steveb
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Post by steveb on Jan 5, 2021 1:10:37 GMT
not one of my favourites that's for gure.a 4 out of 10
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 5, 2021 4:54:18 GMT
So I did a bit of research and found a Record Collectors article from December 1997 that mentions both Raining In My Heart and FBI. Both recorded at Allerton Hill (Brians) studio with him playing lead gtr, bass gtr, drums and keys whilst Rick and Francis just recorded their rhythm parts. Which answers your question cammythemortonfan
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Post by freewilly on Jan 5, 2021 6:23:35 GMT
So I did a bit of research and found a Record Collectors article from December 1997 that mentions both Raining In My Heart and FBI. Both recorded at Allerton Hill (Brians) studio with him playing lead gtr, bass gtr, drums and keys whilst Rick and Francis just recorded their rhythm parts. Which answers your question cammythemortonfan Never knew Brian could play drums. Learn something new every day. Thanks
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mortified
4500 Timer
Posts: 5,775
Favourite Quo Album: Hello!
Favourite other bands.: Sheryl Crow, Gary Numan, Alabama 3, ZZ Top, Paul van Dyk, Jeff Beck, Bowie, Gerry Rafferty, Band of Skulls, UFO, S.A.H.B
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Post by mortified on Jan 5, 2021 11:21:26 GMT
Covers albums, no matter who does them, always seem pretty naff to me. I think the only one I ever liked most of the tracks on was Reload by Tom Jones. It just seemed to work and he somehow managed to make the general concept quite cool as opposed to desperate.
Even those by bands like Rush and, more recently, UFO weren't great. In fact, it was UFO's final album and easily their worst in about two decades! Maybe even their worst ever.
Actually, in retrospect, I'd throw in The Penthouse Tapes by The Sensational Alex Harvey Band. Not all covers but mostly. It was very good. But that was 20 years before Quo's effort!
So although Quo are lambasted for doing it/them, Don't Stop has possibly been one of the most successful. That doesn't make it good. It just makes it justified financially. If not artistically.
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Post by blagult on Jan 5, 2021 13:00:19 GMT
I don’t get people who are hung up about the covers albums. Nearly all artists / Bands end up recording one. Bowie done one in the mid 70’s at his peak ! Quo’s has probably been one of the most successful one’s commercially so why not. And just to note Quo were always a Commercial Rock band even at their peak.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 13:48:53 GMT
Covers albums, no matter who does them, always seem pretty naff to me. I think the only one I ever liked most of the tracks on was Reload by Tom Jones. It just seemed to work and he somehow managed to make the general concept quite cool as opposed to desperate. Even those by bands like Rush and, more recently, UFO weren't great. In fact, it was UFO's final album and easily their worst in about two decades! Maybe even their worst ever. Actually, in retrospect, I'd throw in The Penthouse Tapes by The Sensational Alex Harvey Band. Not all covers but mostly. It was very good. But that was 20 years before Quo's effort! So although Quo are lambasted for doing it/them, Don't Stop has possibly been one of the most successful. That doesn't make it good. It just makes it justified financially. If not artistically. As is usually the case you make an interersting point. Cover albums are often not great and I think they are often either a labour of love(pun intended), a contractual oblegation or a marketing ploy. Each has their flaws. I am no great fan of them. Always enjoyed the odd cover, like Quo had done throughout their career but most cover albums are hit and miss and/or pointless in parts. Take Metallica's Garge Inc, they have done some great covers but they add little to the originals. What comes across well live is ok on record but hardly essential. Thats the way I have always considered the many Quo cover albums. Think there are 3. I honestly never play them. Rather listen to their original albums even though they have covers on them.
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mortified
4500 Timer
Posts: 5,775
Favourite Quo Album: Hello!
Favourite other bands.: Sheryl Crow, Gary Numan, Alabama 3, ZZ Top, Paul van Dyk, Jeff Beck, Bowie, Gerry Rafferty, Band of Skulls, UFO, S.A.H.B
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Post by mortified on Jan 5, 2021 14:37:01 GMT
Covers albums, no matter who does them, always seem pretty naff to me. I think the only one I ever liked most of the tracks on was Reload by Tom Jones. It just seemed to work and he somehow managed to make the general concept quite cool as opposed to desperate. Even those by bands like Rush and, more recently, UFO weren't great. In fact, it was UFO's final album and easily their worst in about two decades! Maybe even their worst ever. Actually, in retrospect, I'd throw in The Penthouse Tapes by The Sensational Alex Harvey Band. Not all covers but mostly. It was very good. But that was 20 years before Quo's effort! So although Quo are lambasted for doing it/them, Don't Stop has possibly been one of the most successful. That doesn't make it good. It just makes it justified financially. If not artistically. As is usually the case you make an interersting point. Cover albums are often not great and I think they are often either a labour of love(pun intended), a contractual oblegation or a marketing ploy. Each has their flaws. I am no great fan of them. Always enjoyed the odd cover, like Quo had done throughout their career but most cover albums are hit and miss and/or pointless in parts. Take Metallica's Garge Inc, they have done some great covers but they add little to the originals. What comes across well live is ok on record but hardly essential. Thats the way I have always considered the many Quo cover albums. Think there are 3. I honestly never play them. Rather listen to their original albums even though they have covers on them. I'd forgotten about Garage Inc. I've never heard it all but I didn't particularly like their version of Whisky In The Jar. Mainly because I never really liked the original. That's the thing about covers. If you don't like the original song and the cover sticks to a very similar arrangement, you're not going to like the new version. Very few acts do covers that are so far removed from the original that they stand out. Obviously there's a few but they are by far and away in the minority. But if you have a mo, seek out John Cale's version of Heatbreak Hotel to see what CAN be done with a bit of imagination. Even if you don't like it It's pretty old (mid 70's I'd guess) and from his Slow Dazzle album.
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Post by frozenhero on Jan 5, 2021 17:46:09 GMT
Christ I forgot the b sides. Easily done Temporary friend Mortified Tilting at the mill All rubbish. There was a fourth actually, I'll Never Get Over You. Also, I take offense at Tilting at the Mill being called rubbish. The vocal melody is a bit so-so (reminds me of the PR album) but the song has an energy and a solo from Francis that are at odds with the main album. Even the production sounds better than the album tracks to me. It was absolutely daft! Britpop, Blur vs Oasis...Oasis wearing "Quoasis" t shirts, whilst writing and releasing Quo sounding singles. It was handed to them on a plate... Both you and matt say this... at the risk of sounding daft myself, I'm not hearing it at all. I don't even particularly like Oasis. I remember hearing one of their albums in full and there was one short piece that had a bit of a Quo feel but that's it... I'd forgotten about Garage Inc. I've never heard it all but I didn't particularly like their version of Whisky In The Jar. Mainly because I never really liked the original. That's the thing about covers. If you don't like the original song and the cover sticks to a very similar arrangement, you're not going to like the new version. Very few acts do covers that are so far removed from the original that they stand out. Obviously there's a few but they are by far and away in the minority. But if you have a mo, seek out John Cale's version of Heatbreak Hotel to see what CAN be done with a bit of imagination. Even if you don't like it It's pretty old (mid 70's I'd guess) and from his Slow Dazzle album. I love the Lizzy version of Whisky, and hate Metallica's ham-fisted cover! As for acts who excel at covers, two come to my mind - Manfred Mann and Joe Cocker.
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Post by freewilly on Jan 5, 2021 17:52:29 GMT
Christ I forgot the b sides. Easily done Temporary friend Mortified Tilting at the mill All rubbish. There was a fourth actually, I'll Never Get Over You. Also, I take offense at Tilting at the Mill being called rubbish. The vocal melody is a bit so-so (reminds me of the PR album) but the song has an energy and a solo from Francis that are at odds with the main album. Even the production sounds better than the album tracks to me. It was absolutely daft! Britpop, Blur vs Oasis...Oasis wearing "Quoasis" t shirts, whilst writing and releasing Quo sounding singles. It was handed to them on a plate... Both you and matt say this... at the risk of sounding daft myself, I'm not hearing it at all. I don't even particularly like Oasis. I remember hearing one of their albums in full and there was one short piece that had a bit of a Quo feel but that's it... I'd forgotten about Garage Inc. I've never heard it all but I didn't particularly like their version of Whisky In The Jar. Mainly because I never really liked the original. That's the thing about covers. If you don't like the original song and the cover sticks to a very similar arrangement, you're not going to like the new version. Very few acts do covers that are so far removed from the original that they stand out. Obviously there's a few but they are by far and away in the minority. But if you have a mo, seek out John Cale's version of Heatbreak Hotel to see what CAN be done with a bit of imagination. Even if you don't like it It's pretty old (mid 70's I'd guess) and from his Slow Dazzle album. I love the Lizzy version of Whisky, and hate Metallica's ham-fisted cover! As for acts who excel at covers, two come to my mind - Manfred Mann and Joe Cocker. Damon Albarn said Oasis were a modern day Status Quo...In a snobby tone. So the Gallagher brothers went around wearing "Quoasis" t shirts and talking Quo up...Oasis had the British public in the palm of their hands at the time Quo then sue BBC radio 1 and release Don't Stop... Spectacular own goal
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Post by frozenhero on Jan 5, 2021 18:00:04 GMT
Damon Albarn said Oasis were a modern day Status Quo...In a snobby tone. So the Gallagher brothers went around wearing "Quoasis" t shirts and talking Quo up...Oasis had the British public in the palm of their hands at the time Quo then sue BBC radio 1 and release Don't Stop... Spectacular own goal It definitely shows that they had become out of touch. And that DW was probably wielding too much influence on the band at the time. But matt said earlier in this thread that Oasis were doing Quo better than Quo themselves and I just don't hear much similarity.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jan 5, 2021 18:34:24 GMT
Christ I forgot the b sides. Easily done Temporary friend Mortified Tilting at the mill All rubbish. There was a fourth actually, I'll Never Get Over You. Also, I take offense at Tilting at the Mill being called rubbish. The vocal melody is a bit so-so (reminds me of the PR album) but the song has an energy and a solo from Francis that are at odds with the main album. Even the production sounds better than the album tracks to me. It was absolutely daft! Britpop, Blur vs Oasis...Oasis wearing "Quoasis" t shirts, whilst writing and releasing Quo sounding singles. It was handed to them on a plate... Both you and matt say this... at the risk of sounding daft myself, I'm not hearing it at all. I don't even particularly like Oasis. I remember hearing one of their albums in full and there was one short piece that had a bit of a Quo feel but that's it... I'd forgotten about Garage Inc. I've never heard it all but I didn't particularly like their version of Whisky In The Jar. Mainly because I never really liked the original. That's the thing about covers. If you don't like the original song and the cover sticks to a very similar arrangement, you're not going to like the new version. Very few acts do covers that are so far removed from the original that they stand out. Obviously there's a few but they are by far and away in the minority. But if you have a mo, seek out John Cale's version of Heatbreak Hotel to see what CAN be done with a bit of imagination. Even if you don't like it It's pretty old (mid 70's I'd guess) and from his Slow Dazzle album. I love the Lizzy version of Whisky, and hate Metallica's ham-fisted cover! As for acts who excel at covers, two come to my mind - Manfred Mann and Joe Cocker. I must admit Metallica’s version is poor. It depends what you want but I look further than Cash’s American Recordings.
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Post by dennis on Jan 5, 2021 18:50:49 GMT
Covers albums, no matter who does them, always seem pretty naff to me. I think the only one I ever liked most of the tracks on was Reload by Tom Jones. It just seemed to work and he somehow managed to make the general concept quite cool as opposed to desperate. Even those by bands like Rush and, more recently, UFO weren't great. In fact, it was UFO's final album and easily their worst in about two decades! Maybe even their worst ever. Actually, in retrospect, I'd throw in The Penthouse Tapes by The Sensational Alex Harvey Band. Not all covers but mostly. It was very good. But that was 20 years before Quo's effort! So although Quo are lambasted for doing it/them, Don't Stop has possibly been one of the most successful. That doesn't make it good. It just makes it justified financially. If not artistically. Interesting point about covers albums often being disappointing. The aforementioned Penthouse Tapes by SAHB is an exception to the rule, I suppose, but there are a few decent ones around. Counting Crows' Underwater Sunshine (Or What We Did On Our Summer Vacation) is another good one, imo. Bryan Ferry's first solo album, These Foolish Things, was a cover album as his own material was being channeled into the Roxy Music albums & rather left me cold. Whereas his second album, Another Time, Another Place, was all covers apart from the title track & I think it's an excellent album. As was his third album, Let's Stick Together, where he even covers himself as almost half the album consists of reworkings of songs he'd originally recorded with Roxy Music! UB40's Labour of Love albums were hugely popular, especially the first one. Although I mainly like their first 2 album releases. A clever move to present the covers albums as a series in themselves by reusing the Labour of Love title. Maybe a move that Quo should have considered - it makes the series of covers albums seem more strategic than it probably was. John Fogerty went down the covers route with his first solo album post CCR, Blue Ridge Rangers & revisited it many years later with The Blue Ridge Rangers Rides Again, where he covers himself by revisiting a track from one of his earlier solo albums. Chris Isaak's Beyond The Sun, was a covers album of songs recorded by Sun Records artists such as Presley, Cash, Orbison, Perkins, Lewis. Isaak recorded the album at Sun Studio, Memphis. it's ok, but then again - how do you compete with those original artists. Gary Moore's Blues for Greeny arguably adds little to the originals, nonetheless I really enjoy hearing Moore's take on these numbers - recorded using the same guitar Peter Green had used originally, I wonder who's got it now. Eric Clapton's Me and Mr. Johnson is far removed from Robert Johnson's originals, but still a decent album, imo. Of course, a few artists have covered themselves by re-recording old material - either because the original tracks were recorded so long ago & the quality isn't so great in retrospect, or due to a change in record co. & a desire on the part of the new label to capitalise on the hits recorded on the old label(s). EDIT: I forgot to mention The The's marvelous Hank Williams album, Hanky Panky!
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
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Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Jan 5, 2021 19:39:54 GMT
here's another decent one for your list dennis... 'Songs from the Mirror' by Fish - not bad at all and does credit to all the tunes on there imho!
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Post by dennis on Jan 5, 2021 19:51:54 GMT
here's another decent one for your list dennis ... 'Songs from the Mirror' by Fish - not bad at all and does credit to all the tunes on there imho! I'll have to look it up - not too familiar with Mr Fish or that Mary Lyon that he split from
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Post by frozenhero on Jan 5, 2021 20:20:25 GMT
Gary Moore's Blues for Greeny arguably adds little to the originals, nonetheless I really enjoy hearing Moore's take on these numbers - recorded using the same guitar Peter Green had used originally, I wonder who's got it now.Kirk Hammett from Metallica! Speaking of Gary, there is also his live performance of an all-Hendrix tribute. Of course live is something different but I do enjoy that - and he only played Strats & a Flying V at the night. Gary himself got no less than three tribute albums (Siggi Schwarz, Henrik Freischlader, Bob Daisley), all with their pros & cons. But I digress. Fish's Songs from the Mirror is an odd one. A bit like the Quo covers, it came at a critical point, and in his case, I think it did more bad than good for his career.
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