mortified
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Post by mortified on Apr 6, 2021 10:08:56 GMT
Rhino sings Gravy Train on the demo that came out in early 2007; or thereabouts. And, for me, it's a better version. Much more raw and the vocals suit it. Certainly less polished, which the album ultimately became. But then demos are I like Rhino's voice. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Both of his solo albums are first class and not remotely reduced in quality by the singing. But obviously he's totally different to Rick in delivery and style and he'll always attract criticism for singing what is perceived to be Rick's material in his absence. Personally, I'm not convinced that Rain needs to be in the set anymore. It was primarily a Rick moment during the show where he took centre stage (so to speak). Bad News would be the obvious answer to relieve some of the workload from Francis but it seems that'll never happen. Not sure why. Freddie's solo (admittedly a highlight) could be missed out altogether unless Richie could take it on. No idea. Just thinking out loud. At the gig itself, I'm largely unconcerned about who's singing what.
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 6, 2021 12:32:31 GMT
Obviously I disagree about his voice. I am not sure his Mam could love it.
However thats what it is.
To me live its not about comparing his voice to Rick really. Although I do think they sound worse as a result of not having R icks's voice in the harmonies with Francis. Perhaps Richie can do this better than Edwards.
As for Francis having a break. Why ? If I went to see Springsteen, who performs for much longer than Francis, to have a break for his voice. Same with many other artists who play and sing during gigs.
Its all a mute point for me, as I don't think I will ever see them again. They are a decent live band but I have seen much better versions of the same set.
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mortified
4500 Timer
Posts: 5,841
Favourite Quo Album: Hello!
Favourite other bands.: Talking Heads, Rolling Stones, Sheryl Crow, Gary Numan, Alabama 3, ZZ Top, Paul van Dyk, Jeff Beck, Bowie, Gerry Rafferty, Band of Skulls, UFO, S.A.H.B
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Post by mortified on Apr 6, 2021 12:51:09 GMT
I guess it's a just a question of preference when it comes to Rhino's singing. He's a member of the band but not their best or lead vocalist. He's a contributor, principally to the harmonies but also to the writing. But is capable of taking over the reigns for the odd song when needed. As for Francis needing a break, if he says he, does he does; and I don't actually know that; it's just what I've read here and there. It could just as easily have been a question of he and Rick getting equal game time. But I've seen Francis struggle on and off with vocals for a very long time. In a live setting I mean. Down Down has always been a challenge and they even dropped Dear John from the set in 1982 because he struggled with it. And this was when both Rick and Alan were contributing a great deal vocally on stage. He doesn't have a strong vocal range. Never has had. But it suits Quo to a 'T'. But very possibly all academic if they never play live again. Then tribute bands might actually mean something at long last
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 6, 2021 13:10:52 GMT
I guess it's a just a question of preference when it comes to Rhino's singing. He's a member of the band but not their best or lead vocalist. He's a contributor, principally to the harmonies but also to the writing. But is capable of taking over the reigns for the odd song when needed. As for Francis needing a break, if he says does he does; and I don't actually know that; it's just what I've read here and there. It could just as easily have been a question of he and Rick getting equal game time. But I've seen Francis struggle on and off with vocals for a very long time. In a live setting I mean. Down Down has always been a challenge and they even dropped Dear John from the set in 1982 because he struggled with it. And this was when both Rick and Alan were contributing a great deal vocally on stage. He doesn't have a strong vocal range. Never has had. But it suits Quo to a 'T'. But very possibly all academic if they never play live again. Then tribute bands might actually mean something at long last I hope they do play live again. If it makes people happy and it does, I hope it happens. Must admit last time I saw Johns band. It was much better value for money. Well it was free ! The whole ‘tribute’ act thing. Perhaps needs rebranding. In other areas of music, like jazz, blues and classical. It’s deemed a performance rather than a tribute. Perhaps bands in future will drop the whole cos play, and just play the music as a performance.
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Post by wolfman on Apr 8, 2021 17:33:29 GMT
When rhino joined the band I blamed the tories...
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 8, 2021 17:41:29 GMT
When rhino joined the band I blamed the tories... Incredible to think the witch was PM then
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 10, 2021 20:51:16 GMT
Francis definitely needs some of the weight taken off his shoulders. He's been having bronchial infections exactly because of being the lead singer. Being in front and doing a lot of singing, shouting etc. also ruined Ian Anderson's voice. It's the kind of stuff we never really paid that much attention to before Covid.
Could Andy play the solo in Bad News if Richie isn't up for it? This band has possibilities, they should use them!
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Post by twentytwenty on Apr 25, 2021 23:36:14 GMT
I think he sounds great on the live version of SBYBIL in Hyde Park
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Post by freewilly on Apr 26, 2021 0:44:39 GMT
Rain wasn't a hit among the casuals Either was Mystery Song or Backwater.
95% of the hardcore audience are gone. The casuals are only interested in Army, WYW and RAOTW. There is no need to play any of Rick or Alan's songs.
Put in Run & Hide, Bad News or something original that Richie sings. Something they're good at, comfortable and shows off their capabilities and shows the band in a new light because, tbh, no disrespect to any musician but, they murder Rick and Alan's songs
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Post by blagult on Apr 26, 2021 6:37:49 GMT
I actually think The track ‘ Run and Hide ‘ is a fantastic track with great vocals. Put that on any FF album tbh.
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Post by freewilly on Apr 26, 2021 13:19:49 GMT
I actually think The track ‘ Run and Hide ‘ is a fantastic track with great vocals. Put that on any FF album tbh. I think it's a great track too... FF album? Not for me, it's too heavy. Maybe the Quo album?
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 21, 2024 22:48:51 GMT
I think that is what is lacking about Backbone, it lacks the variety of vocals we have been treated to in the past, with Rick and Alan, as well as Francis. But I really liked Rhino's vocals on Bad news, so I think if Quo do one last album, I would welcome Rhino's vocals on a few tracks.
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Post by Victor on Mar 22, 2024 17:14:14 GMT
I think that is what is lacking about Backbone, it lacks the variety of vocals we have been treated to in the past, with Rick and Alan, as well as Francis. But I really liked Rhino's vocals on Bad news, so I think if Quo do one last album, I would welcome Rhino's vocals on a few tracks. For me that would be reason to stay away from a new album if that happens. I don't like Rhino's voice at all and don't think it suits quo at all.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 26, 2024 10:33:29 GMT
I think that is what is lacking about Backbone, it lacks the variety of vocals we have been treated to in the past, with Rick and Alan, as well as Francis. But I really liked Rhino's vocals on Bad news, so I think if Quo do one last album, I would welcome Rhino's vocals on a few tracks. Fair point. Richie excels on "Get Out Of My Head" so if they did another album, I would hope his vocal role increases. I don't mind it that Andy only sings a bit - that's still more than he did on any Quo album IIRC ("Calling the Shots" wasn't an album track originally), but Rhino should've also gotten one full song. (Well, I liked Bad News & Run and Hide. Centerfold not so much.) And then there's Leon, who's still a bit of an unknown quantity. Based on the Porcupine Tree cover that mortified posted in this thread, he could offer some interesting softer qualities but I'm not sure how suited his voice would be to anything typically Quo: statusquo.boards.net/thread/16550/which-member-quo-best-singer?page=3Edit: Here's another track with Leon singing.
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 26, 2024 11:44:56 GMT
I think that is what is lacking about Backbone, it lacks the variety of vocals we have been treated to in the past, with Rick and Alan, as well as Francis. But I really liked Rhino's vocals on Bad news, so I think if Quo do one last album, I would welcome Rhino's vocals on a few tracks. For me that would be reason to stay away from a new album if that happens. I don't like Rhino's voice at all and don't think it suits quo at all. I think for me Rhino doesn't try to suite Quo or be anything he can't be, but that in a strange way works out for him. I thought Bad News was excellent. I know we really were spoilt as fans in the past vocally, it's difficult to imagine if all the Quo albums only had Francis singing lead vocals on all the tracks. I know Never Too Late suffered that fate, but let's not forget the Never too late tracks were left over tracks from the Just Supposin' sessions, and weirdly it worked out great. In fact Never too late widely remains the fans favourite, but I couldn't imagine all Quo albums with only Francis on lead vocals.
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