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Post by Victor on Aug 1, 2020 19:49:05 GMT
Looking forward to sharing opinions/thoughts again
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Post by quovadis on Aug 2, 2020 8:24:21 GMT
Not a favorite of mine by any means too poppy as the the title track pop no rockers on this album I do like dmiid l no your leaving 5 out of 10 for me
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Post by markquo on Aug 2, 2020 8:30:42 GMT
Cream of the Crop was really good live,still like the studio version . Lean Machine would have been a better album track than nonsense like Burning Bridges which I still hate to this day. Title track is truly shocking Cheers
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Aug 2, 2020 11:57:10 GMT
At that time, the band were setting their stall out as a 'something for everyone' band. Though as is often the case in such a scenario you can end up not pleasing anyone completely. A bit of a jamboree bag of an album and lucky if able to find any real gems as no obvious cohesive theme running through, except with a few of Rick's tracks, for better or worse. Those tracks seemed to be going for an American style/sound/keyboards in the production ( eg 'Why Can't This Be Love' Van Halen etc etc) but no escaping the fact that Rick had a very Brit vocal style. Though curiously Pip has since said that Rick had been influenced by The Edge and U2 with 'One For Money'. Rick had been interested in the guitar delay effects that The Edge had been using on U2 tracks. Rick later said that this particular album had no edge! Though I always thought that track sounded more Harold Faltermeyer than U2! This had been the album where Pip has also said that he had to carry on without the band in the late stages of the recordings as the band had to go elsewhere on business. 'Don't Mind If I Do' is a standout for me, though a curiosity as the lead guitar sections shift from minor to major. Possibly Pip supplying the first minor solo in an almost Genesis style then it's probably Francis coming in with a major solo taken, note for note, from the 'In Your Eyes' track from the Army album. Had been interesting to see a few of the tracks played on stage when I went to Wembley Arena in '88, as used to think that was Quo's main strength by recording tracks that could transfer over to the stage quite well. I can remember Pip making a guest appearance on stage. Rossi was out of breath after ripping through 'Cream of The Crop'! He said that the Record Company were right... "there are too many words in that song!" I can't knock 'Burning Bridges' for that reason, with songs from albums working live on stage. Not much to it, but it seems to get the punters jumping about and putting smiles on (some!) faces. The cutting room floor tracks such as 'The Reason For Goodbye'/'Lean Machine' etc could have lifted the album and given it a bit more validity.
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Aug 2, 2020 15:45:19 GMT
Never a favourite of mine, although far from their worst. I actually really like the title track, particularly the 12"/CD single version. It has a nice groove in the middle section. The rest of the album never really hit the spot for me, although I didn't specifically dislike any of the songs. They were just sort of average to middling and quite easy to switch off from. The best stuff like Reason For Goodbye, Lean Machine and The Greatest Fighter were left off for whatever reason. For me, the album is fairly bland all the way through and that blandness carried through to the next release as well. Took them 3 years to get their act together again. Love it or hate it, Burning Bridges is a bit of a classic. I don't mind it. It's sort of Hold You Back with the breaks on and good fun live. Although as I got older, sticking it in the encore was a real challenge for my ageing muscles The gigs for the 1988 tour were blinding. Among the very best. But with new material, Quo had lost their way. I think as fretbuzzzzz says, there was an element of trying to have something for everyone but ending up pleasing no one. Sometimes there are just too many songwriters so what you end up with is a mish mash of styles. There were something like a dozen writing credits on this album. It shows. 6 out of 10.
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Post by Victor on Aug 2, 2020 18:20:13 GMT
At that time, the band were setting their stall out as a 'something for everyone' band. Though as is often the case in such a scenario you can end up not pleasing anyone completely. A bit of a jamboree bag of an album and lucky if able to find any real gems as no obvious cohesive theme running through, except with a few of Rick's tracks, for better or worse. Those tracks seemed to be going for an American style/sound/keyboards in the production ( eg 'Why Can't This Be Love' Van Halen etc etc) but no escaping the fact that Rick had a very Brit vocal style. Though curiously Pip has since said that Rick had been influenced by The Edge and U2 with 'One For Money'. Rick had been interested in the guitar delay effects that The Edge had been using on U2 tracks. Rick later said that this particular album had no edge! Though I always thought that track sounded more Harold Faltermeyer than U2! This had been the album where Pip has also said that he had to carry on without the band in the late stages of the recordings as the band had to go elsewhere on business. 'Don't Mind If I Do' is a standout for me, though a curiosity as the lead guitar sections shift from minor to major. Possibly Pip supplying the first minor solo in an almost Genesis style then it's probably Francis coming in with a major solo taken, note for note, from the 'In Your Eyes' track from the Army album. Had been interesting to see a few of the tracks played on stage when I went to Wembley Arena in '88, as used to think that was Quo's main strength by recording tracks that could transfer over to the stage quite well. I can remember Pip making a guest appearance on stage. Rossi was out of breath after ripping through 'Cream of The Crop'! He said that the Record Company were right... "there are too many words in that song!" I can't knock 'Burning Bridges' for that reason, with songs from albums working live on stage. Not much to it, but it seems to get the punters jumping about and putting smiles on (some!) faces. The cutting room floor tracks such as 'The Reason For Goodbye'/'Lean Machine' etc could have lifted the album and given it a bit more validity. Yep. Don't mind if I do is THE track on the album that stands out for me as well. And never understood why they didn't include The reason for Goodbye, Lean Machine and The Greates Fighter, would certainly have made the album better, espeially if those had been put there instead of stuff like One for the Money and Another Shipwreck
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gerh
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Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
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Post by gerh on Aug 2, 2020 19:09:04 GMT
I'll wait 'til September's AotM ! G
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Post by Victor on Aug 2, 2020 19:13:58 GMT
I'll wait 'til September's AotM ! G I have a feeling it will be longer then that mate, not many albums left anymore and i've put up all the good ones...but every album should get a chance.
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gerh
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Posts: 2,953
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Aug 2, 2020 19:18:38 GMT
I'll wait 'til September's AotM ! G I have a feeling it will be longer then that mate, not many albums left anymore and i've put up all the good ones...but every album should get a chance. Aye - I guessed that we were waaaay past '...all the good ones...' when I saw this come up!! Victor
I'm sorry I just can't go back to AC - it was the album where I knew for sure I was finished with post-JC&AL Quo [well, at least until QPQ came along and then the Reunions] G
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Post by Victor on Aug 2, 2020 19:22:51 GMT
I have a feeling it will be longer then that mate, not many albums left anymore and i've put up all the good ones...but every album should get a chance. Aye - I guessed that we were waaaay past '...all the good ones...' when I saw this come up!! Victor
I'm sorry I just can't go back to AC - it was the album where I knew for sure I was finished with post-JC&AL Quo [well, at least until QPQ came along and then the Reunions] G No need to be sorry. It's one of my least liked albums as well. Yea QPQ I really liked as well ! Although I was also pleased with Under the Influence
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,953
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Aug 2, 2020 19:25:45 GMT
Hmm - I still haven't heard UTI!! [That's what AC did to me!!! ] G
[Edit: Right, just heard UTI! Not impressed, to say the least! One good song 'Shine On' (I think it was called?!) G]
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Post by kursaal75 on Aug 2, 2020 19:44:48 GMT
My first thoughts about the album was, what a crap cover, but I did like the title track, (but that didn't last) and it was my first Quo CD single. Didn't go much on the album and I haven't played it for years. I preferred Andy Bown's original version of Another Shipwreck and as mentioned by Markquo I did enjoy the live version of Cream Of The Crop. I must admit I did like Burning Bridges as it worked well live, but my favourite track from the album, Who Gets The Love? especially the 7:00 extended cd single version. 5/10
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Aug 2, 2020 22:41:11 GMT
Aint Complaining the song is bearable. Burning Bridges turned out to work well live, but it sounds to me like a leftover out take from Hold You Back. Corss that Bridge I quite like. Dont Mind If I Do is by far the best, but it's over dressed, I keep wanting to peel off all the layers and fluff. With that it would make a pretty good track. I would like to hear it live. The rest varies from uninteresting to downright irritating.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 23:22:56 GMT
Essentially a Pip Williams solo album with contributions from Quo but at the time I did like some of it, some of it was typical Pip, smooth and way too over produced for Quo. Best songs for me were Andy's contributions. I did think it was odd Pip had so many writing credits and it was so obvious from the first listen that much of the lead work was him not Francis, Pip having such an easily recognizable style. I know Burning Bridges is anathema to many on this board but there's a song that has brought so much enjoyment to thousands of people at gigs over the decades. What more can a musician hope for when he writes a song?
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Post by 4th Chord on Aug 3, 2020 9:51:35 GMT
An album I only ever play to test if my speakers are wired up correctly.
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