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Post by Victor on Apr 3, 2021 4:54:03 GMT
Looking forward to opinions/discussions about it
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Post by mortified on Apr 3, 2021 6:10:31 GMT
Interesting choice. The album that put them up there. Even higher than they already were. Not their best album for me but a very good one. And parts of it are staggeringly ahead of their time. On The Run in particular takes us into 90's/00's ambient dance territory! My introduction to Dark Side of the Moon, probably like many, was the single Money which I heard on the radio and went out and bought. But the album itself was far too ambient and wistful for this teenager, so I didn't really appreciate it until much later. Once some semblance of maturity had set in and my ears needed a rest Loads of schoolmates went to see the band at Edinburgh Usher Hall in 1974 where, I was told, they played the entire album. You couldn't move for the smell of patchouli for a week afterwards Probably seen as faultless these days, its an album that has to be listened to in its entirety to be fully appreciated. If you can stay awake long enough
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Post by madturk on Apr 4, 2021 22:48:28 GMT
I like most of the songs on it but I usually stop after Money. Us and Them is a bit drawn out and Brain Damage/Eclipse are not favourites for me. I definitely fall into the Gilmour camp. My mate from years ago was a Waters fan and was into the lyrics and not so much the music. I can take or leave the lyrics (sorry!) they could be singing about radiator valves for all I care. It’s the music which gets me. Gilmour’s influence (credited or not) his singing voice and playing is more interesting to me.
My mate used to say Shine on you crazy diamond went on for ages before it started. It was all about the lyrics for him. But that’s OK. Something for everyone!
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Post by dennis on Apr 4, 2021 23:41:08 GMT
I remember seeing them at Earl's Court in '94, I think, & they played the whole album as the second half of the set - superb performance. Mind you, there would have been 10 or 12 of them on stage! Always really rated the album but Wish You Were Here emerged as my favourite Pink Floyd album over the years. However, Dark Side Of The Moon seems to have a near universal appeal that also stands the test of time, it's nearly 50 years old & I suspect it'll still be considered a classic when it reaches it's centenary.
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Post by madturk on Apr 5, 2021 9:23:13 GMT
People often comment about the extra musicians on stage in relation to 80s and 90s Floyd. But they had as many people on stage even when Waters was in the band. They had female backing singers in 73/74 onwards. Sax player from 74 onwards. Additional guitar player from 77 and they doubled up on everything including drums in 80/81. And there was even some guy playing bass behind Waters.
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Post by mortified on Apr 5, 2021 9:30:35 GMT
I like most of the songs on it but I usually stop after Money. Us and Them is a bit drawn out and Brain Damage/Eclipse are not favourites for me. I definitely fall into the Gilmour camp. My mate from years ago was a Waters fan and was into the lyrics and not so much the music. I can take or leave the lyrics (sorry!) they could be singing about radiator valves for all I care. It’s the music which gets me. Gilmour’s influence (credited or not) his singing voice and playing is more interesting to me. My mate used to say Shine on you crazy diamond went on for ages before it started. It was all about the lyrics for him. But that’s OK. Something for everyone! Welcome to my world It will always be the music first and the lyrics second. Good lyrics are an added bonus for me. But many others think differently. I also think quite often the lyrics are more important to the composer than to the listener. Which I suppose they would be. If I want clever words or meaning, I'll read a book
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Post by madturk on Apr 5, 2021 9:35:26 GMT
What’s a book?
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Post by blagult on Apr 5, 2021 11:55:48 GMT
Every 2-3 years I’m in the right mood to play DSOTM. It is a classic album no doubt but I just prefer ‘ Wish you were here ‘.
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Post by 4th Chord on Apr 5, 2021 12:06:00 GMT
I like most of the songs on it but I usually stop after Money. Us and Them is a bit drawn out and Brain Damage/Eclipse are not favourites for me. I definitely fall into the Gilmour camp. My mate from years ago was a Waters fan and was into the lyrics and not so much the music. I can take or leave the lyrics (sorry!) they could be singing about radiator valves for all I care. It’s the music which gets me. Gilmour’s influence (credited or not) his singing voice and playing is more interesting to me. My mate used to say Shine on you crazy diamond went on for ages before it started. It was all about the lyrics for him. But that’s OK. Something for everyone! Welcome to my world It will always be the music first and the lyrics second. Good lyrics are an added bonus for me. But many others think differently. I also think quite often the lyrics are more important to the composer than to the listener. Which I suppose they would be. If I want clever words or meaning, I'll read a book Big bottom Big bottom Talk about bum cakes My gal's got 'em. Big bottoms Drive me out of my mind. How can I leave this behind?
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Post by dennis on Apr 5, 2021 12:58:56 GMT
People often comment about the extra musicians on stage in relation to 80s and 90s Floyd. But they had as many people on stage even when Waters was in the band. They had female backing singers in 73/74 onwards. Sax player from 74 onwards. Additional guitar player from 77 and they doubled up on everything including drums in 80/81. And there was even some guy playing bass behind Waters. As the perple that seemed to spark your comment, perhaps I should clarify that it was an observation rather than a criticism. Nothing wrong with having the resources on stage to deliver the desired performance, regardless of whether that's just one person on acoustic or a full orchestra. My comment was in relation to a particular gig, i.e. that the quality of the performance came as no surprise given the resources applied to it's delivery. It was not a comment on a particular era of the band's existence, nor was a post-Waters perspective comment. Indeed, I've seen Roger Waters live & he also seemed to be adequately staffed for the performance he wanted to deliver, quite rightly so. The information about the band's use of additional musicians is not a revelation, it's common knowledge. It's also not unusual for band's to employ additional musicians to adequately deliver a performance of material that was originally quite complex when recorded in the studio. One can see this with Quo's return to a 5-piece when Andy was recruited as the regular keyboard player once they'd encountered the problem of how to deliver on stage an adequate performance of Rockin' All Over The World, with it's piano introduction!
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Post by mortified on Apr 5, 2021 14:49:53 GMT
Welcome to my world It will always be the music first and the lyrics second. Good lyrics are an added bonus for me. But many others think differently. I also think quite often the lyrics are more important to the composer than to the listener. Which I suppose they would be. If I want clever words or meaning, I'll read a book Big bottom Big bottom Talk about bum cakes My gal's got 'em. Big bottoms Drive me out of my mind. How can I leave this behind? Ah, UFO's Big Bottom. From the Phenazepam album. A classic
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Post by gerh on Apr 5, 2021 15:09:09 GMT
DSOTM - both terrifically over-rated and under-rated, at the same time!
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 6, 2021 12:26:05 GMT
Floyd are a funny one with me. When I listen to them I only listen to early stuff that predates Dark side. The only exception is Wish you were here.
Set controls is a master piece.
As a result I am aware of Darkside, especially the bootleg where Dream Theater play it all live.
As I am not overly familiar with it. With the exception of the Great gig in the sky.
I will give it another listen.
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Post by mortified on Apr 6, 2021 13:18:15 GMT
I get the impression that most people rate Wish You Were here more highly than most other Pink Floyd albums, certainly from early 70's releases onwards. A generalisation of course but let's call it something of a trend in these discussions. I'm probably part of that little clique as well. Although how rampant Floyd fans view things (the hardcore? ) I have no idea. I guess it's a bit of Gilmour/Waters split with Syd Barrett bringing up the rear.
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 6, 2021 14:33:27 GMT
I get the impression that most people rate Wish You Were here more highly than most other Pink Floyd albums, certainly from early 70's releases onwards. A generalisation of course but let's call it something of a trend in these discussions. I'm probably part of that little clique as well. Although how rampant Floyd fans view things (the hardcore? ) I have no idea. I guess it's a bit of Gilmour/Waters split with Syd Barrett bringing up the rear. Possibly because Wish you were here, is very accessible prog, if its prog at all. I must admit, I have never met a big fan of theirs.
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