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Post by markquo on Aug 29, 2020 21:38:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 23:41:04 GMT
Interesting listen and some very accurate points about the music industry down the years. Good that he sounds less bitter now too. What a dreadful interviewer though, patronising voice and spewing out hackneyed platitudes.
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 30, 2020 9:55:45 GMT
I don't get why Alan constantly bangs on about the fact that Rossi was never on their tour bus like Rick was... it literally set Rick back to his old ways and ultimately led to his death in the end.
Francis even admitted that he ended up getting back into coke in the early 90s after having a drink and being offered it. Once an addict, always an addict... you've just got to remove yourself from those situations where you feel you could fall to temptation again.
And saying him and John were way above standard, but worried about Francis and Rick? bullshit. John was awful that first tour back.
Prefer interviews with John these days, as he's over what happened back in the 80s whereas Alan is still bitter as always.
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Post by gerh on Aug 30, 2020 10:44:46 GMT
"I don't get why Alan constantly bangs on about the fact that Rossi was never on their tour bus like Rick was... it literally set Rick back to his old ways and ultimately led to his death in the end... "
Yikes! Is this really true? I'm not really all that much into the various [and, for me, tiresome] shenanigans, so I honestly don't know. The music's always been [just about] enough for me! G
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Post by gav on Aug 30, 2020 11:10:27 GMT
Sounds like a guy more reflective and forgiving these days, like he's trying to live out the rest of his life with a bit more understanding of and peace from what's gone before.
Interesting he talks about "dementia" a lot - wonder if it's on his mind a lot and he's feeling old these days.
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Post by vivfromcov on Aug 30, 2020 11:38:56 GMT
Interesting to hear his thoughts. Shame the four tracks have not been completed but as he said, the cost of producing music is so high that getting a return to make it viable is paramount. I think that’s why he wanted Francis to be involved, so it could be a Status Quo product that would obviously sell more. But more so it’s sad that him and Francis lost their friendship again after being reconciled.
I think that’s a bit unfair QI to blame Rick’s death on the partying on the bus during the reunion tour. I don’t know what happened but personally I think it was more due to the excessive strain of that last world Quo tour. With his health risks I thought it was madness to have so many dates when they should have been winding down. I think there were money issues though (particularly for Rick), so they just kept adding more and more.
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Post by dennis on Aug 30, 2020 11:45:17 GMT
Interesting to hear his thoughts. Shame the four tracks have not been completed but as he said, the cost of producing music is so high that getting a return to make it viable is paramount. I think that’s why he wanted Francis to be involved, so it could be a Status Quo product that would obviously sell more. But more so it’s sad that him and Francis lost their friendship again after being reconciled. I think that’s a bit unfair QI to blame Rick’s death on the partying on the bus during the reunion tour. I don’t know what happened but personally I think it was more due to the excessive strain of that last world Quo tour. With his health risks I thought it was madness to have so many dates when they should have been winding down. I think there were money issues though (particularly for Rick), so they just kept adding more and more. That's an interesting point you raise. As I recall, there was talk around the time of the Reunion tours that they couldn't pack in as dense a touring schedule as usual & that made it harder to ensure the viability of the tours.
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Post by matt on Aug 30, 2020 12:10:33 GMT
I think Rossi needs to be given more credit for his abstinence.
He is an ex alcoholic ex drug addict living in a world where those substances are easy to get and easy to turn to.
If he stayed on the bus on his own to prevent his life potentially turning to shit again that takes a tremendous amount of fortitude.
It’s not just about socialising etc. It’s about finding a place where as a 65 year old you feel comfortable.
Rossi has said that the reunion tours reintroduced Rick to a wilder way of life. I can imagine completely why he wants to avoid those people and situations
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Post by railroad007 on Aug 30, 2020 14:23:09 GMT
Sounds like a guy more reflective and forgiving these days, like he's trying to live out the rest of his life with a bit more understanding of and peace from what's gone before. Interesting he talks about "dementia" a lot - wonder if it's on his mind a lot and he's feeling old these days. It's because he know's about this board and that we're all demented.
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Aug 30, 2020 17:56:38 GMT
I don't get why Alan constantly bangs on about the fact that Rossi was never on their tour bus like Rick was... it literally set Rick back to his old ways and ultimately led to his death in the end. Francis even admitted that he ended up getting back into coke in the early 90s after having a drink and being offered it. Once an addict, always an addict... you've just got to remove yourself from those situations where you feel you could fall to temptation again. And saying him and John were way above standard, but worried about Francis and Rick? bullshit. John was awful that first tour back. Prefer interviews with John these days, as he's over what happened back in the 80s whereas Alan is still bitter as always. Rick admitted going on stage hungover on that tour . It was another nail in the coffin of another tour happening again. Francis could see all the bad old habits in the band resurfacing and coupled with Alan’s health , quite rightly couldn’t see it continuing . I bet in Francis’ mind the best bits were the fact that Spud played well and the end of it all !
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 30, 2020 18:24:14 GMT
"SQ have cost me more money than I ever made from it"
Bloody hell !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 18:25:40 GMT
Rick did not go back to his bad old ways by being on a tour bus with Alan, John and Bob for a few weeks. He'd never left them behind. Despite the serious throat problems ruining his voice and his heart problems leaving him on a knife edge of having to retire from touring years ago, he carried on smoking and being a heavy drinker, no matter what impression he tried to give the press. These facts coupled with the fact he still would not stop living the rockstar life style he led in the 80s and 90s when money was flowing in and so was financially crippled, forcing him to keep touring and yet another failing marriage plus a certain ex wife sniffing round yet again, it was all this that so diminished his physical health prior to the infection that killed him. Not getting drunk with three of his oldest friends.
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Post by musiktruhe on Aug 30, 2020 18:30:54 GMT
I think this is a very good description of the situation of Rick.
I have read an interview with an german journalist he had interviewed Rick 2010 hours before a gig in Hamburg and he was astonished what he had smoked and drunk before the gig.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Aug 30, 2020 19:48:08 GMT
Sounds like a guy more reflective and forgiving these days, like he's trying to live out the rest of his life with a bit more understanding of and peace from what's gone before. Interesting he talks about "dementia" a lot - wonder if it's on his mind a lot and he's feeling old these days. Once you've had to deal with a parent who is falling into dementia, your own mortality comes several steps closer, and Al's health is a bit shaky in a non-related way, which brings it closer. He always was into finding out more about things, and he wont' find anything to comfort him about his ma in law, so it's not surprising it's on his mind.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Aug 31, 2020 1:37:28 GMT
That's an impressive guest list that Cat has interviewed over the years.
I like the fact that she actually lets her guests talk at length without interjecting at the wrong moments or competing with her guests, as such. Have listened to plenty of interviews where it seems it is as much about the host's ego as it is about their guests. Don't seem to get that with Cat.
As Tony mentioned on here, the reunions didn't suddenly turn Rick back into a party animal and having everything large after a period of abstinence. Just something that was part of his character and that monkey on his back. Rick and Rhino (and possibly Andy B) used to have a few sherbets to say the least after gigs on the coach for a time.
In a way Francis hasn't completely changed. He used to say back in the 70s that he used to end up annoying everyone because he wouldn't go out after gigs etc and preferred to stay in his hotel room with his tapes, the funny cigarettes and enjoying the company of a few chosen ones, massaging his ego, if you pardon the expression.
Didn't Rhino, Leon and Richie get into hot water with Francis not so long ago as they had been out the night before a gig and worse for wear the next day? Though Francis said that he got over it once he had his chips after the gig!
Alan and John possibly have different perspectives and Alan still seems a little bit resentful but camouflaging it as best he can. Perhaps he felt he was the leader of the band in their early (school) formative years and therefore unable to let go in a sense. Jess J alluded to this in an interview about Alan being in charge.
Interesting that Alan touched on dementia and something that many of us can relate to with our own relatives. I had been reading a great deal about narcissism as well and other conditions not so long ago and finding that it was helping to understand things that were going on in my life and potentially explaining the actions of others.
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