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Post by rossiswaistcoat on Dec 30, 2020 10:39:12 GMT
It feels like the band are trying to write this era out of the bands history. I've just bought the Cross Purposes CD to replace my lost copy. The albums are not available to stream. Seems mad to me that such a big band can have some it's work hidden from view.
I think he's got a great voice, I really like lots of that era. They were excellent on the Headless Cross tour
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Post by madturk on Dec 31, 2020 0:21:16 GMT
I tried to get into some of his stuff. But after watching a couple of interviews on YouTube I was put off. He had a really snarky way of talking, like he still has a chip on his shoulder about not getting the recognition for being with Sabbath so long.
I will give his era another go at some point.
About the albums being deleted, it got me thinking...
I don’t know why but I always wondered if Tony Martin ever made enough out of music to tide him over through the years.
If they are deleted, then there must be less chance of royalties.
Look at John Coghlan, with not many songwriting credits he won’t make as much from radio or online.
You hear a lot about rock stars ending up with a lot less money than you would have assumed.
Lemmy didn’t leave anything like what people guessed in his will.
Neither did Rick Parfitt. But I read somewhere that Philthy Animal Taylor left £1,000,000.
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Post by gerh on Dec 31, 2020 0:29:53 GMT
As a matter of interest rossiswaistcoat - what would you say is the best NON-Ozzy or Dio Sabbath album? [Not counting 'Born Again' - which I love!] I'm not a big Ozzy-fronted Sabbath fan at all [far prefer RJD's efforts with them] but I've always wondered if any of their 'other' albums were any good. |
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Post by charles on Dec 31, 2020 8:04:46 GMT
Born Again -liked it at the time so bought it, but nowadays I can't listen to it in its entirety anymore. Gillan's voice is wearing me down too much. (I've got the same problem with Cormac Neeson's efforts on the otherwise brilliant 'Rise', The Answer). Both singers have become better in my opinion with their later albums. I really like vocalists that can howl and wail, but please: not all the time. That is why The Answer's Solas (2016) is such a great album, albeit shamelessly underrated.
Now to answer your question for rossiswaistcoat: I haven't got all the Sabbath albums between Ozzy and Ronnie and Ozzy, but I thought Headless Cross was decent.
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Post by mortified on Dec 31, 2020 8:24:02 GMT
I haven't owned a Black Sabbath album since Vol IV. Me mum got it for me Christmas. I really liked it but for some reason I never revisited them. Not to any great extent anyway. The odd single. And I can offer no explanation why  My loss I expect. |
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Post by rossiswaistcoat on Dec 31, 2020 12:49:41 GMT
madturkgerhcharlesWhen Iommi brought out his book, he slagged Martin off. Zero stage presence, unprofessional etc. He says no issue was ever raised while he was in the band. I can totally understand him feeling very pissed. Not a million miles away from Blaze/Maiden situation. I thought he was great live, really powerful voice. The opening song of the show, Headless Cross, for me classic Sabbath. I don't have all the Sabbath albums, probs missing 3 or 4. I never liked the idea of Gillan being in the band so never gave it a chance. I'd plump for Cross Purposes. Headless Cross is a good album but at times veers too far into "Sabbath done the Bon Jovi way". I'd say Tyr is the weakest Martin era album, but even that has two or 3 I really like, eg "The Sabbath Stones"
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Post by madturk on Dec 31, 2020 16:20:05 GMT
For Iommi, Martin was just another “stand-in” band member. Like all the others. The eventual goal of an Ozzy and Bill reunion was always on the cards. They did Live Aid 1985, and brief reunion in 1993. Then a world tour in 1997.
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My loss I expect. 
