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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Apr 4, 2021 1:28:52 GMT
More the other way round. 100% the hero as I grew up, but there's things he's done and said I haven't liked that have disappointed me. The first was him (and Rick) professing love for Thatcher during the EOTR tour. I think Francis' politics are as contrary as he is. Probably the less about Rick's I know the better! Always ends up forgiven or understood, whatever it is There was such hostility towards him after Rick died, but its gone now Their love for Thatcher? Fucking idiots It just came down to £s and pence really at the time from their perspective. In the 70s under Labour the highest rate of income tax on earned income (their income) was 83 per cent. Thatcher’s government reduced it to 60 per cent in 1980 and then 40 per cent in 1989. The band spent quite a bit of time in Ireland, Jersey etc to avoid giving their hard earned cash away, as such. I think Rossi is much less conservative these days but think Rick had much in common with Jim Davidson and his political views. Personally I find it difficult to align with any political party completely. Far too complicated and too simplistic to say a party is always right... or left! Even Paul Weller wound people up at one time by saying he was voting for the Conservatives. Just to upset people I think and turn expectations on their head. A bit of Publicity as well no doubt.
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Post by freewilly on Apr 4, 2021 1:56:01 GMT
Their love for Thatcher? Fucking idiots Personally I find it difficult to align with any political party completely. Far too complicated and too simplistic to say a party is always right... or left! Same... Life is hard enough without that bollocks! Try to make others happy. Best policy to have
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 4, 2021 12:45:51 GMT
Personally I find it difficult to align with any political party completely. Far too complicated and too simplistic to say a party is always right... or left! Same... Life is hard enough without that bollocks! Try to make others happy. Best policy to have As opposed to Thatcher who had a policy of making people happy by destroying the lives of others. The woman who glorified Saville despite knowing what he was up to and trying to turn the clock back to demonise homosexuals.
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Post by freewilly on Apr 5, 2021 1:28:50 GMT
Same... Life is hard enough without that bollocks! Try to make others happy. Best policy to have As opposed to Thatcher who had a policy of making people happy by destroying the lives of others. The woman who glorified Saville despite knowing what he was up to and trying to turn the clock back to demonise homosexuals. I agree... I wasn't disagreeing at all. I like to live to my life, trying to make others happy and being the best possible person I can be...That's what my initial point was. It had nothing to do with Thatcher or the other ****. I like to try to forget about politics and how corrupt they are Perhaps I made my point wrong...
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Apr 5, 2021 10:23:13 GMT
That EOTR tour programme was really interesting
People forget that tax was exceedingly high under Tory govts of the 60's and 70's. The media is very powerful and the narrative now is that high tax is / was a labour thing. I think Quo bought into that, as did most weathier people. Thatcher got the political rewards for "being tough" but much of our economic policy then was being dictated by the IMF
Perhaps more interesting was Alan's "I like gays" comment. A lot has changed since then and what musician would say that now? At the time the tabloid press was pure poison against gay musicians and actors.
As for me, very happy to be permanently Labour. There's a permanent need for ordinary people to be represented, whereas the Tory Party has for centuries provided quality representation for people who don't need it. I think a lot of successful working class people make the mistake of thinking "well I did it with hard work, that means so can anyone else". That type of thinking is a path to the dark side - the Right!
I suspect Quo think like that, and yes they certainly did work damned hard to get anywhere.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2021 19:22:24 GMT
All of that watered down country mediocre pop pap that he spent decades playing under the Quo name I can assure you that when I saw Status Quo in 2011, they did not play "watered down country mediocre pop pap". Far from it.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Apr 5, 2021 23:07:41 GMT
Never thought he was anything other than honest. Opinionated but honest. And we're all opinionated. He's never gone up in my estimation. Because he's never come down. None of them have. They're all just blokes who exist in a world that very few of us can fully appreciate. When we went to see Francis on his talk tour a couple of years back, we queued to have the book signed. When we got up to him, I asked if he could sign it over his photo on the back. His PA (Leanne?) was insistent that all books were to be signed on the first inside page. He signed mine on the back anyway. The rebel He then took the pi$$ out of my poor excuse for a goatee. Which was fair enough I think there's a shyness and insecurity about Francis. There's certainly a privacy and reserve when he's out of his comfort zone. Which is off stage. I admire him for putting himself through the possible discomfort of meeting us lot. And putting on his stage persona. I don't envy him that. But he probably feels he has a duty. Maybe he does. I have had a couple of encounters with Francis but still thought about doing a meet n' greet in more recent times as my youngster is into Quo now. Though somebody much closer to Francis than moi said to me to save my money. I think he has gone down in some people's estimations who have known him fairly well over the years. Difficult one really, as all who have been involved with Quo are a part of who I am in a way, as I'm sure they are for a few on here as well. Some peeps get hot under the collar about Marguerita Time, Bula Quo. the covers albums, Aquostic etc etc but small fry compared to the time when I really felt genuinely disappointed and embarrassed in a sense that Quo had played Sun City. I was gutted. Not the only one I'm sure and Bob Young had been shocked in a way. Arguably Francis was being honest when he tried to justify it all by comparisons with oppression in other places in the world. He is very astute in that way and not an imbecile, though they knew they had to apologise afterwards as they had almost committed commercial suicide. They were banned from playing in certain places. There were bands saying they wouldn't appear on the same bill as Quo due to Sun City (though they did...hypocrites!). The band are only human and flawed as curiousgirl has said. Wish they hadn't played Sun City...but they did. Still love 'em though but not always been easy being a fully paid up Quo fan over the decades!
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Post by 37 on Apr 7, 2021 16:06:38 GMT
Well, he's the reason I have an earring in my left ear. This!.........and I am nearly 60!!
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Post by nino on Apr 7, 2021 16:10:32 GMT
Same! The reason I have a big silver ring and not a plug(?) as I used to before I got to know them. Not to mention that I play guitar, make music in general because of them, I earn my living with music (from the background though)etc. Huuuuuuuge and not to be underestimated influence on my whole life.
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Post by granny on Apr 8, 2021 10:39:47 GMT
That EOTR tour programme was really interesting People forget that tax was exceedingly high under Tory govts of the 60's and 70's. The media is very powerful and the narrative now is that high tax is / was a labour thing. I think Quo bought into that, as did most weathier people. Thatcher got the political rewards for "being tough" but much of our economic policy then was being dictated by the IMF Perhaps more interesting was Alan's "I like gays" comment. A lot has changed since then and what musician would say that now? At the time the tabloid press was pure poison against gay musicians and actors. As for me, very happy to be permanently Labour. There's a permanent need for ordinary people to be represented, whereas the Tory Party has for centuries provided quality representation for people who don't need it. I think a lot of successful working class people make the mistake of thinking "well I did it with hard work, that means so can anyone else". That type of thinking is a path to the dark side - the Right! I suspect Quo think like that, and yes they certainly did work damned hard to get anywhere. But Labour is no longer recognisable under Starmer.
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