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Post by Detroit on Jun 2, 2020 19:24:20 GMT
Bought it, played it and binned it. Didn't buy it, so couldn't play it, so couldn't bin it.
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Post by frozenhero on Jun 2, 2020 21:34:43 GMT
When I got this album I was a bit disappointed with Dreamin’ the mix on the album isn’t nearly as good as that of the single I was used to. Again, like Calling, sounds like a pretty cheap production, certainly doesn’t appear like they used a top quality studio. I think they (or Pip) overdid the reverb at times, but they weren't the only ones to do it. Some records from that era have snares that sound like trash cans! Anyway, I kinda like the album, although it's rather inconsistent and the mind boggles considering how good some of the b-sides are in comparison with songs like Speechless. I suppose they didn't want Rick to get the lion's share of the vocals but...
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matt
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Post by matt on Jun 2, 2020 22:08:31 GMT
Good topic - I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s thoughts.
I bought the single as a 9 year old - one of my first. I absolutely loved it. Vaguely remember RH coming out too.
Probably got the album a few years later when I had some pocket money. It’s not one I listen to much, though coincidentally it has had a few spins during lock down.
Overall it seems bright, light and energetic - with a few darker moments from Parfitt.
As usual with this era, some songs have a really annoying keyboard chugga chugga rhythm underneath most noticeably on Dreamin.
I like the first side quite a lot - the guitar breaks on Save Me, in your eyes are pretty good, but there’s usually some weird keyboard flourish to undo any good work.
Side 2 is weaker but I really like End of the Line - particularly the moody, dense harmonies and sound of ricks guitar
Overdose is great till the outro which I think is horrid.
Overall it’s probably a 6/10. Not great. Not horrible.
The b sides on the deluxe edition are interesting. I really like Lonely. But all of parfitts are woeful IMO ( as are his songs in Recorded Delivery). It’s the sound of a man whose talent has temporarily disappeared into a line of cocaine. Rock and roll floorboards, keep me guessing? No thanks. I don’t think he wrote a classic ever again, and a decent song till One Man Band.
In fact between 1986 and say 1998, how many songs did he write that were included on albums. I can think of maybe 10....
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Post by gerh on Jun 2, 2020 23:01:48 GMT
No. Sorry, but just... No. Awful shite - one good song. That's all.
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Post by mortified on Jun 3, 2020 5:12:44 GMT
Overall it seems bright, light and energetic - with a few darker moments from Parfitt. That's very often the story with Quo albums. You could often rely on Rick to change the mood and the feel ( Shine On from Under The Influence is a good example). I liked that. Those darker numbers have often been my favourite tracks, even going way back.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jun 3, 2020 5:19:00 GMT
No. Sorry, but just... No. Awful shite - one good song. That's all.
You really think Invitation is the best song on the album, Gerh?
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Post by frozenhero on Jun 3, 2020 9:54:10 GMT
The b sides on the deluxe edition are interesting. I really like Lonely. But all of parfitts are woeful IMO ( as are his songs in Recorded Delivery). It’s the sound of a man whose talent has temporarily disappeared into a line of cocaine. Rock and roll floorboards, keep me guessing? No thanks. I don’t think he wrote a classic ever again, and a decent song till One Man Band. In fact between 1986 and say 1998, how many songs did he write that were included on albums. I can think of maybe 10.... Keep Me Guessing (which I like btw) is from the late 70s, as is Late Last Night. Rock 'n' Roll Floorboards wasn't written by him (althoug it sounds like it), but by Brian Alterman. (Thanks to Quoincidence - statusquo.boards.net/thread/12957/rock-roll-floorboards ) But I think Heartburn is just as good as End of the Line & Overdose, and how can you not like Lean Machine? Another song that really should have been an album track. Also, he co-wrote Ain't Complaining, The Power of Rock, Man Overboard and Doing It All for You, which are also quite listenable (more so than some of the stuff that Francis came up with in that era), again IMHO... I don't like One for the Money, though. Not sure what he was trying to achieve with that. Co-writes on LPs: Save Me [Edit, thanks to sqcollector for reminding me...] End of the Line Overdose Ain't Complaining One for the Money The Loving Game The Power of Rock Man Overboard One Man Band No Problems Good Sign Nothing Comes Easy (full band) [4500x - yeah, I know... ] Co-writes on b-sides: Lonely Keep Me Guessing Don't Give It Up (?) Heartburn Late Last Night Long Legged Girls Lean Machine Halloween The Reason for Goodbye (?) Doing It All for You Mysteries from the Ball Heavy Daze Tilting at the Mill (full band) Mortified (full band) Temporary Friend (full band)
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Post by sqcollector on Jun 3, 2020 11:44:15 GMT
You forgot about Save Me, frozenhero . But I can understand why ; ) Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I quite like Rick's songs from this era. I think they are very heavy and solid. Exceptions being One For The Money, which is typical 80's pop (I do like the more dramatic melody on the chorus, though) and Doing It All For You, which suffers from being very soft; if it had more of those crunchy guitars they used in the early 70's, could have worked better.
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2020 14:28:32 GMT
yesh Fair point on some of those co-writes. Ain’t complaining is a great little tune I think.
However, the Rick centric songs from 85-98, RTYD aside are poor IMO
Doing it all for you, don’t give it up, one for money, are woeful. Don’t Give it Up might actually be my least favourite quo song.
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Post by gav on Jun 3, 2020 15:19:24 GMT
Don’t Give it Up might actually be my least favourite quo song. This was a Rhino song written for his pre-Quo band, er, Rhino. Not sure if Rick made any contribution to it musically or not.
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Post by gerh on Jun 3, 2020 15:39:06 GMT
Bought it, played it and binned it. Didn't buy it, so couldn't play it, so couldn't bin it. You could always 'virtually' bin it - in a Zen kind of way, of course. I've tried that too. But nothing beats the satisfaction of actually binning it, to be fair. [Well, I say I 'binned it', I didn't - I sold it among a whole load of old 'never-to-be-played-again' LPs a few years ago and that paid for a lovely 2nd hand Taylor 214ce guitar. "Every cloud..." G
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Post by charles on Jun 4, 2020 7:04:52 GMT
Didn't buy it, so couldn't play it, so couldn't bin it. You could always 'virtually' bin it - in a Zen kind of way, of course. I've tried that too. But nothing beats the satisfaction of actually binning it, to be fair. [Well, I say I 'binned it', I didn't - I sold it among a whole load of old 'never-to-be-played-again' LPs a few years ago and that paid for a lovely 2nd hand Taylor 214ce guitar. "Every cloud..." G #binshiteSQ is going viral as we speak
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Post by gerh on Jun 4, 2020 16:10:25 GMT
You could always 'virtually' bin it - in a Zen kind of way, of course. I've tried that too. But nothing beats the satisfaction of actually binning it, to be fair. [Well, I say I 'binned it', I didn't - I sold it among a whole load of old 'never-to-be-played-again' LPs a few years ago and that paid for a lovely 2nd hand Taylor 214ce guitar. "Every cloud..." G #binshiteSQ is going viral as we speak Um... great [?] I don't really know what that really means charles [something to do with 'social' (ha ha ha!] media??] - I'm an agnostic about all that shite - this here and the occasional watzap are as deep as I need to go - the real world is fine for me [well... y'know what I mean!] G
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Jun 4, 2020 17:00:30 GMT
It’s not an album I feel a bit indifferent about.
The title track is a classic, even if the vocal minority hate it.
I always liked Rollin’ Home and Red Sky.
I’ve never understood why Lonely wasn’t on the album.
Rick and Francis are credited with a co-write so no issue regarding royalties .
I find it interesting that Invitation is on there when Francis and Bob weren’t talking.
A real mixed bag of an album.
It would be five years before Quo rediscovered how good they could sound in the studio with Rock Til You Drop
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Post by allyp on Jun 4, 2020 18:21:04 GMT
It is very much a product of the time. People go on about the synths being over used but most Rock acts had gone this way by the mid 80s. The metallicas and megadeath’s were still part of an underground movement but Quo were never part of that ilk going back anyway. The album was right for the time. Most of the material had to be hurried and released that is why most of the material originates from abandoned solo projects and re discovered tracks theyplayed around with in the late 70s a bit. I like the album showcasing a different side to the band . It was never going to be a classic but produced 4 hit singles and got Quo back into the public eye after the debacle of the split etc. Overdose is a real gem for me shame it wasn’t played live more. Some may criticise the band going for an outside writer like John David but he gave Quo many hits over the years.
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