know from people on here what they consider to be the last truly creative album.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 19:41:22 GMT
Hi All, I think it is a gradual decline with FR preferring initially the Pop/Rock output and like some have mentioned becoming entertainment rather than a true rocking gig band. Also like many said the reunion gigs just showed to me the old Quo was still their and much better than the CQ that followed the break up along with output.
Having said this like I have said before there are probably lots of factors that have lead CQ down this rd with that output. Amongst the crap their have been glimmers of the old Quo rearing it's head every now and then, but it seemed to be firmly put back in it's place when happening. Whose to blame ? it's hard to say really, again many factors are involved and to be honest we as fans just get the back end of what actually goes on behind the scenes.
We are not part of the inside workings of the Quo machine as such. Like I just said lots of factors involved but FR does deserve the majority of criticism regarding there playing and output as he could have so easily kept Quo on the rock path they started out on.
Would they have remained like they have to present ? who knows but I would think the fans would be more tolerant of him if this would have happened. Sadly he chose another rd and CQ pop/rock/entertainment is what we got to many a disappointed fan frustration. Only to say which does not make sense when you consider from what gig goers have said, they play a couple from whatever new album of the time but the main stay are the rockers we all fell in love, the transformation from a great rock band to an also ran now reminds me of CCFC to what they have become....
Geoff.
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Post by Victor on Apr 15, 2017 19:50:27 GMT
Ummm... not for me...I think it's horrible
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Post by kiwipom on Apr 16, 2017 1:07:49 GMT
You make a really interesting point, is there a point in your opinion when the creativity in the band died or has it been a gradual decline into the mundane? I'd also be interested to know from people on here what they consider to be the last truly creative album. Although I like JS a lot - I think WYW was the last truly "creative" album - of course all the subsequent albums had to have creativity just to write and arrange the new material, but for me WYW was trying to "say something" as a cohesive whole. I'd agree with that. Just Supposin and Never Too Late were quite good ( and in my view superior to anything Quo have produced since ). but... Whatever You Want was probably the last album that could stand alongside the golden era of the Dog, Piledriver, Hello, Quo, On The Level, Blue for you albums - it had a "quality throughout" and a collective creative band vibe. Although it had a more modern production/sound, I'd certainly put it in that category. With that album Quo were potentially approaching their peak as a commercial entity in the public's conscience, still highly revered as a live act and their soul was still firmly with their denim-clad Quo army in small/medium theatre gigs - perhaps if Quo's commercial thinkers hadn't moved to the glossy "Rick in the spotlight" approach for the singles, we may have seen Who asked you? Shady Lady or Runaway as singles - who knows?
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Post by charliechops on Apr 16, 2017 6:45:06 GMT
Lyrically, melodically, vocally and productionwise unremittingly awful. Hi All, To be honest it's better than some of the Crap CQ have released over the years and that is not a disrespect to CQ just plain speaking sadly and really shows that something or someone within the Quo household was stunting creativity....
Geoff.
Hey Geoff , With my tongue stuck firmly to my cheek , are you comparing somebody to George Harrison and somebody else as a cross between Paul and John ?😉
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 16:33:43 GMT
Hi All, Music is quite simple to me I either like what I hear or I don't, no need to keep banging on or looking to deeply into whatever track. I get that for many Quo fans having invested themselves fully into the band in whatever incarnation it's a big deal, but I fear if you start taking apart and scrutinising each and every track you lose site of the music for what it is and the listening experience, just enjoy what you like to hear and skip the tracks you don't simple! well that's how it is to my mind which isn't very much....
Geoff.
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Post by wishing4oldquo on Apr 17, 2017 20:07:08 GMT
Ok, no real surprises in the responses - guess I put my fishing rod out to some degree...I never said it was a classic, but it's got energy, and I think non-Quo-rock fans would be a little less dismissive (i.e this board is likely to host the harshest critics). As for comments about the influences, well those influences get a big tick from me in comparison to the stuff our dear Francis veers towards. The vocals......Quo reality check please - have you listened to Tongue Tied? It still feels wrong to criticise anything Rick did (he was a rock legend, and I won't accept anything less from anyone), for his vocals on latter day quo recordings, so I won't.......
I am hardly a huge fan of RR....this weekend was the first time I have heard the track, but, I was able to hear it for what it was, a hard rock song with more going for it in comparison to a significant proportion of latter day Quo. Maybe that says more about the latter than the former.
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Post by rockonquo on Apr 18, 2017 10:43:22 GMT
Don't mind some of Rhino's Revenge tunes, don't like this one tho. As FW pointed out like the music but don't like the lyrics, they should of picked 'one note blues', great tune that one.
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 18, 2017 11:10:20 GMT
Ok, no real surprises in the responses - guess I put my fishing rod out to some degree...I never said it was a classic, but it's got energy, and I think non-Quo-rock fans would be a little less dismissive (i.e this board is likely to host the harshest critics). As for comments about the influences, well those influences get a big tick from me in comparison to the stuff our dear Francis veers towards. The vocals......Quo reality check please - have you listened to Tongue Tied? It still feels wrong to criticise anything Rick did (he was a rock legend, and I won't accept anything less from anyone), for his vocals on latter day quo recordings, so I won't....... I am hardly a huge fan of RR....this weekend was the first time I have heard the track, but, I was able to hear it for what it was, a hard rock song with more going for it in comparison to a significant proportion of latter day Quo. Maybe that says more about the latter than the former. I applaud Rhino for at least trying, but the bottom line is his talent is limited, many of his 'better' tunes are rip offs of others. I also believe that the FF had limited talent as well, in that they were incredible at what they did, but as soon as they tried to divert from the formula, it rarely worked.
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 18, 2017 11:17:42 GMT
I should point out I don't mean talentless. He's a good bass player, and it's only my opinion.
Perhaps his most 'famous' Quo song is Bad News and it is utter dross. Others like it, so what do I know anyway.
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Post by ablues on Apr 18, 2017 11:24:54 GMT
Ok, no real surprises in the responses - guess I put my fishing rod out to some degree...I never said it was a classic, but it's got energy, and I think non-Quo-rock fans would be a little less dismissive (i.e this board is likely to host the harshest critics). As for comments about the influences, well those influences get a big tick from me in comparison to the stuff our dear Francis veers towards. The vocals......Quo reality check please - have you listened to Tongue Tied? It still feels wrong to criticise anything Rick did (he was a rock legend, and I won't accept anything less from anyone), for his vocals on latter day quo recordings, so I won't....... I am hardly a huge fan of RR....this weekend was the first time I have heard the track, but, I was able to hear it for what it was, a hard rock song with more going for it in comparison to a significant proportion of latter day Quo. Maybe that says more about the latter than the former. I applaud Rhino for at least trying, but the bottom line is his talent is limited, many of his 'better' tunes are rip offs of others. I also believe that the FF had limited talent as well, in that they were incredible at what they did, but as soon as they tried to divert from the formula, it rarely worked.Really, so where did they divert from the formula? Living On An Island, A Year, Lonely Man, Who Am I, Too Close to the Ground ? I wonder doh
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