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Post by sqcollector on Oct 2, 2020 0:49:27 GMT
Though apparently the wah guitar is present on the mono version of POMM but not on the stereo version. Again, I believe that's the keyboards, not the guitar. Yeah, this is present in the whole mix. Doesn't come from a single instrument. I think that Francis is that kind of guy that just wants to play the songs and have fun. Having a Wah pedal would be something to tie him to the pedal, or a specific zone of the stage. It's also something more he needs to control and worry about. He just wants to have his freedom. Knowing what I know of Francis that's what it seems. Neither of him and Rick used some richer effects. It's also their style. And the Quo sound is more on the raw side as well. Francis also never performed some superb solos or anything. I'm not saying this in a criticizing way. It's just how he is. They are not a band of guitar solos. They are more about the rhythm. You can almost see both Rick and Francis as two rhythm guitarists. With the exception Francis plays some solos and melodies. Wah wah is used more in solos or in some funky guitar, often palm muted as well. Not their style.
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nino
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Favourite Quo Album: Hello!
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Post by nino on Oct 2, 2020 7:37:47 GMT
Though apparently the wah guitar is present on the mono version of POMM but not on the stereo version. Again, I believe that's the keyboards, not the guitar. You can almost see both Rick and Francis as two rhythm guitarists. With the exception Francis plays some solos and melodies. That's exactly what he himself says on the TPAOY documentary: Some people tend to think that the rhythm guitar is kind of the second fiddle or something. But that's not true. We're two rhythm guitarists playing together and I happen to play lead every now and then - or something along the lines.
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Post by sqcollector on Oct 2, 2020 11:13:54 GMT
That's exactly what he himself says on the TPAOY documentary: Some people tend to think that the rhythm guitar is kind of the second fiddle or something. But that's not true. We're two rhythm guitarists playing together and I happen to play lead every now and then - or something along the lines. Oh, really? ahah Makes sense to me ahahah Good to know! Thanks!
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 2, 2020 16:57:09 GMT
I thought there was also a wah-wah rhythm guitar in POMM. Either way, it's curious he never seems to have embraced the effect given how prominent it is in a lot of rock music (even with guys like Kirk Hammett). It is curious and something that has crossed my mind over the years. Wah pedals are a staple on plenty of pedal-boards of the good and the great but not with Quo. In some cases the Wah pedal comes top of the "if you could only have one pedal, what would it be?" list. He has dabbled with slide guitar here and there but not the Wah as far as I can remember. Though apparently the wah guitar is present on the mono version of POMM but not on the stereo version. The phasing effects are courtesy of the engineer I believe. I suppose it may come down to Francis not seeing himself in the same way as the obvious guitar heroes such as Clapton and Hendrix. All about the song for Francis and not about the solo. Rhythm wise it can be associated more with funk so definitely not Quo's bag. On stage it would just get in the way of the performance I would think. Good points all around. Though seeing that a lot of Quo songs never got a live outing, they really could've dabbled a bit more with experimentation on the studio albums, not worrying about how to play the songs live... And yes, the guitar part I was thinking of is in the mono mix, after about a minute in.
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Post by paradiseflats on Oct 2, 2020 18:02:02 GMT
Can you use Zoom? Might have saved his live webshow
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gav
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Post by gav on Oct 2, 2020 19:47:57 GMT
Good points all around. Though seeing that a lot of Quo songs never got a live outing, they really could've dabbled a bit more with experimentation on the studio albums, not worrying about how to play the songs live... That was their thing though wasn't it? Their modus operandi... In the glory days, the songs were worked up with a 'performance' in mind - Alan in particular talks a lot about this. And through this, they succeeded in producing the punchy, raw performances we hear on record. And made us want to go out and catch a show.
Of course they changed the formula with the RAOTW album, and the results were unnatural.
Maybe they found a happy medium for a few albums though? WYW > NTL.
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Post by Gaz on Oct 3, 2020 11:25:23 GMT
What songs, from 72-77 would you wish you could touch up a bit for the better? For example I always wished your lead break in Rain had lasted longer...it was way too short..... just as we were getting ‘into the groove’... you finished it!! aagghhh😫
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Post by charles on Oct 3, 2020 15:05:27 GMT
What songs, from 72-77 would you wish you could touch up a bit for the better? For example I always wished your lead break in Rain had lasted longer...it was way too short..... just as we were getting ‘into the groove’... you finished it!! aagghhh😫 Don't you dare ask him that. I don't want him to fiddle with the classics: he would add drum computers, midgets-on tricycle-keyboards and dog-annoyingly-high pitched backing vocals.
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 4, 2020 9:22:01 GMT
Good points all around. Though seeing that a lot of Quo songs never got a live outing, they really could've dabbled a bit more with experimentation on the studio albums, not worrying about how to play the songs live... That was their thing though wasn't it? Their modus operandi... In the glory days, the songs were worked up with a 'performance' in mind - Alan in particular talks a lot about this. And through this, they succeeded in producing the punchy, raw performances we hear on record. And made us want to go out and catch a show.
Of course they changed the formula with the RAOTW album, and the results were unnatural.
Maybe they found a happy medium for a few albums though? WYW > NTL.
I was thinking more along the lines of later albums (especially those with Pip) which were studio creations anyway. (But even from the classic era, it's still strange to think how much was never done live.)
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Post by azza200 on Oct 7, 2020 21:47:49 GMT
The Wall of Death speakers/amps you had on stage in the mid 90's is that too macho for you now?
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 8, 2020 20:34:09 GMT
I don't really see the point. In-ear monitoring is simply better for so many reasons. Yeah, big stacks are a r'n'r cliché but when Rush "lost" their amps, they replaced them with washing machines and stuff...
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