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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Feb 16, 2023 1:53:35 GMT
Who thought it was a good idea to put the little bit of dialogue at the start of the track? It's pointless being there, and spoils that remaster for me, I could understand it if the whole CD was different mixes but not when it's the standard mix with that tagged on.
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Post by charles on Feb 16, 2023 6:44:06 GMT
So what you're telling us is that the banter ain't got no purpose?
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 16, 2023 12:12:23 GMT
Who thought it was a good idea to put the little bit of dialogue at the start of the track? It's pointless being there, and spoils that remaster for me, I could understand it if the whole CD was different mixes but not when it's the standard mix with that tagged on. it's because Tim used the original mixed down tapes. That bit of Bernie Frost singing "I've got tears in my ears from lying on my back and crying over you" has just always been snipped. As far as I know, it's present on the multitracks too |
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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Feb 17, 2023 15:21:11 GMT
Who thought it was a good idea to put the little bit of dialogue at the start of the track? It's pointless being there, and spoils that remaster for me, I could understand it if the whole CD was different mixes but not when it's the standard mix with that tagged on. it's because Tim used the original mixed down tapes. That bit of Bernie Frost singing "I've got tears in my ears from lying on my back and crying over you" has just always been snipped. As far as I know, it's present on the multitracks too So the multitracks weren't used for the Andy Pearce remaster? |
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 17, 2023 15:31:20 GMT
it's because Tim used the original mixed down tapes. That bit of Bernie Frost singing "I've got tears in my ears from lying on my back and crying over you" has just always been snipped. As far as I know, it's present on the multitracks too So the multitracks weren't used for the Andy Pearce remaster? Not the multitracks, just 1/4" tape mixdowns of the album. Not a clue what source Andy Pearce used for his remastering |
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Post by sqcollector on Feb 20, 2023 13:08:16 GMT
All versions except the Tim Turan seem to come from the same tapes. The Tim Turan masters seem to use something closer to the master. Probably one of those "DO NOT USE" masters (or the master tapes).
The other versions seem to have a layer of compression applied to them that was common on vinyl production tapes. Just a guess on my part, but there's definitely something different between the Tim Turan's and all of the other versions.
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Post by ant on Feb 20, 2023 15:57:57 GMT
Tim mastered stuff for me many years ago and when I attended that session we discussed his Quo remasters. He left bits of dialogue on the remasters because he thought Quo fans would find it interesting, much as John Eden did with the remix and remaster of RAOTW, though John got even earlier generations of the tracks than Tim or Andy Pearce did.
Tim is a big Quo fan and did what he thought others would like.
He gets some flak for his remastering but he remastered in the style that was common in 2006. Personally, they are my favourite versions of Quo's catalogue. I find Andy Pearce's a little sterile. But that's personal taste and not meant to be insulting to anyone.
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Post by roquer on Feb 24, 2023 11:52:53 GMT
He left bits of dialogue on the remasters because he thought Quo fans would find it interesting Really? I only remembered this. |
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Post by ant on Feb 25, 2023 14:20:21 GMT
He left bits of dialogue on the remasters because he thought Quo fans would find it interesting Really? I only remembered this. There was some stuff on IYCSTH - Long Legged Linda, I think. He could only leave what was supplied, of course. |
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Post by iamcomplaining88 on Feb 25, 2023 16:09:56 GMT
Really? I only remembered this. There was some stuff on IYCSTH - Long Legged Linda, I think. He could only leave what was supplied, of course. That bit of dialogue is on the original anyway, I don't know of any other dialogue added to the albums other than Back To Back. |
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Post by sqcollector on Mar 1, 2023 18:02:51 GMT
He gets some flak for his remastering but he remastered in the style that was common in 2006. Personally, they are my favourite versions of Quo's catalogue. I find Andy Pearce's a little sterile. But that's personal taste and not meant to be insulting to anyone. A shame they are so loud and with some V sounding EQ i most cases. I really think his transfers are the best we have in the digital realm. If he mastered in the digital realm (which I suspect) by transferring the audio from analog tapes to digital without any changes, then there's the possibility to release those master transfers as is. That would be dreamy. Andy Pearce's transfers have dropouts and clicks. And so do the old twofer CDs, a couple other old CDs and, especially, the SHM CDs mastered in Japan (lots of dropouts on these). But I must admit I never listened fully to the Tim Turan remasters. |
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