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Post by rossiswaistcoat on Mar 1, 2023 11:25:53 GMT
I've stumbled across this song and it triggered a memory of francis saying how much he loved it, and that he grew up with this style music in the backround
I've never seen much discussion about it but wonder how influential it was upon the overall Quo sound. I think it helps explain why Quo shuffle along in a different way to other rock and blues rock bands, who have taken their shuffles exclusively from the blues. I would guess that Quo's use of jigs and reels comes from Francis and his love of trad Italian music
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Post by rossiswaistcoat on Mar 1, 2023 11:28:46 GMT
Not sure the link worked , it's "Ce la luna"
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 1, 2023 11:32:37 GMT
Not sure the link worked , it's "Ce la luna" It works for me. And I can hear the shuffle. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 1, 2023 11:33:28 GMT
Francis has two cultural roots. Italian and Irish. His mum was from Northern Ireland.
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Post by mortified on Mar 1, 2023 14:13:33 GMT
I think a lot of what Francis says, like many of us, is probably in retrospect. When he's been sitting thinking about it or mulling over what may have influenced him. Hey Joe is also one he always mentions these days of course.
All We Wanna Do (Polly) is the track he quotes most often when citing the Italian influence. The connection between the jigs and the Irish (or Scottish in the case of Burning Bridges) is fairly obvious. Not a great leap, shall we say.
But there was always more than Francis and I'm sure Rick didn't cite anything like Italian folk. So it would have been a combination or a hybrid of a number of things at work. From Fleetwood Mac and Chicken Shack to Papa Piccolino to Acker Bilk. It keeps changing the more he thinks about it.
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Post by dennis on Mar 1, 2023 14:33:47 GMT
What the Italian folk?
I know nothing of Italian folk music & so my immediate thought on the clip is "How representative is this of Italian folk?"
Then I wonder whether I'd actually want to know the answer!
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 1, 2023 15:06:53 GMT
What the Italian folk? I know nothing of Italian folk music & so my immediate thought on the clip is "How representative is this of Italian folk?" Then I wonder whether I'd actually want to know the answer! Good call Dennis. I dare you to listen to track too on this clip. It's actually charming but I hear echoes of BB.... A very brief YT trawl brings up much more lyrical folk music than the shuffles Francis loves. But I guess they also account for his love of melody. |
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Post by dennis on Mar 1, 2023 16:11:14 GMT
What the Italian folk? I know nothing of Italian folk music & so my immediate thought on the clip is "How representative is this of Italian folk?" Then I wonder whether I'd actually want to know the answer! Good call Dennis. I dare you to listen to track too on this clip. It's actually charming but I hear echoes of BB.... A very brief YT trawl brings up much more lyrical folk music than the shuffles Francis loves. But I guess they also account for his love of melody. Ta for that, cg - I think! As it happens, I recognised the first 3 tracks & the next 2 sounded like tunes that might have been rejected form a possible spaghetti western soundtrack for being a tad too spritely. The last one I'd find hard to categorise  Now I'm tempted to book a table at Carluccio’s! |
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Post by quovadis on Mar 1, 2023 16:15:43 GMT
I can see where he got the Riverside 🦆 riff now
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Post by quomaster on Mar 2, 2023 0:48:55 GMT
Didn't he once say the music at the family gathering at the start of "The Godfather" was the sort he was alluding to?
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Post by rossiswaistcoat on Mar 3, 2023 12:42:50 GMT
Beyond the shuffle, I think it may explain Quo's consistent use use of happy major chords. I can think of no other rock band like this
Steamhammer juniors - minor chords. Quo's version with happy majors
Same Roadhouse Blues
Chicken Shack and Fleetwood Mac - the main two blues influences on Quo, routinely used blues / minor chords. Francis clearly was deliberate in not doing so. And I'm sure it was Francis
Other than unspoken words I can't think of any 70's Quo that strays beyond happy chords in standard tuning.
These things may have added to the lack of respect given to the band, but they certainly were a big part of creating a unique and instantly recognisable sound
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Post by railroad007 on Mar 3, 2023 20:47:37 GMT
I think it's obvious with band members named John Don Coghleoni, Riccardo Parfittolini and Alberto Lancastobolognese with help from Roberto Youngzini.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 5, 2023 17:23:08 GMT
Beyond the shuffle, I think it may explain Quo's consistent use use of happy major chords. I can think of no other rock band like this Steamhammer juniors - minor chords. Quo's version with happy majors Same Roadhouse Blues Chicken Shack and Fleetwood Mac - the main two blues influences on Quo, routinely used blues / minor chords. Francis clearly was deliberate in not doing so. And I'm sure it was Francis Other than unspoken words I can't think of any 70's Quo that strays beyond happy chords in standard tuning. These things may have added to the lack of respect given to the band, but they certainly were a big part of creating a unique and instantly recognisable sound This was exactly what I thought after reading this thread (Alan even mentioned it in an interview - "we commercialized the blues"). It's certainly not typical for British blues bands. Somewhat ironically, I think it may be more common in the US rock scene, since there are quite a few Italian Americans. |
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Mar 16, 2023 14:25:28 GMT
Then think of Roadhouse Blues - minor chords, Jim Morrison but otherwise, tump te tump te tump (in that case) in the best possible way.
Otherwise I don't have a lot of affection for that nursery rhyme type of music. I love the "second stanza" Though. It reminds of of "second verse - same as the first!" in Im' Henery the 8th I am", which goes to show I do like silly songs really.
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