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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 19:08:12 GMT
Does Andy sing Calling the Shots? If so I wish he had sung more on Quo albums - nice voice - bit proggy. Also wish he had been given a bass instead of the keys in 1986 - then there'd've been fewer "Theme Tune from Sorry" and "Catchphrase Mr Chips" moments. (as demonstrated by Calling the Shots itself below). Hi All, Carl, There is somebody else on the track I can hear rick with it must be Andy, anyway at one point they almost break into Genesis territory..... 
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Post by wolfman on Mar 12, 2021 21:50:18 GMT
Anybody?
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Post by philpayola on Mar 12, 2021 22:28:37 GMT
Yeah, it's Andy alright. Unfortunately it's probably the worst lead vocal on a Quo track (give or take Restless) which in itself is surely one of the poorest songs they ever released. That's not to say he's not a talented musician and vocalist of course, just that this tune does not work on any level.
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Post by roquer on Mar 13, 2021 9:32:11 GMT
The most present voice I think it's Andy. The song was written by him, it makes sense.
On the last chorus I can hear Rick voice singing the harmony too, maybe he is present on all the chorus or on the whole song, but veeeery low in the mix.
One thing that I was thinking in this particular song. According to a source, don't remember which one (maybe Rockers Rollin' or the liner notes of the 2006 remaster of 1+9+8+2), the song was recorded in june '81. John was still in the band (even they just finish the Never Too Late Tour), but the drums are a drum machine (just sounds like the whole 1+9+8+2 album). Am I right? The bass player could be Andy? Doesn't seem Alan.
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Post by mortified on Mar 13, 2021 9:49:39 GMT
I've never paid all that much attention to this song. I actually read about it in the book "Tuned to the Music of Status Quo" by Dave Oxley before I heard it. He called it a "...mediocre keyboard dominated ditty...."
I'd been after one of the foreign Jealousy single releases for almost 20 years (on which this song first appeared) but had never managed to get hold of one. I still haven't as it happens.
I don't mind it, although it's hardly a Quo classic. I certainly prefer it to Jealousy. Surprised it never made it on to one of Andy's solo albums although, to be fair, he never released any after 1978 and I've no idea when it was written.
The predominant vocals are from Andy. You can compare them to his solo stuff from the 70's.
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Post by sqcollector on Mar 13, 2021 12:00:41 GMT
It's Andy singing the main vocals and the backing vocals.
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Post by sqcollector on Mar 13, 2021 12:19:58 GMT
The most present voice I think it's Andy. The song was written by him, it makes sense. On the last chorus I can hear Rick voice singing the harmony too, maybe he is present on all the chorus or on the whole song, but veeeery low in the mix. One thing that I was thinking in this particular song. According to a source, don't remember which one (maybe Rockers Rollin' or the liner notes of the 2006 remaster of 1+9+8+2), the song was recorded in june '81. John was still in the band (even they just finish the Never Too Late Tour), but the drums are a drum machine (just sounds like the whole 1+9+8+2 album). Am I right? The bass player could be Andy? Doesn't seem Alan. Doesn't sound like a drum machine to me. First, the hi hat hits and timbre are not homogeneous, you can hear this at the start of the song. Nowadays, maybe this is possible (in terms of out of beat, today is possible, yes), but back then, I doubt it would be as realistic. Second, the drums are not quantized. That is, if you grab a portion of the song and align it with another portion of the song, you'll see the drum hits do not align perfectly. You could say that the song just speeds up or slows down and that would be fair. But the drums don't misalign by a proportional ratio, so they seem played by a human. But could be the transfer speeding up/slowing down on some parts or poorly edited that would cause the misalign. Third, at the end, the drums start some kind of a solo. If it was a drum machine, I doubt they'd go for that. Especially since some hits are out of tempo/beat. The drum fills throughout the song also seem to delay or speed up a bit, which is sign of human playing. If you the second point I mentioned with Jealousy and invert the phase of the of one of the parts you're aligning, you'll see you can even remove the bass drum and the snare, because they align perfectly. Confirming Jealousy uses a drum machine. |
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Post by quovadis123 on Mar 13, 2021 12:22:05 GMT
Sounded to me like frame awful song
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Post by mortified on Mar 13, 2021 15:32:36 GMT
Except it's a Parfitt/Bown composition. Principally Andy presumably seeing he sang lead on it. Would it have fitted on 1+9+8+2? Possibly. There were one or two on there that were candidates for exclusion or replacement  |
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Post by matt on Mar 13, 2021 16:42:24 GMT
Surely this is an outtake from a solo project though. There are literally no guitars on it
As bad as anything that followed it. Awful.
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Post by sqcollector on Mar 13, 2021 17:05:46 GMT
Surely this is an outtake from a solo project though. There are literally no guitars on it As bad as anything that followed it. Awful. There are guitars on it. Here it is, enhanced, during the first verse, for example we.tl/t-8Y3rrqfwZFI like the song and I like it's a one-off in their repertoire. I really like that synth sound for the solo ahah |
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Post by gerh on Mar 13, 2021 19:12:24 GMT
...I'd been after one of the foreign Jealousy single releases for almost 20 years (on which this song first appeared) but had never managed to get hold of one. I still haven't as it happens... I have one - the 'Made in Ireland' one, bought it when it came out here; dunno why I've kept it for so long tho! |
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Post by viza on Mar 13, 2021 19:53:17 GMT
The most present voice I think it's Andy. The song was written by him, it makes sense. On the last chorus I can hear Rick voice singing the harmony too, maybe he is present on all the chorus or on the whole song, but veeeery low in the mix. One thing that I was thinking in this particular song. According to a source, don't remember which one (maybe Rockers Rollin' or the liner notes of the 2006 remaster of 1+9+8+2), the song was recorded in june '81. John was still in the band (even they just finish the Never Too Late Tour), but the drums are a drum machine (just sounds like the whole 1+9+8+2 album). Am I right? The bass player could be Andy? Doesn't seem Alan. Doesn't sound like a drum machine to me. First, the hi hat hits and timbre are not homogeneous, you can hear this at the start of the song. Nowadays, maybe this is possible (in terms of out of beat, today is possible, yes), but back then, I doubt it would be as realistic. Second, the drums are not quantized. That is, if you grab a portion of the song and align it with another portion of the song, you'll see the drum hits do not align perfectly. You could say that the song just speeds up or slows down and that would be fair. But the drums don't misalign by a proportional ratio, so they seem played by a human. But could be the transfer speeding up/slowing down on some parts or poorly edited that would cause the misalign. Third, at the end, the drums start some kind of a solo. If it was a drum machine, I doubt they'd go for that. Especially since some hits are out of tempo/beat. The drum fills throughout the song also seem to delay or speed up a bit, which is sign of human playing. If you the second point I mentioned with Jealousy and invert the phase of the of one of the parts you're aligning, you'll see you can even remove the bass drum and the snare, because they align perfectly. Confirming Jealousy uses a drum machine. Agree, this is not a drum machine. But I don't think it's John either, not his style. Can it be Francis playing? |
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Post by gav on Mar 13, 2021 22:15:27 GMT
Would be interested to get confirmation of that "June '81" date as it sounds a lot like Pete's bouncy style to me, and even has the drum sound of much of "1+9+8+2". Agree it could be Francis though, or even Andy. Will we ever know?
Like bits of the song though, like the unusual chord changes from verses to choruses. Quite a lot of chords in this one, more than three anyway!
It's just that bass/drums combo, just a bit clunky and overly simple. Guitar could be cranked up a bit. Sounds like Rick's tone and rhythm style.
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Post by roquer on Mar 13, 2021 23:36:03 GMT
Would be interested to get confirmation of that "June '81" date as it sounds a lot like Pete's bouncy style to me, and even has the drum sound of much of "1+9+8+2". Agree it could be Francis though, or even Andy. Will we ever know? Like bits of the song though, like the unusual chord changes from verses to choruses. Quite a lot of chords in this one, more than three anyway! It's just that bass/drums combo, just a bit clunky and overly simple. Guitar could be cranked up a bit. Sounds like Rick's tone and rhythm style. To me, it always sounded from the same sessions of the 1+9+8+2 album than a one off the previous year. I'm trying to find where I read the June date, it wasn't on the liner notes of 1+9+8+2 as I checked them. Could be wrong thought. Thanks for the info sqcollector. Really explanatory, even with the snippet. I can hear that it really is a human playing the drums...Whatever human was |
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