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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 13:24:10 GMT
I'm not sure anyone who's never been in a band long-term and also been a friend with someone who doesn't mature will ever understand Frame. Alan was always childish, a poser. Francis started to take himself seriously because no one else was taking themselves nor the band seriously. Even Alan's songs became macho, pompous shite. As much as people will probably not care to admit, Rossi was the only one ever actively trying to keep Quo afloat, active and fresh whilst also dealing with personal problems and fame, whilst everyone else around him were enjoying themselves with no real thought for tomorrow. Rossi always thought of tomorrow. 80s and 90s Quo is only shite if you're a dinosaur who still thinks Led Zepp weren't just posers whilst the lesser-known bands ate and shite them for breakfast. And queue the strongly-worded replies of Alan's god because he wore a biker jacket... I know it is early in the year but the most embarassing post candidate has arrived.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 13:36:25 GMT
I'm not sure anyone who's never been in a band long-term and also been a friend with someone who doesn't mature will ever understand Frame. Alan was always childish, a poser. Francis started to take himself seriously because no one else was taking themselves nor the band seriously. Even Alan's songs became macho, pompous shite. As much as people will probably not care to admit, Rossi was the only one ever actively trying to keep Quo afloat, active and fresh whilst also dealing with personal problems and fame, whilst everyone else around him were enjoying themselves with no real thought for tomorrow. Rossi always thought of tomorrow. 80s and 90s Quo is only shite if you're a dinosaur who still thinks Led Zepp weren't just posers whilst the lesser-known bands ate and shite them for breakfast. And queue the strongly-worded replies of Alan's god because he wore a biker jacket... Let us just consider some your thoughts... Francis was the only one taking himself seriously... no Francis was snorting Peru. That is his own admission. Alan's songs became 'macho pompus shite'. Have you actually read the lyrics of the songs he wrote. 'Look around, see if I'm wrong It's only a show for those who don't belong'. Francis was trying to actively leave not keep the band afloat. He thought the grass was greener elsewhere. He wanted to make it inactive. Till he was forced to return with his tail between his legs. His version of events, not mine. He always thought of tomorrow. Whereas I thought he only thought about himself. Not his partner or his kids. His words not mine. Quo in the 80s and 90s are only shite if your a dinosaur. Thats a matter of taste and opinion. For me they went in the wrong direction and the music became poor. However I won't slag off those who like it/ love it. It is Francis who abandoned his 'fresh' approach when the record company didn't want him any more. Zeppelin were 'just posers'. Yeah no talent there at all. Great insight.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 5, 2021 13:37:25 GMT
I'm not sure anyone who's never been in a band long-term and also been a friend with someone who doesn't mature will ever understand Frame. Alan was always childish, a poser. Francis started to take himself seriously because no one else was taking themselves nor the band seriously. Even Alan's songs became macho, pompous shite. As much as people will probably not care to admit, Rossi was the only one ever actively trying to keep Quo afloat, active and fresh whilst also dealing with personal problems and fame, whilst everyone else around him were enjoying themselves with no real thought for tomorrow. Rossi always thought of tomorrow. 80s and 90s Quo is only shite if you're a dinosaur who still thinks Led Zepp weren't just posers whilst the lesser-known bands ate and shite them for breakfast. And queue the strongly-worded replies of Alan's god because he wore a biker jacket... Ha.. are you kidding? Alan was always childish? In every interview I saw with the band, during their peak, Alan was always the one who came across as thoughtful and articulate in his answers while Francis and Rick were naffing about in the background. I think the answer lies between these two points of view. Yes I remember Alan giving thoughtful answers in the 70s. But he also got into trouble with his temper. And some might see that as childish. The shared naffing about and banter is probably what kept Francis and Rick friends or at least working together. And Francis always had his business eye on the ball with his music but he clearly thought giving interviews was rather pretentious, hence his nervous answers in his youth. (Old Grey Whistle Test interview is a good example.) And clowning around later on. I think its very hard to truly understand what went on from the snippets we've seen.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 5, 2021 13:38:59 GMT
paradiseflatsFrancis didn't start on the coke until much later on. He worked hard on song writing in those early years. But once they were all on the treadmill of fame, then coke kept his energy levels going when he and the rest of the band were clearly exhausted.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 13:41:55 GMT
paradiseflats Francis didn't start on the coke until much later on. He worked hard on song writing in those early years. But once they were all on the treadmill of fame, then coke kept his energy levels going when he and the rest of the band were clearly exhausted. Excuse me if I wasn't clear, I was responding to the post thinking it referrred to his time in the band in the times it changed direction in the late 70's through the 80's. I don't doubt his hard work not just in the early years but across the many decades.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jan 5, 2021 14:36:50 GMT
A lot of folk seem to have evaded the phrase 'taking stuff at face value'. What's on TV isn't real. An interview isn't how a band works, it's just an easy solution to throw others under the bus and judge books by cover. I'll take my 'most embarrassing post of the year' award, given by the god-sent poet of unofficial Quo-forum posts paradiseflats himself, and shove it up my arse with the rest of my (god forbid) controversial opinions and watch the band like a soap-opera like a lot of other folk appear to do.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jan 5, 2021 14:39:33 GMT
I'm not sure anyone who's never been in a band long-term and also been a friend with someone who doesn't mature will ever understand Frame. Alan was always childish, a poser. Francis started to take himself seriously because no one else was taking themselves nor the band seriously. Even Alan's songs became macho, pompous shite. As much as people will probably not care to admit, Rossi was the only one ever actively trying to keep Quo afloat, active and fresh whilst also dealing with personal problems and fame, whilst everyone else around him were enjoying themselves with no real thought for tomorrow. Rossi always thought of tomorrow. 80s and 90s Quo is only shite if you're a dinosaur who still thinks Led Zepp weren't just posers whilst the lesser-known bands ate and shite them for breakfast. And queue the strongly-worded replies of Alan's god because he wore a biker jacket... Let us just consider some your thoughts... Francis was the only one taking himself seriously... no Francis was snorting Peru. That is his own admission. Alan's songs became 'macho pompus shite'. Have you actually read the lyrics of the songs he wrote. 'Look around, see if I'm wrong It's only a show for those who don't belong'. Francis was trying to actively leave not keep the band afloat. He thought the grass was greener elsewhere. He wanted to make it inactive. Till he was forced to return with his tail between his legs. His version of events, not mine. He always thought of tomorrow. Whereas I thought he only thought about himself. Not his partner or his kids. His words not mine. Quo in the 80s and 90s are only shite if your a dinosaur. Thats a matter of taste and opinion. For me they went in the wrong direction and the music became poor. However I won't slag off those who like it/ love it. It is Francis who abandoned his 'fresh' approach when the record company didn't want him any more. Zeppelin were 'just posers'. Yeah no talent there at all. Great insight. You're saying stuff that's backing up my points. Perhaps do a bit of thinking for yourself before issuing awards.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 14:59:40 GMT
Let us just consider some your thoughts... Francis was the only one taking himself seriously... no Francis was snorting Peru. That is his own admission. Alan's songs became 'macho pompus shite'. Have you actually read the lyrics of the songs he wrote. 'Look around, see if I'm wrong It's only a show for those who don't belong'. Francis was trying to actively leave not keep the band afloat. He thought the grass was greener elsewhere. He wanted to make it inactive. Till he was forced to return with his tail between his legs. His version of events, not mine. He always thought of tomorrow. Whereas I thought he only thought about himself. Not his partner or his kids. His words not mine. Quo in the 80s and 90s are only shite if your a dinosaur. Thats a matter of taste and opinion. For me they went in the wrong direction and the music became poor. However I won't slag off those who like it/ love it. It is Francis who abandoned his 'fresh' approach when the record company didn't want him any more. Zeppelin were 'just posers'. Yeah no talent there at all. Great insight. You're saying stuff that's backing up my points. Perhaps do a bit of thinking for yourself before issuing awards. You clearly were/are his target audience. Bet you love a basket of chicken.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jan 5, 2021 15:07:20 GMT
You're saying stuff that's backing up my points. Perhaps do a bit of thinking for yourself before issuing awards. You clearly were/are his target audience. Bet you love a basket of chicken. Enter the angry, anti-Francis, rock n roll til I die, 'Quo from 1972-1976 were untouchable', 'no you're wrong because I'm right' brigade I suppose.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 15:22:28 GMT
You clearly were/are his target audience. Bet you love a basket of chicken. Enter the angry, anti-Francis, rock n roll til I die, 'Quo from 1972-1976 were untouchable', 'no you're wrong because I'm right' brigade I suppose. Have you read, your post. Full of anger and hate. Towards band members and fellow music lovers. Im not rock n roll till I die, metal maybe but probably to diverse these days for that. You slag off Alan and try to play the victim. Oh dear.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 5, 2021 15:57:18 GMT
Enter the angry, anti-Francis, rock n roll til I die, 'Quo from 1972-1976 were untouchable', 'no you're wrong because I'm right' brigade I suppose. Have you read, your post. Full of anger and hate. Towards band members and fellow music lovers. Im not rock n roll till I die, metal maybe but probably to diverse these days for that. You slag off Alan and try to play the victim. Oh dear. I am sorry but I do not see the intensity of anger and hate that you do in QuocaQuola1's post. I see him trying to be fair. I could see that Alan loves being macho. And we can all be childish. I don't see what there is to object to. I'm stepping in here as a mod because you are also adding childish insults to this member. No, its not directly rude but he's not insulting you back. So its really not necessary.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 15:58:29 GMT
Have you read, your post. Full of anger and hate. Towards band members and fellow music lovers. Im not rock n roll till I die, metal maybe but probably to diverse these days for that. You slag off Alan and try to play the victim. Oh dear. I am sorry but I do not see the intensity of anger and hate that you do in QuocaQuola1's post. I see him trying to be fair. I could see that Alan loves being macho. And we can all be childish. I don't see what there is to object to. I'm stepping in here as a mod because you are also adding childish insults to this member. No, its not directly rude but he's not insulting you back. So its really not necessary. Line is drawn. Fair enough, I don’t agree with you but fair enough.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 5, 2021 17:41:32 GMT
I must admit, I find it fascinating how there is always a defence of Francis from some people, no matter what he has said or done. Meanwhile, it's everyone else's fault he fell out with them...
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Post by wolfman on Jan 5, 2021 18:16:08 GMT
I've read some of the above posts but not watched the long clip of the new bass player! Cant be bothered with rhino if he keeps slating nuff n spud..
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Post by blagult on Jan 5, 2021 21:59:45 GMT
I think after so many years of this argument raising itself no ones loyalty is going to change sides. It’s all History at the end of the day ! We go on and Quo go on. Just maybe they can add a little more History I hope. Long live Quo !! 😉
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