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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Oct 24, 2021 10:08:59 GMT
What's the pedal Rossi's tapping away on during the chorus? There's no real audible difference when the chorus kicks in with his tone on the whole thing sounding beefy as a bastard, mainly down to the Orange amps, which is a whole other topic I suppose... if Quo used Orange amps...
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Post by Quoincidence on Oct 24, 2021 11:15:23 GMT
What's the pedal Rossi's tapping away on during the chorus? There's no real audible difference when the chorus kicks in with his tone on the whole thing sounding beefy as a bastard, mainly down to the Orange amps, which is a whole other topic I suppose... if Quo used Orange amps... looks like a Fuzz Face, could be wrong. Also looks more like he's tapping his foot next to it or just in front of it, as its not being used during that song. More so for the soloing during Spinning Wheels and Gotta Go Home
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Post by uwe on Oct 25, 2021 15:45:28 GMT
From any perspective I look at it , he's not stomping the stomp box at all during the song, just keeping the meter with his foot.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Oct 26, 2021 11:17:31 GMT
He's definitely using it (or pretending to - that's the album track isn't it?) He kicks it into place twice on purpose, and then only brings his foot down on it at particular points. FWIW.
I've never seen that before, thank you for posting. It's weird seeing them all so young and looking so well ... right on the margin between having been a pop band and growing into being a rock band, when Francis still had rock in his heart. Something which - I suspect - didn't last as long as we like to think it did. It's kind of poignant.
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Post by mortified on Oct 26, 2021 12:26:14 GMT
Putting aside the technical stuff for a moment, that's a really good clip. As Mrs Flittersnoop says, the fledgling rock band beginning to bear it's teeth As for Francis having rock in his heart, I probably should have been alerted when he picked Miss You Nights by Cliff on a radio show back in the 70's and called it "a cracker"
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Post by uwe on Oct 27, 2021 0:59:56 GMT
Hey, don't knock Francis for his non-rock leanings, he never made any bones about them! They kept Status Quo from sounding like Foghat after all! You can't take Francis out of the Quo-equation, and if Caroline wasn't a pop song I don't know what is. Even Down Down is a pure-bred pop song, just played with energy (just like the Ramones were a power pop band, albeit with a very energetic delivery). The pop/folk/country influence of Quo (which came mostly via Rossi) was something that set them apart from other hard rock bands. Quo - throughout their career - were always striving to be not just a live, but also a singles band, it meant something to them to be in the singles charts (probably more than delivering a cohesive album or gaining music journo recognition for it). Most importantly, however, it gave them a teenage fan market (and explains somewhat why, say, an older Rory Gallagher fan wouldn't take them quite seriously in the 70ies - Rory despised singles). In another forum I frequent, there is a C&W expert who disdainfully qualifies most country pop as " not real country" ("new country" is an aberration for him), it's a running joke there. When I once posted a vid of Quo's Wild Side Of Life there, which is a Hank Williams Sr. tune, I was expecting heaped derision from him, but instead he (as a Yank largely unaware of Quo, apart from Pictures of Matchstick Men nothing much ignited - pun carefully worked out - in the US of A) wrote: " They have definitely retained a faithful country feel to it." That was an accolade coming from him for a bunch of Limeys, he generally doesn't even show mercy for the Eagles.
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Post by charles on Oct 27, 2021 6:40:58 GMT
Putting aside the technical stuff for a moment, that's a really good clip. As Mrs Flittersnoop says, the fledgling rock band beginning to bear it's teeth ... Indeed, " the whole thing sounding beefy as a bastard", "he's tapping his foot next to it or just in front of it", "He kicks it into place twice on purpose" and "he's not stomping the stomp box at all" are far too anorak-y for me. Keep it simple, folks!
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2021 8:04:02 GMT
This has got to be the pinnacle of Quos cool. Amazing song, image and performance and a groovy vibe to the tv show.
Is it a volume pedal?
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Post by uwe on Oct 27, 2021 10:07:40 GMT
Putting aside the technical stuff for a moment, that's a really good clip. As Mrs Flittersnoop says, the fledgling rock band beginning to bear it's teeth ... Indeed, " the whole thing sounding beefy as a bastard", "he's tapping his foot next to it or just in front of it", "He kicks it into place twice on purpose" and "he's not stomping the stomp box at all" are far too anorak-y for me. Keep it simple, folks!Now you would expect a QUOnut to say just that, wouldn't you?! So now you have it, your first Karl Marx QUOte in yer forum ...
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Oct 27, 2021 12:57:03 GMT
He's definitely using it (or pretending to - that's the album track isn't it?) He kicks it into place twice on purpose, and then only brings his foot down on it at particular points. FWIW. I've never seen that before, thank you for posting. It's weird seeing them all so young and looking so well ... right on the margin between having been a pop band and growing into being a rock band, when Francis still had rock in his heart. Something which - I suspect - didn't last as long as we like to think it did. It's kind of poignant. Nah it's Live, other track from the same session, Plus IIRM/GGH which was on YT but now gone again.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Oct 27, 2021 15:17:05 GMT
Hey, don't knock Francis for his non-rock leanings, he never made any bones about them! They kept Status Quo from sounding like Foghat after all! You can't take Francis out of the Quo-equation, and if Caroline wasn't a pop song I don't know what is. Even Down Down is a pure-bred pop song, just played with energy (just like the Ramones were a power pop band, albeit with a very energetic delivery). The pop/folk/country influence of Quo (which came mostly via Rossi) was something that set them apart from other hard rock bands. Quo - throughout their career - were always striving to be not just a live, but also a singles band, it meant something to them to be in the singles charts (probably more than delivering a cohesive album or gaining music journo recognition for it). Most importantly, however, it gave them a teenage fan market (and explains somewhat why, say, an older Rory Gallagher fan wouldn't take them quite seriously in the 70ies - Rory despised singles). In another forum I frequent, there is a C&W expert who disdainfully qualifies most country pop as " not real country" ("new country" is an aberration for him), it's a running joke there. When I once posted a vid of Quo's Wild Side Of Life there, which is a Hank Williams Sr. tune, I was expecting heaped derision from him, but instead he (as a Yank largely unaware of Quo, apart from Pictures of Matchstick Men nothing much ignited - pun carefully worked out - in the US of A) wrote: " They have definitely retained a faithful country feel to it." That was an accolade coming from him for a bunch of Limeys, he generally doesn't even show mercy for the Eagles. I hear you in terms of Quo's love of getting into the singles charts and resulting in more kudos and relevance ...and the all important royalty cheques dropping through the letter box, though it was curious that Rossi had warned one of the chaps in Slade (possibly Noddy) about being on a road to nowhere if they persisted with their campaign of just releasing singles year in year out. Obviously Slade did have a few albums out and my particular favourite being 'We'll Bring The House Down' and the brilliant 'Wheels Ain't Coming Down' (based on a true story) but Slade and their management/ record company did seem to be singles orientated and not the way forward in Rossi's mind.
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Post by Quoincidence on Oct 27, 2021 16:04:34 GMT
He's definitely using it (or pretending to - that's the album track isn't it?) He kicks it into place twice on purpose, and then only brings his foot down on it at particular points. FWIW. I've never seen that before, thank you for posting. It's weird seeing them all so young and looking so well ... right on the margin between having been a pop band and growing into being a rock band, when Francis still had rock in his heart. Something which - I suspect - didn't last as long as we like to think it did. It's kind of poignant. Nah it's Live, other track from the same session, Plus IIRM/GGH which was on YT but now gone again. Yeah, Studio Bremen are targeting anyone that is uploading Beat Club material
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Post by uwe on Oct 27, 2021 17:57:28 GMT
Darn Krauts.
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Post by uwe on Oct 27, 2021 18:12:54 GMT
I hear you in terms of Quo's love of getting into the singles charts and resulting in more kudos and relevance ...and the all important royalty cheques dropping through the letter box, though it was curious that Rossi had warned one of the chaps in Slade (possibly Noddy) about being on a road to nowhere if they persisted with their campaign of just releasing singles year in year out. Obviously Slade did have a few albums out and my particular favourite being 'We'll Bring The House Down' and the brilliant 'Wheels Ain't Coming Down' (based on a true story) but Slade and their management/ record company did seem to be singles orientated and not the way forward in Rossi's mind. Good point. The way Slade's career (and I luuuv that band) was manhandled by Chas Chandler was extremely short-sighted (perhaps because he didn't really think they were game changers like Hendrix had been?). Basically, he managed Slade in the 70ies as if the 60ies had never stopped. Slade, a great live band with a strong songwriting team, a bassist that could play circles around most other rock bassists and Noddy's idiosyncratic voice, missed the boat to evolve from teeny bopper heroes to a credible rock band (which they always were as well, but it was hidden behind their "Charles-Dickens-meets-Clockwork-Orange"-glam look, the obsession with just singles and the " sounds-great-over-cheap-radios-and-jukeboxes, you-really-hear-Noddy-well"-fairground production style with Noddy's voice so far up in the mix it devalued the good music that was going on behind him. By the time they headed for America, it was too late. Tragic. The life span of any band milking the teeny bopper market tends to be two to three years. During that time, your audience turns into young adults and to other music. And you can't really start anew with the next wave of adolescents because there is always a newer, fresher, younger band at the starting block. In contrast, Quo's musical and visual reinvention of themselves from a 60ies novelty pop psychedelia outfit to the jeans-clad boogie merchants (German music mags would call them "the Riff-Raff Kings") they became has to be admired. They really rebuilt their career from scratch, took their time to do it, persevered and retained a certain commercial appeal all the while, hence the focus on new singles. Not a lot of bands with single hits in the 60ies stopped playing these altogether while touring in the 70ies just to forge a new identity; Quo basically pretended that they were a new band (which in a way they were). And while they had a lot more singles and radio play focus than other hard rock bands of the time, they did not - and this is where Rossi's advice to Slade comes in - neglect their album legacy once they were with Vertigo. Those album covers very cleverly co-shaped the iconic people's band image of the group (easily to be replicated by the fans - the Ramones did the same thing with their jeans and leather jackets) and that little " From the Makers of ..." logo on the back of their sleeves (sketching the look of the covers of their previous albums, not their names, very visual!) was a stroke of marketing genius. Rocking All Over the World (the album) was interestingly the first album (after a sequence of six albums) that did not show the band in some kind of way, I thought that telling at the time, you knew something was afoot even before you had heard the first few notes of Pip Williams' radically different pop production. (I'll never understand why they didn't stick with Roger Glover - no, that's not me waving my Purple flag, I honestly think he did good work with the likes of Nazareth and Judas Priest, even if he had never played a note with Purple - whose production of WSOL had given them a slightly more refined commercial sheen they hadn't had before, yet left their hard rock testicles dangling.) I can't think of another band that undertook as radical and lastingly successful a change as Status Quo did from the 60ies to the 70ies (without really a line-up change if you ignore Roy Lynes' departure). Maybe Depeche Mode got close when they changed from early 80ies pop chart fodder to the somber electronic rock stadium act they became at the end of the 80ies. I respect them for that too.
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Post by gerh on Oct 27, 2021 19:24:52 GMT
Indeed, " the whole thing sounding beefy as a bastard", "he's tapping his foot next to it or just in front of it", "He kicks it into place twice on purpose" and "he's not stomping the stomp box at all" are far too anorak-y for me. Keep it simple, folks!Now you would expect a QUOnut to say just that, wouldn't you?! So now you have it, your first Karl Marx QUOte in yer forum ... ... and just to balance things out a wee bit, here's one from Karl's brother...
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