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Post by donttastemywine on Oct 31, 2020 16:13:14 GMT
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Post by 37 on Nov 1, 2020 11:31:56 GMT
So basically Annie Nightingale was sticking up for Quo due to the fact Mick Jagger and the other chap obviously hated them!
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Post by quovadis on Nov 1, 2020 14:17:33 GMT
Who cares about jagger he can't even sing the song wyp doesn't do them any justice imo of coarse
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 1, 2020 18:30:45 GMT
I could never stand the stones. Never understood how they could be so big
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Post by freewilly on Nov 1, 2020 18:50:57 GMT
I could never stand the stones. Never understood how they could be so big Right place, right time. I say that as a fan of the Stones As for Mick Jagger...Given his output since 1972, probably best he pipe down with the criticism Although, WYP on record ain't up to much. Good song live though
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 1, 2020 19:28:20 GMT
I could never stand the stones. Never understood how they could be so big Right place, right time. I say that as a fan of the Stones As for Mick Jagger...Given his output since 1972, probably best he pipe down with the criticism Although, WYP on record ain't up to much. Good song live though Maybe it is one of those 'you had to be there' kind of band
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Post by freewilly on Nov 1, 2020 20:53:30 GMT
Right place, right time. I say that as a fan of the Stones As for Mick Jagger...Given his output since 1972, probably best he pipe down with the criticism Although, WYP on record ain't up to much. Good song live though Maybe it is one of those 'you had to be there' kind of band Ah The Stones in/on their day are/were a fantastic band...Good swing to them, good rock n roll. Lost something massive when Brian Jones died or was sacked. However you wanna put it From an output point of view though, the well dried up in 1972 in my opinion.
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Post by azza200 on Nov 1, 2020 21:31:10 GMT
How keef richards is still alive is a mystery to science lol
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Nov 1, 2020 22:16:10 GMT
Don't have any problem with Jagger and the Stones. They wrote the book in a sense along with The Beatles in terms of the rock n' pop music 'revolution' in the 60s. Though The Stones were derivative as any in terms of their material. I know it's only rock and roll but I like it!
Odd argument from Jagger as for me WYP isn't especially derivative...derivative of what exactly? In Quo terms WYP sounds 'new' and very different to previous material. Jagger said no doubt it would sell, in a slightly patronising way. Well it certainly did. It was a massive hit for Quo and just kept off the No. 1 spot by Babs Streisand. That would have been satisfying if Quo had hit the No. 1 as no doubt Jagger would have been aware at that point.
Don't want to get into any of that "well the Birdie Song was a massive hit" stuff as just think the public at large really got WYP as something different and valid in an era when it involved some effort with a trip to the record shops to get your hands on the vinyl. The public can be trusted sometimes and WYP was massive.
Jagger had possibly been in that 'bubble' we hear about and not really in touch at that time. I went to the Princes Trust gig at Wembley Arena in 1986 and the rock and pop hierarchy of that time were on stage there, incredible line up really, including Jagger and those two other blokes...Rossi and Parfitt I think their names were!
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Post by rockonquo on Nov 2, 2020 0:02:06 GMT
Don't know Mick had anything to do with this, but at 3:19 Francis & Rick.
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Post by mortified on Nov 2, 2020 8:47:35 GMT
I haven't listened to it but who raised the subject of Quo and why? I can't really see the point. Francis probably doesn't like the Stones. We know he doesn't exactly admire Keef But what's the relevance exactly? I have to confess to being a Stones fan and treasure the Mick Taylor years more than any others, although I'd recommend Bridges To Babylon to anyone. Cracking album. That was the late 90's I think. Seen them a few times since 1999 but I never saw them before that.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 2, 2020 10:58:34 GMT
I haven't listened to it but who raised the subject of Quo and why? I can't really see the point. Francis probably doesn't like the Stones. We know he doesn't exactly admire Keef But what's the relevance exactly? I have to confess to being a Stones fan and treasure the Mick Taylor years more than any others, although I'd recommend Bridges To Babylon to anyone. Cracking album. That was the late 90's I think. Seen them a few times since 1999 but I never saw them before that. What has Francis said about Keef? I dont know any of that ! Bill Whyman was a Quo fan
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Post by mortified on Nov 2, 2020 11:33:51 GMT
I haven't listened to it but who raised the subject of Quo and why? I can't really see the point. Francis probably doesn't like the Stones. We know he doesn't exactly admire Keef But what's the relevance exactly? I have to confess to being a Stones fan and treasure the Mick Taylor years more than any others, although I'd recommend Bridges To Babylon to anyone. Cracking album. That was the late 90's I think. Seen them a few times since 1999 but I never saw them before that. What has Francis said about Keef? I dont know any of that ! Bill Whyman was a Quo fan I can't remember precisely but he was less than complimentary in an interview a year or two back about the way he looked and acted. I disagreed entirely (Keef's a legend ) but Francis can be quite conservative and even old fashioned in his views. I think he's been in the bubble too long and has missed the point about having heroes when you're younger and wanting them to be rebellious. That was whole point when I was a teenager. Francis was in a successful band by then and never did the things most of us did. I'm allowing him that excuse because he's MY hero Incidentally, talking of Bill Wyman, me & Mrs Mortified went to see the band get some sort of award at the Dorchester Hotel in London in 2010 and at the reception beforehand, all manner of celebs (mostly b-list) were there. Bill Wyman was milling around with his wife. He eventually got out of his tree and was dragged home I loved that. He was in his 70's then!
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Post by unspokenwords on Nov 2, 2020 13:49:35 GMT
I agree with Jagger about WYP being derivative, and not very good derivative at that (in my opinion). Just ok of a song in my opinion and not one i listen to or would particularly want to listen to.
However this is also a case of the 'kettle calling the pot black'.
If Quo are derivative of the blues and rock' roll tradition, I think they ironically put their own stamp on the 12-bar and boogie which is a difficult thing to do.
The Stones on the other hand were; in my opinion, a white band who stole the black mans music and made it popular but they were in this highly derivative, did not stray too much form the blues of the old black musicians and did not really put their own print on the music.
When a Quo record came on, like them or hate them, you knew who it was (as with many other artists) but the Stones could be any blues/rock artist really. In saying that I do like a lot of their material.
What i do not appreciate is Jaggers snide remarks and his middle class twat attitude that Quo were derivative and by inference that he and the Stones were not and were in comparison some type of great original artists, when they were really only polished forms of Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf.
At least Francis and Co did not present themselves like this and openly admitted they were not great historians and knowledgable about the roots of blues but learnt it second hand from other white musicians. They were in this sense honest, while Jagger would tend to be up his own backside in a sense.
It is also hard to believe that Jagger states he does not know who Quo were or know any of them! What planet was he living on at this time if his musical knowledge was so limited and at a time when many in the UK were, in terms of this type of rock, mentioning the Stones regularly when reviewing or talking about Quo. They had been around the music scene and charts for decades. and as long as/during the same period as the Stones.
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Post by mortified on Nov 2, 2020 14:02:48 GMT
I agree with Jagger about WYP being derivative, and not very good derivative at that (in my opinion). Just ok of a song in my opinion and not one i listen to or would particularly want to listen to. However this is also a case of the 'kettle calling the pot black'. If Quo are derivative of the blues and rock' roll tradition, I think they ironically put their own stamp on the 12-bar and boogie which is a difficult thing to do. The Stones on the other hand were; in my opinion, a white band who stole the black mans music and made it popular but they were in this highly derivative, did not stray too much form the blues of the old black musicians and did not really put their own print on the music. When a Quo record came on, like them or hate them, you knew who it was (as with many other artists) but the Stones could be any blues/rock artist really. In saying that I do like a lot of their material. What i do not appreciate is Jaggers snide remarks and his middle class twat attitude that Quo were derivative and by inference that he and the Stones were not and were in comparison some type of great original artists, when they were really only polished forms of Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf. At least Francis and Co did not present themselves like this and openly admitted they were not great historians and knowledgable about the roots of blues but learnt it second hand from other white musicians. They were in this sense honest, while Jagger would tend to be up his own backside in a sense. It is also hard to believe that Jagger states he does not know who Quo were or know any of them! What planet was he living on at this time if his musical knowledge was so limited and at a time when many in the UK were, in terms of this type of rock, mentioning the Stones regularly when reviewing or talking about Quo. They had been around the music scene and charts for decades. and as long as/during the same period as the Stones. On the money. Exile On Main Street is a superb album but it's still the blues. No point pretending otherwise. And where we have Thirsty Work to live with (live down? ), the Stones have Emotional Rescue. It's pretty dreadful.
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