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Post by MrWaistcoat on Dec 5, 2017 16:33:51 GMT
The guy is human. Especially on the official SQMB, he really did get stacks of personal abuse, and some of it was awful. Probably from much less than 1% of the fans, but it was there and it got to him. Clearly it still gets to him. I don't blame him for that. But he seems to have totally lost all perspective - he's lashing out "at all the fans who want him dead" but in doing so managing to upset a far larger group of fans who've consistently defended him over the years.
It seems to me he's hurting because the fans 5000% preferred the FF. Everyone, including francis, have conceded that the fans made themselves crystal clear. Rhino has never had an audience reaction like that, and he never will - despite many more years in the band than Alan. I think that must be hard to take.
Social media can be very misleading. The strongest and loudest voices come to the fore. It may seem that CQ have thousands of fans rabidly defending the band whilst pouring scorn on the FF, and similar has always appeared to be there in reverse.
Most fans though either do or did have a foot in both camps, and don't have much to say. If Rhino had that perspective, he'd be more diplomatic I'm sure
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Post by wolfman on Dec 5, 2017 17:08:12 GMT
He is approachable. He carries gear. He can't sing. He has zero charisma. He likes to have a laugh. He swears a lot. He doesn't like to work (hates rehearsals). He likes to have a drink. The man is a f*cking roadie. To be fair, @marcotl 's voice isn't that bad. he swears a lot though.....
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Post by 4th Chord on Dec 5, 2017 17:15:16 GMT
The guy is human. Especially on the official SQMB, he really did get stacks of personal abuse, and some of it was awful. Probably from much less than 1% of the fans, but it was there and it got to him. Clearly it still gets to him. I don't blame him for that. But he seems to have totally lost all perspective - he's lashing out "at all the fans who want him dead" but in doing so managing to upset a far larger group of fans who've consistently defended him over the years. It seems to me he's hurting because the fans 5000% preferred the FF. Everyone, including francis, have conceded that the fans made themselves crystal clear. Rhino has never had an audience reaction like that, and he never will - despite many more years in the band than Alan. I think that must be hard to take. Social media can be very misleading. The strongest and loudest voices come to the fore. It may seem that CQ have thousands of fans rabidly defending the band whilst pouring scorn on the FF, and similar has always appeared to be there in reverse. Most fans though either do or did have a foot in both camps, and don't have much to say. If Rhino had that perspective, he'd be more diplomatic I'm sure There's certainly no-one on here 'wants him dead'. There were a few wankers on the old board would go for his looks, playing ability and anything else they could, but let's face it, he's Current Quo's bass player, a full band member (not sure if he was to start with, same as I assume Leon and Richie are today), and he's pretty down to earth. However, that interview lacked humility that's for sure.
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Post by whoaskedyou on Dec 5, 2017 17:22:29 GMT
Don't really get why he is coming out with this stuff now.. perhaps he is on a wind up..it must be hard when he saw the crowd going wild at Hammersmith..the pure emotion of it all..such a high which is why Rick, Alan and John wanted to do it again.
I actually play a fair bit of Quo after the FF so I don't knock some of the later output or the gigs over all the eras of Quo up until more recent years.
Deep down they continue but without Rick it is too diluted and the FF gigs opened up a can of worms for more modern Quo.
I think they know the death of Rick has signalled the beginning of the end if you pardon the pun..even if they talk of all this fresh new energy stuff.
I feel for him..maybe deep down he is itching to play more modern Quo stuff with just a few of the hits but he is not the leader..so frustrated all around after all those years...don't be too hard on him sounds like he may have lost the plot in this interview...and I am sure we have all enjoyed gigs with him in the band in the past.
The best thing that could happen to the latest line up would be to change the set..have a go at recording some new stuff and have the balls to ring the changes rather than worrying about past members who made the band..but he may not have enough input into that.
The UK Tour is just about over so perhaps he feels he can let off steam or create a bit of last minute interest..who knows.
Peace and love to all.
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Post by clonesydney on Dec 5, 2017 17:27:09 GMT
It should be remembered that Rhino was full of praise for the Hammersmith show back in 2013. It was "very very very good" in his words back then , and it was great to hear Backwater "done proper" .
There's 2 things that have emboldened Rhino to subsequently cut loose. One are the public pronouncements of Rossi and the other is the death of Rick and with it the certain knowledge that the FF are no more.
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Post by wolfman on Dec 5, 2017 17:32:22 GMT
frank Sinatra of rock?..
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 5, 2017 17:57:41 GMT
Don't really get why he is coming out with this stuff now.. perhaps he is on a wind up..it must be hard when he saw the crowd going wild at Hammersmith..the pure emotion of it all..such a high which is why Rick, Alan and John wanted to do it again. I actually play a fair bit of Quo after the FF so I don't knock some of the later output or the gigs over all the eras of Quo up until more recent years. Deep down they continue but without Rick it is too diluted and the FF gigs opened up a can of worms for more modern Quo. I think they know the death of Rick has signalled the beginning of the end if you pardon the pun..even if they talk of all this fresh new energy stuff. I feel for him..maybe deep down he is itching to play more modern Quo stuff with just a few of the hits but he is not the leader..so frustrated all around after all those years...don't be too hard on him sounds like he may have lost the plot in this interview...and I am sure we have all enjoyed gigs with him in the band in the past. The best thing that could happen to the latest line up would be to change the set..have a go at recording some new stuff and have the balls to ring the changes rather than worrying about past members who made the band..but he may not have enough input into that. The UK Tour is just about over so perhaps he feels he can let off steam or create a bit of last minute interest..who knows. Peace and love to all. Because if he talked only about his solo project no one, well a part from a handful of people would read the article. He is getting cheap heat hoping that will get people to read the second part of the interview about his band. I know journalists can lead the interviewee but he seems to have been happy enough to say his piece.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Dec 5, 2017 18:03:33 GMT
'Appalling mess' is in the eye of the beholder can I suggest...I was there too, I certainly didn't think 'appalling mess'. Compliment? Certainly in a passive/aggressive way. The band were shit but the crowd were well up for it? Bollocks. I'll take that mess over another 'tight' rendition of The Oriental any day. And to support this view from 4th Chord, as a fan who saw them in their younger days, this was my fear. That it would be an appalling mess. But to my relief, it wasn't. I would have said if I thought it was. Instead I got goosebumps, as I heard those very familiar tunes. I didn't go to 100s of gigs, I think only about 10 or less. But this was the sound I remembered and it was still there. It was exciting, thrilling. The band made me feel that. I didn't cheer simply because of seeing them again. It was real. For me at least. And when I first heard a live gig of the CQ, via the Radio 2 concert in 2011, to promote QPQ, I didn't get goosebumps. And I thought maybe I'd gone off Quo. It wasn't there. That to me speaks volumes about what I enjoyed about their sound. Amen!
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Post by Detroit on Dec 5, 2017 18:09:58 GMT
To say the Frantic 4 at Hammersmith was a "fucking appalling mess" is actually downright dishonest. He didn't actually say that - he said 'MUSICALLY it was an appalling mess', and it was. I was there and it was all over the place. He also said the atmosphere and reaction of the crowd was fantastic - last time I checked that's a compliment.
A comment like that should be from half-decent musicians.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Dec 5, 2017 18:10:26 GMT
And.... The FF are/were all over the place even in their heydays... The magic of +L+I+V+E+ shows that.. and that's what it was all about. Not a klikktrakk-into-perfection tightness, but a swagger impossible to imitate.... As I said... I have liked that bass man a lot but he sure fired some rounds in the foot this time....
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 5, 2017 18:16:43 GMT
The guy is human. Especially on the official SQMB, he really did get stacks of personal abuse, and some of it was awful. Probably from much less than 1% of the fans, but it was there and it got to him. Clearly it still gets to him. I don't blame him for that. But he seems to have totally lost all perspective - he's lashing out "at all the fans who want him dead" but in doing so managing to upset a far larger group of fans who've consistently defended him over the years. It seems to me he's hurting because the fans 5000% preferred the FF. Everyone, including francis, have conceded that the fans made themselves crystal clear. Rhino has never had an audience reaction like that, and he never will - despite many more years in the band than Alan. I think that must be hard to take. Social media can be very misleading. The strongest and loudest voices come to the fore. It may seem that CQ have thousands of fans rabidly defending the band whilst pouring scorn on the FF, and similar has always appeared to be there in reverse. Most fans though either do or did have a foot in both camps, and don't have much to say. If Rhino had that perspective, he'd be more diplomatic I'm sure Of course, he claimed to not read tha boards. Which again has been shown to be not the case. I don’t think any serious minded person would say what he claims about ‘wanting him dead’. It it must be difficult knowing for most people he will always be second best. Whatever his qualities as a song writer, singer and lyricist, he seems u likely to write anything to match Alan’s best work. But it’s the hand he’s been dealt. Despite crowds in the UK collapsing to there worst level since who knows when. There will still be thousands enjoying their night out. There to cheer Rhino and the rest of the band. Most people who still attend probably don’t care who is in the band as long as Francis is there. Some will miss Rick. I try to have perspective when I go to see The Stranglers Im not really bothered who’s in the band, same with many bands whose line ups have changed. Slayer being a case in point, still love them despite the drummer being forced out and guitarist passing away.I pay for a night out. Perhaps and I know it’s different but he should look to Metallica and the replacements for Cliff. They have been respectful to Cliffs legacy but got on with the job. And I guess that’s the difference Edwards has never been accepted at all by a vocal part of the fan base. He knows this. It must bother him. Unlike say Ronnie Wood, he has nothing else to point to, to say this is my work away from the band I have worked for years and years.
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Post by Mac on Dec 5, 2017 20:34:15 GMT
"What we’re doing now is gigs [and not tours]." What does that even mean? When is a tour not a tour?? That threw me as well......... so did I go to the last gig or the last gig of the tour in Liverpool last year.......
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Post by Detroit on Dec 5, 2017 21:38:54 GMT
"I also like Spud, which is quite bizarre as not too many people do.”
Did I read that correctly?
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Post by lazypokerblues on Dec 5, 2017 21:43:35 GMT
"What we’re doing now is gigs [and not tours]." What does that even mean? When is a tour not a tour?? That threw me as well......... so did I go to the last gig or the last gig of the tour in Liverpool last year....... Don't worry, Mac, it's very simple: last year was the Last Night of the Electrics Tour. You went to the last gig of the 2016 LNOTE Tour. But this year, up to Australia, they were still on tour, doing the LNOTE 2017 Tour. But now they're just doing gigs. Plugged In gigs. And Aquostic gigs. But it's not a tour. That's what Rhino says.
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Post by wolfman on Dec 5, 2017 21:49:19 GMT
That threw me as well......... so did I go to the last gig or the last gig of the tour in Liverpool last year....... Don't worry, Mac, it's very simple: last year was the Last Night of the Electrics Tour. You went to the last gig of the 2016 LNOTE Tour. But this year, up to Australia, they were still on tour, doing the LNOTE 2017 Tour. But now they're just doing gigs. Plugged In gigs. And Aquostic gigs. But it's not a tour. That's what Rhino says. who is rhino?
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