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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Jun 23, 2020 21:01:51 GMT
Following on from the Ain’t Complaining and On The Level threads, I got to thinking about a point that rarely ever surfaces:
- negative things about your favourite Quo album
- positive things about your least favourite Quo album
For example,
- Just Supposin’: personal favourite, love it front to back and back to the front again, but I always feel like there’s 3 minutes too much of Coming And Going that fail to do either
- Perfect Remedy: pretty bloody unlike Quo, but there’s some very nice production work on there, and arguably the best 80s Quo-production from Back To Back onwards. BTB-AC all tend to tread just a wee bit too far into the ‘over-produced territory, whereas PR has the best balance of all the 80s elements in the aforementioned albums, just not the material to truly benefit from it.
Well?
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 25, 2020 18:19:59 GMT
Good idea for a topic.
Problem is I really don't have gripes at all with my favourite four or five Quo albums
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 25, 2020 18:27:30 GMT
Good idea for a topic. Problem is I really don't have gripes at all with my favourite four or five Quo albums Although I’m probably more critical. I don’t listen to music I don’t like. As a result I really don’t know about their worst albums. I certainly don’t know enough about them to say that much positive about them. I will say about On the level. It could have been longer. |
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Post by charles on Jun 25, 2020 21:08:46 GMT
Riffs: the covers were piss poor, but what a title!
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jun 25, 2020 21:10:20 GMT
The one problem I have with Hello is that it isn't Piledriver, and the one problem I have with Piledriver is, that it isn't Hello.
IYCSTH has Accident Prone on it, but I bought the single, so it's only a theoretical advantage.
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Post by dennis on Jun 26, 2020 0:18:24 GMT
Piledriver's my favourite but if I had to find fault with it then I would question the exclusion of Softer Ride from the album. I'm sure they could have squeezed a 9th track on, it would still be less than 22 minutes per side.
The best thing about what I consider the weakest album '70-'81, Never Too Late, is that amongst all the poorly assembled collection of leftovers there is at least one of the two covers they needed to try and fashion an album (& with a track they could release as a single, too) that shows the old band could still play a bit of rock & roll: their quite decent cover of Chuck Berry's Carol.
Btw, I don't get the comments about Coming & Going at all, it's one of the best tracks on the Just Supposin' album, imo & doesn't feel too long to me at all. If you're going to cut out over half of it then it may as well not be there.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jun 26, 2020 1:58:49 GMT
Piledriver's my favourite but if I had to find fault with it then I would question the exclusion of Softer Ride from the album. I'm sure they could have squeezed a 9th track on, it would still be less than 22 minutes per side. The best thing about what I consider the weakest album '70-'81, Never Too Late, is that amongst all the poorly assembled collection of leftovers there is at least one of the two covers they needed to try and fashion an album (& with a track they could release as a single, too) that shows the old band could still play a bit of rock & roll: their quite decent cover of Chuck Berry's Carol. Btw, I don't get the comments about Coming & Going at all, it's one of the best tracks on the Just Supposin' album, imo & doesn't feel too long to me at all. If you're going to cut out over half of it then it may as well not be there. dennis, the intention was always to record two albums, me ol' china plate. There were no leftovers, as such. Alan wasn't keen but that was the intention from the beginning, for record company reasons mainly. Certain things happened that led to various songs being finished before others and hence why we had certain songs on Just Supposin' and then on Never Too Late. They just ran out of time in Dublin. This loss of tracking time was largely due to Rick burning his finger after a night of drink and other stuff, partying with Scott Gorham. Rick fell asleep in his room with a burning cigar in his fingers. He was lucky he woke up in time and Liz Gernon took him to hospital to have the burns dealt with and dressed. As Rick was out of action for about a week, the band and producer could only continue doing overdubs on songs that were already advanced tracking wise. The tracks that were recorded first became the tracks that were finished first and became Just Supposin', by default. Studio time ran out on them eventually and other acts were booked in the studio, so Quo had to leave. Bob Young went over to Dublin to record the harp on Coming and Going as an overdub. Back in the UK and What You're Proposing is mixed in Rossi's roof studio. Other tracks were mixed at the The Marquee studios. The tracks that were most advanced dub and mix wise etc were the ones that became JS. The solo of Rock n Roll had been recorded in Rossi's home studio. Carol, Something 'bout You Baby and AB Blues were recorded in what was then Rick's newly completed studio and games room. Riverside became something of a Rossi/Frost project and a last minute addition to the album. Rick definitely played a significant role in these albums, not just from the cigar incident point of view (!) but from being very involved in the sessions, something that changed at times later on, I believe. After the tracks for JS had been mastered, they went to work on the dubs for the tracks that would become NTL. |
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Post by mortified on Jun 26, 2020 8:00:12 GMT
Interesting. Never really given it much thought, although we probably all have at least one nagging irritation about an otherwise perfect album. Top album for me has always been Hello! and, classic as the song is, it always disappointed me (only very slightly mind) that Softer Ride was on it. I'd already wiped the grooves off it with the Paper Plane single! So when I bought the album, I technically only had 6 new tracks to listen to after the release of Caroline as a single. That's about the only negative thing I can say about the album. Which isn't a lot really, is it? Bottom of the heap will always be Back To Back. Certainly THE biggest disappointment. But it has Too Close To The Ground and No Contract on it as saviours. I know many see the latter song as a lame heavy metal attempt, but I like it. And the production on it seems different to the rest of the album. Which it probably isn't  There is even an absence of irritating synths on it. It's a truly guitar driven song during a plinky-plonky keyboard driven era. He pontificated and fretbuzzzzz , your post is all news to me! Extremely interesting and educational. Nice one  |
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Post by railroad007 on Jun 26, 2020 9:47:54 GMT
I've never like Fine Fine Fine on Quo. Would have preferred Lonely Night.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 26, 2020 15:24:25 GMT
Hello! is probably my favourite album and I honestly can't fault it. Can't fault OTL.
As for TW, I think the opening bars of IDMI are very enjoyable.
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Post by railroad007 on Jun 26, 2020 15:33:27 GMT
Hello! is probably my favourite album and I honestly can't fault it. Can't fault OTL. As for TW, I think the opening bars of IDMI are very enjoyable. TW? A masterpiece of hard rocking songs. |
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Post by dennis on Jun 26, 2020 16:44:53 GMT
Piledriver's my favourite but if I had to find fault with it then I would question the exclusion of Softer Ride from the album. I'm sure they could have squeezed a 9th track on, it would still be less than 22 minutes per side. The best thing about what I consider the weakest album '70-'81, Never Too Late, is that amongst all the poorly assembled collection of leftovers there is at least one of the two covers they needed to try and fashion an album (& with a track they could release as a single, too) that shows the old band could still play a bit of rock & roll: their quite decent cover of Chuck Berry's Carol. Btw, I don't get the comments about Coming & Going at all, it's one of the best tracks on the Just Supposin' album, imo & doesn't feel too long to me at all. If you're going to cut out over half of it then it may as well not be there. dennis, the intention was always to record two albums, me ol' china plate. There were no leftovers, as such. Alan wasn't keen but that was the intention from the beginning, for record company reasons mainly. Certain things happened that led to various songs being finished before others and hence why we had certain songs on Just Supposin' and then on Never Too Late. They just ran out of time in Dublin. This loss of tracking time was largely due to Rick burning his finger after a night of drink and other stuff, partying with Scott Gorham. Rick fell asleep in his room with a burning cigar in his fingers. He was lucky he woke up in time and Liz Gernon took him to hospital to have the burns dealt with and dressed. As Rick was out of action for about a week, the band and producer could only continue doing overdubs on songs that were already advanced tracking wise. The tracks that were recorded first became the tracks that were finished first and became Just Supposin', by default. Studio time ran out on them eventually and other acts were booked in the studio, so Quo had to leave. Bob Young went over to Dublin to record the harp on Coming and Going as an overdub. Back in the UK and What You're Proposing is mixed in Rossi's roof studio. Other tracks were mixed at the The Marquee studios. The tracks that were most advanced dub and mix wise etc were the ones that became JS. The solo of Rock n Roll had been recorded in Rossi's home studio. Carol, Something 'bout You Baby and AB Blues were recorded in what was then Rick's newly completed studio and games room. Riverside became something of a Rossi/Frost project and a last minute addition to the album. Rick definitely played a significant role in these albums, not just from the cigar incident point of view (!) but from being very involved in the sessions, something that changed at times later on, I believe. After the tracks for JS had been mastered, they went to work on the dubs for the tracks that would become NTL. Ta for the history lesson, although I'm not entirely new to the band's output. Perhaps my point would have been clearer if I'd inserted the phrase "... what sounds like ..." in front of the word leftovers. It sounds for all the world like the second album never really got properly finished & was largely left for Rossi to do with as he saw fit. Some of the songs I really liked on Never Too Late, but I was very disappointed with what they'd done with them. In fact the two albums sound so different, it's hard to imagine they both developed from the same sessions in Dublin. Maybe they should have just gone for a double album in the first place. |
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Post by matt on Jun 26, 2020 20:49:34 GMT
Go on I’ll ill give this a go buy some of it will be not picking for the sake of it.
Worst of the best:
Never been the biggest fan of Broken Man
I really dislike the guitar sound on Live 77
Production of hello isn’t as full a sound as the other classic era albums.
Best of the worst:
I really like Who gets the love and I know you’re leaving 😬
First side of Perfect Remedy is good
Obstruction day is a good b- side from a thin era of good songs.
And another surprising thing:
Never too late is probably my favourite quo album
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Post by Victor on Jun 26, 2020 21:05:12 GMT
Go on I’ll ill give this a go buy some of it will be not picking for the sake of it. Worst of the best: Never been the biggest fan of Broken Man I really dislike the guitar sound on Live 77 Production of hello isn’t as full a sound as the other classic era albums. Best of the worst: I really like Who gets the love and I know you’re leaving 😬 First side of Perfect Remedy is good Obstruction day is a good b- side from a thin era of good songs. And another surprising thing:
Never too late is probably my favourite quo album Not surprising to me, it is still my favorite Quo album |
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Post by railroad007 on Jun 27, 2020 9:20:47 GMT
Go on I’ll ill give this a go buy some of it will be not picking for the sake of it. Worst of the best: Never been the biggest fan of Broken Man I really dislike the guitar sound on Live 77 Production of hello isn’t as full a sound as the other classic era albums. Best of the worst: I really like Who gets the love and I know you’re leaving 😬 First side of Perfect Remedy is good Obstruction day is a good b- side from a thin era of good songs. And another surprising thing:
Never too late is probably my favourite quo album Not surprising to me, it is still my favorite Quo album Victor. I hold counselling sessions at The Piledriver clinic for this condition. |
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There is even an absence of irritating synths on it. It's a truly guitar driven song during a plinky-plonky keyboard driven era. 
