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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 9, 2019 22:08:14 GMT
On this video I got a comment saying it was being played way, way too fast... but, it only runs 3 bpm faster than Quo's performance at the Glasgow Apollo in '76.
1976 - 137bpm (Glasgow Apollo Recording)
1994 - 135bpm (Royal Albert Hall Recording)
2003 - 140bpm (Neza Mexico Recording)
Fair enough, there have been times when post '86 Quo have played at lightning speeds...
Caroline @ Sutton Park, 1992 being one of them, which runs at 177bpm - whereas the Glasgow Apollo version comes in at 163bpm
What do you think of the tempo the Matt Letley lineup played at?
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Post by viza on Sept 10, 2019 5:49:37 GMT
Yes maybe a little bit to fast. But to be fair, Parfitt is opening both Caroline and Forty-Five Hundred Times. It would not sound great if the drummer suddenly came in and lower the tempo.
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 10, 2019 6:08:20 GMT
On this video I got a comment saying it was being played way, way too fast... but, it only runs 3 bpm faster than Quo's performance at the Glasgow Apollo in '76. 1976 - 137bpm (Glasgow Apollo Recording) 1994 - 135bpm (Royal Albert Hall Recording) 2003 - 140bpm (Neza Mexico Recording) Fair enough, there have been times when post '86 Quo have played at lightning speeds... Caroline @ Sutton Park, 1992 being one of them, which runs at 177bpm - whereas the Glasgow Apollo version comes in at 163bpm What do you think of the tempo the Matt Letley lineup played at? I think Matt improved the band more than any drummer. Better than any drummer has had since John. Like many great drummers he nailed the beat no more no less. |
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 10, 2019 14:50:46 GMT
Yes maybe a little bit to fast. But to be fair, Parfitt is opening both Caroline and Forty-Five Hundred Times. It would not sound great if the drummer suddenly came in and lower the tempo. That's what I say all the time when Jeff gets slated for the speed of the band whilst he was with them  |
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 10, 2019 20:30:19 GMT
Yes maybe a little bit to fast. But to be fair, Parfitt is opening both Caroline and Forty-Five Hundred Times. It would not sound great if the drummer suddenly came in and lower the tempo. That's what I say all the time when Jeff gets slated for the speed of the band whilst he was with them I agree. Personally I think it was Francis who wanted them to play faster in the late 80s after he watched the Milton Keynes gig and hated it. I have always said that the Live! album is really fast, I much prefer the tempo of the reunion gigs (except Down Down which I prefer faster). |
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Post by azza200 on Sept 10, 2019 21:14:29 GMT
Paper Plane on the TOTP2 performance is played fast as well
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 10, 2019 22:00:43 GMT
Paper Plane on the TOTP2 performance is played fast as well Is that with Matt drumming? |
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 10, 2019 22:07:04 GMT
Paper Plane on the TOTP2 performance is played fast as well Is that with Matt drumming? yeah, very early days of him joining however. May 2000 that was recorded... then again, the Caroline performance with Matt was also fast and that was recorded in September 2000 |
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 10, 2019 22:11:22 GMT
Is that with Matt drumming? yeah, very early days of him joining however. May 2000 that was recorded... then again, the Caroline performance with Matt was also fast and that was recorded in September 2000 Definitely Rossi, not the drummer imo. |
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 11, 2019 13:39:28 GMT
It's also not only down to actual speed, but also the way a drummer plays. You know "in front of the beat" and "behind the beat". Some of Jeff's playing actually isn't that fast when you analyze it but because of the way he played it sounds faster than it is. I don't think this was an issue with John, who was more laid back even in the 70s. Not sure where Matt fits into that...
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Post by justsupposin on Sept 11, 2019 16:33:07 GMT
The best quo I've heard was in 1984 they played slower and sounded so much heavier !!!
Roll Over Lay Down was so heavy!!
Pete Kircher was a perfect drummer for Quo
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 17, 2019 22:10:53 GMT
I just find Pete's style somewhat clunky and uninspired. He didn't really drive the music along in the way it deserved IMO.
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 17, 2019 23:59:02 GMT
I just find Pete's style somewhat clunky and uninspired. He didn't really drive the music along in the way it deserved IMO. I agree with this. Everytime I listen to a song where he plays (either live or studio), I always feel like he was there just because the drums were needed. He didn't add anything besides the basic beat. He couldn't go with the flow of the song (no exciting fills, motifs, etc.); a bit boring. Not to mention his cymbals sounded terrible, just like his snare, most of the time (just my opinion). Sure, mixing and production play a role here, but it also comes down to the drummer, I'd say. |
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Post by markquo on Sept 18, 2019 6:28:19 GMT
I just find Pete's style somewhat clunky and uninspired. He didn't really drive the music along in the way it deserved IMO. I agree with this. Everytime I listen to a song where he plays (either live or studio), I always feel like he was there just because the drums were needed. He didn't add anything besides the basic beat. He couldn't go with the flow of the song (no exciting fills, motifs, etc.); a bit boring. Not to mention his cymbals sounded terrible, just like his snare, most of the time (just my opinion). Sure, mixing and production play a role here, but it also comes down to the drummer, I'd say. Pete was always my favourite Quo drummer,the band never sounded as heavy live. Great drummer,came in and did the job asked of him no nonsense just got on with it. When you say no exciting fills etc not sure what you are expecting.This is Quo remember.Pete played for the song,live versions of tracks like Backwater show how he nailed it. Such a shame he was dumped the way he was Cheers |
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Post by Victor on Sept 18, 2019 10:21:04 GMT
I agree with this. Everytime I listen to a song where he plays (either live or studio), I always feel like he was there just because the drums were needed. He didn't add anything besides the basic beat. He couldn't go with the flow of the song (no exciting fills, motifs, etc.); a bit boring. Not to mention his cymbals sounded terrible, just like his snare, most of the time (just my opinion). Sure, mixing and production play a role here, but it also comes down to the drummer, I'd say. Pete was always my favourite Quo drummer,the band never sounded as heavy live. Great drummer,came in and did the job asked of him no nonsense just got on with it. When you say no exciting fills etc not sure what you are expecting.This is Quo remember.Pete played for the song,live versions of tracks like Backwater show how he nailed it. Such a shame he was dumped the way he was Cheers Although John Coghlan will always be my favorite, Pete was for me without a doubt the best one after that, especially live he was damn good ! |
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