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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 16:26:14 GMT
The third generation (the casuals) isn't new - it's always been there. One reason I think fans have become frustrated is because at a time when Quo's output is supposed to have improved (1999 onwards), the set has become more and more static. During the 80s and particularly the 90s, with the band being reduced to cheap stunts, it was perhaps seen that the band were fighting for survival, therefore the band just being able to play a gig was enough, and the set being changed was a bonus. Now the band are on a better financial foot and more highly regarded in the media, perhaps the band don't feel the need to please the hardcore? I can see why, as when ITABW, BEL and OB have been added to the set, they've went down like a damp squib. The casuals are not new, but they have not been the dominant element of the audiences up till this time. That is what was meant by a third generation audience
The band should have been drawing on their own substantial back catalogue and showing initiative and invention there, rather than imitating the FF reunion set. That was bound to lead to lesser favourable comparisons , coming so soon after the reunions and especially in view of the poignancy of the return of the FF after being apart so long.
Taking the initiative from the FF reunion would be an ideal thing to do in terms of attitude and lack of over rehearsed and samey stage show, it doesn't mean however literally using the same songs as them!
That attitude and devil may care approach should have been rooted instead into fresh rock songs of their own. There are no excuses - there are more to choose from than a stick can be waved at.
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Post by Revolter on Dec 5, 2015 19:35:36 GMT
Your point about the substantial back catalogue is a good one, and yes, Quo could have been more imaginative in terms of the setlist, but the problem they have is that much of the supposed better output that fans are crying out for to be included is infact overrated, generic tosh - IMO. The only tracks that amount to anything (again IMO) are YCR, TT and DTG. But no matter what was put into the set, there'd be fans wanting changes the following year. You can't win.
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 5, 2015 19:48:54 GMT
The third generation (the casuals) isn't new - it's always been there. One reason I think fans have become frustrated is because at a time when Quo's output is supposed to have improved (1999 onwards), the set has become more and more static. During the 80s and particularly the 90s, with the band being reduced to cheap stunts, it was perhaps seen that the band were fighting for survival, therefore the band just being able to play a gig was enough, and the set being changed was a bonus. Now the band are on a better financial foot and more highly regarded in the media, perhaps the band don't feel the need to please the hardcore? I can see why, as when ITABW, BEL and OB have been added to the set, they've went down like a damp squib. The casuals are not new, but they have not been the dominant element of the audiences up till this time. That is what was meant by a third generation audience
The band should have been drawing on their own substantial back catalogue and showing initiative and invention there, rather than imitating the FF reunion set. That was bound to lead to lesser favourable comparisons , coming so soon after the reunions and especially in view of the poignancy of the return of the FF after being apart so long.
Taking the initiative from the FF reunion would be an ideal thing to do in terms of attitude and lack of over rehearsed and samey stage show, it doesn't mean however literally using the same songs as them!
That attitude and devil may care approach should have been rooted instead into fresh rock songs of their own. There are no excuses - there are more to choose from than a stick can be waved at.
For me the casuals gave been the main stay of the audience since the 90s if not before.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 20:07:55 GMT
Is Rossi's band on tour ?
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Favourite Quo Album: Piledriver
Favourite other bands.: Neil Young and Crazy Horse, AC/DC, Lynyrd Skynyrd.
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Post by accidentprone on Dec 5, 2015 22:08:39 GMT
I was at Aberdeen gig the other night. Only went as I pass the venue on my commute home from work. It was only 2/3rds full in what is already a relatively small arena type venue. The seats on both sides were pretty empty ! And that's with them not having been to Aberdeen for a while. Stale set list aside they sounded good, loud and reasonably heavy. BFM in particular stood out. However, there were terrible low points such as The Wanderer being back in and BOTE, CUOY and The Oriental (just a dire, dire song) still being in. Very few hard core Quo fans, mainly casual punters who did not have a clue what was in the set list and only got excited when ITAN came on.......in summary despite them sounding much better than I expected I did not enjoy it that much. Pale imitation of the real Quo and the stale set list. The FF genie has been let back out of the bottle and nothing else will now do.....
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Post by paul70 on Dec 6, 2015 16:52:24 GMT
Is Rossi's band on tour ? I think when this is over (quo), Rossi do some solo touring like 'one step at time' was. There might be an old and interesting material. Not bad thing at all. Its hard to be a Rossi eh, it seems.... you can' t please everyone truly. I was ten in 81'with Ntl, yes put money for albums, c-tapes, concert tickets since that. Quo is not main thing in my life, nope -but there is more happy memories from the gigs than disappointments. Set was this or that.. Anyway, i respect him . Again:) No Rossi. No Quo
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Post by jaynieeee on Dec 6, 2015 22:57:38 GMT
Your point about the substantial back catalogue is a good one, and yes, Quo could have been more imaginative in terms of the setlist, but the problem they have is that much of the supposed better output that fans are crying out for to be included is infact overrated, generic tosh - IMO. The only tracks that amount to anything (again IMO) are YCR, TT and DTG. But no matter what was put into the set, there'd be fans wanting changes the following year. You can't win. What's wrong with expecting a few set changes EVERY year?
The major hits really have to be played but there is plenty that could be dropped and another couple put in without the "casual" fan being much aware. I was fed up with the Heavy Traffic still being in the set for years, (in my opinion) it wasn't a fantastic album and they definitely had better songs in their back catalogue.
I would be disappointed not to get "Nights in White Satin" "Forever Autumn" at a Moody Blues gig and as for Elton John he has so many hits he has to include he plays for over two hours to include new and other old material - although for the "Songs From The West Coast" I seem to remember he more or less did that album (happy to be told I'm wrong as it was a while ago). All* the artists from the 60s/70s/80s that are still and have a big back catalogue know they have to play their major hits/famous songs, otherwise fans (including "hard core ones" would feel short changed but they still manage to ring the changes - and you don't know, more or less, word for word what the main guy is going to say through out the gig.
* ok - Van Morrison doesn't play "Brown Eyed Girl" (we know why) and Hawkwind don't play "Silver Machine" (or at least not in the last few times I've been to see them) and yes, I feel a bit miffed
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