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Post by thewildone on May 10, 2022 21:31:59 GMT
When did he turn into a wet pop country person?
He destroyed the greatest thing in rock boogie, Quo in the 70s we frigging awesome. If he didn't like the music why didn't he just leave. Somehow his view of the band was only 1 in 4, the other 3 did not agree with his direction, yet he won.......how did that happen??
I''ll guess, Alan in Australia, Rick out of it, and John not one for confrontation.
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Post by curiousgirl on May 10, 2022 21:40:14 GMT
No, he didn't. Francis has always written a wide range of songs.
Do you know their early albums?
These tracks are from their 2nd album Spare Parts, 1969.
Little Miss Nothing, Face Without a Soul and Poor Old Man, all ballads and all written by Francis and Rick
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Post by steveb on May 11, 2022 0:00:40 GMT
there was no way he would of left when the money started rolling in in the 1970s.i guess the success and money were enough to make him stay.
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Post by mortified on May 11, 2022 7:28:22 GMT
People change. Simple as. My musical taste is nowhere near the same as it was in the 70's. I occasionally go back to some of it but I've discarded most of what I ever listened to back then. Francis has always liked country music and catchy pop and has always said so. I don't personally but we can't all like the same things. And he makes the music he now wants to make. He probably made the music he wanted to make in the 70's as well. Like I say, people change. "Rock" fans are snobs. It has always been thus. And I've been as guilty as anyone Rock music is 'serious' music. Anything else is, of course, inferior. Wet pop country? See what I mean? If he changed, it was probably caused by his life experience. The band were constantly being ripped off and they were also drug addled. They needed bailed out. So Francis the rehabilitated businessman eventually kicked in once David Walker had sorted it out. He had the strength of character to do it. And also to keep it going. Hence, The One Show and morning TV rather than Jools Holland or BBC 4. That brings out the snob in me but then no one is perfect
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Post by blagult on May 12, 2022 18:28:56 GMT
Everyone changes. Comes with Age,Life, reality checks. A : Getting pissed then clubbing then back out the following lunchtime session. B; A couple of late afternoon Beers and off home at 7 before the younguns turn out. Then Cup of Tea and a digestive for bed.
My A self in my twenty’s would never have thought I would turn into B but it happened to me and I guess quite a high percentage more of a certain vintage !!
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Post by Victor on May 12, 2022 20:13:38 GMT
People change. Simple as. My musical taste is nowhere near the same as it was in the 70's. I occasionally go back to some of it but I've discarded most of what I ever listened to back then. Francis has always liked country music and catchy pop and has always said so. I don't personally but we can't all like the same things. And he makes the music he now wants to make. He probably made the music he wanted to make in the 70's as well. Like I say, people change. "Rock" fans are snobs. It has always been thus. And I've been as guilty as anyone Rock music is 'serious' music. Anything else is, of course, inferior. Wet pop country? See what I mean? If he changed, it was probably caused by his life experience. The band were constantly being ripped off and they were also drug addled. They needed bailed out. So Francis the rehabilitated businessman eventually kicked in once David Walker had sorted it out. He had the strength of character to do it. And also to keep it going. Hence, The One Show and morning TV rather than Jools Holland or BBC 4. That brings out the snob in me but then no one is perfect Probably about the most realistic view. I still don't think he should have made the insults towards the fans that followed them all those years and all that crap...but to only blame francis for how the band has changed is a bit unrealistic in my view. They all changed and drugs came into the picture and all that and it and they drifted apart from what it originally was. Yea, Francis can say as much as he wants that he doesn't like the music from back then nowadays but he sure liked it at the time and you just have to look at many concerts and such for that.
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Post by matt on May 13, 2022 15:09:44 GMT
Fine fine fine just called.
I listen to music now that I would have hated as a teenager. Jazz and classical mostly
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Post by sincity on May 13, 2022 15:26:00 GMT
Things definitely changed as regards attitude etc with him when he discovered the old `marching powder` however he pretty much always wrote light & shade tracks right through.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on May 13, 2022 17:11:10 GMT
I have come to think that Fran's musical tastes were largely set when he heard "Papa Piccolino". His fondness for boogie in his younger years was probably because they were his young adult years and everyone in their right mind loves boogie at that age. But he really wanted to be an Everley or Jeff Lynne. Trouble is his real talent was for being a rock'n'roll front man. Who knows? Maybe being a one-man musical comedy show will turn out to be what he really wants at this age. If he's good at it, I might relent and go along and see him.
If Francis and Alan had been in accord, being in Australia wouldn'tve mattered a jot. Iron Maiden's Dave Murray has lived in Hawaii since the 1980s, no problem at all. (In fact after that earthquake in Japan in 2011, he invited the whole planeload back for tea.)
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Post by cammythemortonfan on May 13, 2022 17:15:12 GMT
Matt mentioned Fine Fine Fine and around the same time he and Bob wrote I Just Said Goodbye, which emerged on his album with Hannah Rikard.
Francis writes what he writes .
Although I don’t think country is his strength , he had delivered so many enjoyable songs of pop/rock/ blues over the years to keep me happy
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Post by MrWaistcoat on May 21, 2022 16:55:54 GMT
When did he turn into a wet pop country person? He destroyed the greatest thing in rock boogie, Quo in the 70s we frigging awesome. If he didn't like the music why didn't he just leave. Somehow his view of the band was only 1 in 4, the other 3 did not agree with his direction, yet he won.......how did that happen?? I''ll guess, Alan in Australia, Rick out of it, and John not one for confrontation. Perhaps "when did francis view of what SQ should be change...and why?" would be a better question? And clearly it did. There's an interview from 76 where he's talking about playing a Quo album should have the floor shaking. He was talking maybe bringing fans into the studio to make it closer to the live sound. He moved away from this very quickly Somewhere around WSOL seems to be the when, and "chasing more units" seems to be the reason. I think as the 70's became the 80's he was sick of heavy rock n roll and by then disliked the scene, man! By NTL "enough is enough" spoke for itself, and the band was never really heavy again
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Post by 4th Chord on May 22, 2022 14:40:18 GMT
It was all about commercial reality at the expense of 'credibility'. Art for arts sake, hits for fucks sake as he says.
Punk came along, then came NWOBHM then we were into synths and New Romantics! Commercial tastes of the public were changing, Quo were 'old men' and deeply unfashionable. The direction Francis should have taken the band was Red Sky/ZZ Top Eliminator style stuff. He didn't, and the direction of the band was lost, needing to rely on dreadful covers muzak, where there were still enough members of the public who like that sort of thing for it to be successful.
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Post by paradiseflats on May 27, 2022 14:39:49 GMT
Maybe he didn’t change.
He won’t be the first to write music that isn’t his favourite style.
Look at the post classic line up direction or even post Blue for You
I think he’s happier music wise after BFY
He would have been happier after Alan left if the music had been successful as time went on.
He thinks people didn’t give a lot of the material a chance. Many have it a chance only because it was Status Quo product.
Is he happy ? Hope so Did he change I’m told not really. Same person really. But like many artists don’t assume every thing they release is their hearts desire.
Francis has wanted to be successful he has tried to be successful which has been more important than a darling of the critics or to satisfy his fans.
Right or wrong it’s who he is.
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Post by No Contract on May 27, 2022 17:25:07 GMT
there was no way he would of left when the money started rolling in in the 1970s.i guess the success and money were enough to make him stay. I think this is on the money (if you excuse the pun!). The band found a winning formula at some point around 1970/71 and had worked it to perfection by 1973. "Why kill the goose that laid the golden egg?" Rick once said, but that's exactly what they went on to do with their recording career. Ultimately, the albums started to bomb, however, they continued to be a big draw live. Unfortunately this caused a dilemma for Francis because he knows that the winning formula still sells tickets, maintains his millionaire lifestyle and provides a media profile. He doesn't have to keep doing it; he could be true to his creative drive and tour a setlist made from post-'85/country songs/ballads if he wanted, but he knows that he would be relegated to local theatres and halls until the whole thing fizzles out. So he continues on the treadmill, playing songs that he's sick to death of and wearing golden handcuffs. You could almost feel sorry for the poor, old, multi-millionaire!
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Post by azza200 on May 27, 2022 22:44:08 GMT
Nothing stopping him though of playing 2 sets one set all the classics and another set of post 85 material that way he gets the best of both playing the hits in one set and then stuff what gives him a musical boner from post 85 onwards quo oh and Margarita time
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