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Post by Gaz on May 13, 2020 10:26:52 GMT
Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin,... it’s the norm now with rock bands, BUT we’re Quo the first to do this just as on cover for Piledriver? While I’m at it ... bugger Nirvana, I reckon Quo were ‘grungeing’ way a long time before them.
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Post by wolfman on May 13, 2020 11:32:16 GMT
Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin,... it’s the norm now with rock bands, BUT we’re Quo the first to do this just as on cover for Piledriver? While I’m at it ... bugger Nirvana, I reckon Quo were ‘grungeing’ way a long time before them. my mother said it was the shadows ?and blamed the Beatles for long hair..
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Post by railroad007 on May 13, 2020 12:05:54 GMT
The Shad's moved about doing the walk.I've been aware of rock and pop music since TOTP in the 60's and the OGWT and Quo were the first band I ever saw do it.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on May 13, 2020 12:33:29 GMT
As much as everyone wants Quo to be the first to do this, that or the other, they never were, but nor did they want to be. Everything they picked up they got off someone else, who got that off someone else, and they got that off someone else.
Although come to think of it, Rossi may well be the first rock guitarist to ever don white socks and dress like a grandfather.
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Post by wolfman on May 13, 2020 12:42:33 GMT
Whites socks very sock n roll.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on May 13, 2020 15:24:45 GMT
Accidentally the first
Not contrived, making it very cool indeed
Stylistically, Piledriver greatly influenced the NWOBHM. Francis probs very uncomfortable with that!
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Post by vivfromcov on May 13, 2020 19:25:41 GMT
Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin,... it’s the norm now with rock bands, BUT we’re Quo the first to do this just as on cover for Piledriver? While I’m at it ... bugger Nirvana, I reckon Quo were ‘grungeing’ way a long time before them. Ok, that’s a challenge! ‘Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin’ , so The Shadows don’t count as they didn’t have long hair! Who can find the earliest photo of a band doing exactly that?
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Post by wolfman on May 13, 2020 20:28:43 GMT
Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin,... it’s the norm now with rock bands, BUT we’re Quo the first to do this just as on cover for Piledriver? While I’m at it ... bugger Nirvana, I reckon Quo were ‘grungeing’ way a long time before them. Ok, that’s a challenge! ‘Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin’ , so The Shadows don’t count as they didn’t have long hair! Who can find the earliest photo of a band doing exactly that? some southern boogie band from the states..
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Post by vivfromcov on May 13, 2020 23:11:36 GMT
Ok, that’s a challenge! ‘Heads down long hair guitarists shoulder to shoulder rockin’ , so The Shadows don’t count as they didn’t have long hair! Who can find the earliest photo of a band doing exactly that? some southern boogie band from the states.. Possibly... I started looking earlier for live bands pictures like Canned Heat and Ten Years After but couldn’t immediately find anything that fits Gaz’s spec. As for Quo, maybe an image from the Beat Club sessions if there is a heads down rockin moment would be earlier than the Piledriver pic ( what year was that again kursaal75 ? )
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Post by wishing4oldquo on May 14, 2020 0:48:00 GMT
As much as everyone wants Quo to be the first to do this, that or the other, they never were, but nor did they want to be. Everything they picked up they got off someone else, who got that off someone else, and they got that off someone else. Although come to think of it, Rossi may well be the first rock guitarist to ever don white socks and dress like a grandfather. Really? As a young un in the 70s with a keen interest in music, clothes/dress code, tribal tendencies (genres) and the like, I can't identify with what you say. My recollection is that they were the band which had the 'wall of hair' over guitars as their trade mark, and were the first to do it - lots, if not all the big rock and pop acts of the day had a trademark or 'gimmick' (from serious album bands to lighter singles acts). As for you broadening the point, onto 'this, that and the other'...ok, they certainly didn't invent 12 bar-boogie-heavy-rock, but they sure as hell created a sound that was as distinctive as it was difficult to pigeon hole, and which deserves slightly more credit than just a collection of things nicked from others. There is not a musical act in the world which isn't at least influenced by something else, but some acts are far more original than others ..I wouldn't mark Quo down on scoring poorly on that front at all.. Oh, back to the hair, yeah, I think they were the first and, importantly, were the coolest/best at doing it!
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on May 14, 2020 2:16:26 GMT
As much as everyone wants Quo to be the first to do this, that or the other, they never were, but nor did they want to be. Everything they picked up they got off someone else, who got that off someone else, and they got that off someone else. Although come to think of it, Rossi may well be the first rock guitarist to ever don white socks and dress like a grandfather. Really? As a young un in the 70s with a keen interest in music, clothes/dress code, tribal tendencies (genres) and the like, I can't identify with what you say. My recollection is that they were the band which had the 'wall of hair' over guitars as their trade mark, and were the first to do it - lots, if not all the big rock and pop acts of the day had a trademark or 'gimmick' (from serious album bands to lighter singles acts). As for you broadening the point, onto 'this, that and the other'...ok, they certainly didn't invent 12 bar-boogie-heavy-rock, but they sure as hell created a sound that was as distinctive as it was difficult to pigeon hole, and which deserves slightly more credit than just a collection of things nicked from others. There is not a musical act in the world which isn't at least influenced by something else, but some acts are far more original than others ..I wouldn't mark Quo down on scoring poorly on that front at all.. Oh, back to the hair, yeah, I think they were the first and, importantly, were the coolest/best at doing it! I’m not quite sure if you’ve read into my post too much or not enough... I’m not sure how many on here had the chance to delve into the clubbing scene from 66-71/72ish, but even if they aren’t, there isn’t ever one band that sounds like that band wether they be the first or last. Quo were absolutely nowhere near the first band to be lashing their heads down and around, as a whole era of hippies were at it before them, as well as the blues rock bands of the clubbing scene as mentioned previously. Also you’ve essentially just wrote out one of my points out and wrote it back to me. Yes, everyone ever has been influenced by generations of other influence, which is basically the whole point to my post. I’m not making any sort of attack on Quo or anyone for that matter in particular, I just fail to see why it’s often all too easily misconstrued as ‘these fellas done this first, before these fellas done the same thing although they’re claiming they done it” blah blah blah. It doesn’t matter a shite who done what first. It’s when people stop doing it we’re in the shite.
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Post by Gaz on May 14, 2020 9:06:05 GMT
Maybe true but going back to ‘72 I still reckon Quo brought that ‘wall of hair’ heads down shoulder to shoulder boogie rock to the fore. Same goes with their grungey music/ t shirt n dirty jeans stage gear.
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Post by curiousgirl on May 14, 2020 9:29:17 GMT
No idea if Quo were the first but I have a memory from an interview with the band. What I remember is this. When they changed direction and went to the pubs and smaller venues, they were surprised when their audience sat on the floor as was the trend then. They weren't used to that. So the heads down, wall of hair was their way of coping with a different audience reaction. I think the result was that the audience then got up and started joining in.
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Post by vivfromcov on May 14, 2020 9:32:59 GMT
I don’t think anyone’s attacking anybody and yes it doesn’t really matter who did what first.... It’s just a bit of fun to speculate and make conversation. Obviously musicians have always been influenced over the years by preceding artists and musically Quo were no different. But going back to Gaz’s point, is he right about the visual aspects. Looking yesterday at photos and videos, I saw evidence of individuals starting the heads down rocking stance in the late 60’s but not the unison shoulder to shoulder rockin (‘formation dancing’ ) Maybe Quo did initiate that? I remember an interview where Rick said that the audience just started to put their heads down nodding in time with the music and so they just copied them. Getting into the groove seemed to have evolved to that at the time (cat lady’s trench coat man ) as people wanted to really get into the music and feel it. But I think Gaz is right and Quo elevated it to another level.
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Post by Gaz on May 14, 2020 9:46:34 GMT
I don’t think anyone’s attacking anybody and yes it doesn’t really matter who did what first.... It’s just a bit of fun to speculate and make conversation. Obviously musicians have always been influenced over the years by preceding artists and musically Quo were no different. But going back to Gaz’s point, is he right about the visual aspects. Looking yesterday at photos and videos, I saw evidence of individuals starting the heads down rocking stance in the late 60’s but not the unison shoulder to shoulder rockin (‘formation dancing’ ) Maybe Quo did initiate that? I remember an interview where Rick said that the audience just started to put their heads down nodding in time with the music and so they just copied them. Getting into the groove seemed to have evolved to that at the time (cat lady’s trench coat man ) as people wanted to really get into the music and feel it. But I think Gaz is right and Quo elevated it to another level. Ha.. you’ve got a good memory with cat lady’s trench coat man... plus her recurring dreams of spilling hot tea onto Francis’s crotch ...yeow 😂 Yes this thread as most is just some fun.
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