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Post by Victor on Sept 12, 2019 18:43:30 GMT
Interesting how some people don't like the album because it reminds them of 1982 or even Thirsty Work... I can understand that from that point of view and I will be the last one to say that it is anywhere near as good as the glory time .... but: I suppose I look at it from a different angle and that is why I do enjoy the album... The fact was that Quo had been sinking down from me more then ever for quite a few years already. And with Rick passing away I didn't believe it would become anywhere near some better albums for me like 1982, RTYD, UTI and QPQ... and yes, I do agree, there seems to be uite a lot of 1982 ijn it... It could have fit right in between NTL and 1982. And as a fan especially of the older work, that is mre then I had dare to hope for beforehand. I hear this much rather then anything like BTB, AC, PR, TW, the cover shyte and ESPECIALLY BQ AQ and if they remind that much of 1982 then they are not doing bad at all at this age and without Rick.
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 12, 2019 18:47:58 GMT
I like 1982!
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 12, 2019 19:13:01 GMT
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Post by piledriver62 on Sept 12, 2019 19:28:21 GMT
Not sure if im looking at the wrong album charts, but no sign of it in the top 200.
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 12, 2019 19:30:32 GMT
Not sure if im looking at the wrong album charts, but no sign of it in the top 200. Chart will be tomorrow I think but comments are based on the midweek chart. Which is a good guide give or take a position or two.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Sept 12, 2019 19:35:46 GMT
Not sure if im looking at the wrong album charts, but no sign of it in the top 200. Number 2 midweek, so unless it's dropped 199 places you are on the wrong chart.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Sept 12, 2019 19:42:07 GMT
Probably out on a limb, but I'm not especially hearing 1982 in terms of Backbone. With more listens, it has a character of its own. Hints of the better elements of Thirsty Work, RTYD and QPQ maybe, but 1982?
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Post by curiousgirl on Sept 12, 2019 21:12:02 GMT
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Post by curiousgirl on Sept 12, 2019 21:14:38 GMT
Probably out on a limb, but I'm not especially hearing 1982 in terms of Backbone. With more listens, it has a character of its own. Hints of the better elements of Thirsty Work, RTYD and QPQ maybe, but 1982? I don't know the albums post 84 until Heavy Traffic. Only one track reminds me of 1982 which is I see you're in some trouble. The track I'm thinking of from that album is Jealousy.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Sept 12, 2019 22:32:51 GMT
Interesting how some people don't like the album because it reminds them of 1982 or even Thirsty Work... I can understand that from that point of view and I will be the last one to say that it is anywhere near as good as the glory time .... but: I suppose I look at it from a different angle and that is why I do enjoy the album... The fact was that Quo had been sinking down from me more then ever for quite a few years already. And with Rick passing away I didn't believe it would become anywhere near some better albums for me like 1982, RTYD, UTI and QPQ... and yes, I do agree, there seems to be uite a lot of 1982 ijn it... It could have fit right in between NTL and 1982. And as a fan especially of the older work, that is mre then I had dare to hope for beforehand. I hear this much rather then anything like BTB, AC, PR, TW, the cover shyte and ESPECIALLY BQ AQ and if they remind that much of 1982 then they are not doing bad at all at this age and without Rick. Totally agree. And yes while it slots in soundwise between NTL and 1982, fans would have panned it if it had come out then. And that's despite the fact this is better than those two albums So yes it's fair to say fans have far lower expectations now. Most of us that have remained interested this last 35 years (!) are probably easily pleased, and I accept that. Many of us have felt that we've lived off scraps. (I know there are hard-core fans who love all Quo output but I think they are small in number) But I'm so pleased they've made this album, it's brought me a lot of enjoyment Best I can hope for is that my opinion holds and that I'll always enjoy it. Even running out of time is growing on me!
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Sept 12, 2019 22:57:57 GMT
Interesting how some people don't like the album because it reminds them of 1982 or even Thirsty Work... I can understand that from that point of view and I will be the last one to say that it is anywhere near as good as the glory time .... but: I suppose I look at it from a different angle and that is why I do enjoy the album... The fact was that Quo had been sinking down from me more then ever for quite a few years already. And with Rick passing away I didn't believe it would become anywhere near some better albums for me like 1982, RTYD, UTI and QPQ... and yes, I do agree, there seems to be uite a lot of 1982 ijn it... It could have fit right in between NTL and 1982. And as a fan especially of the older work, that is mre then I had dare to hope for beforehand. I hear this much rather then anything like BTB, AC, PR, TW, the cover shyte and ESPECIALLY BQ AQ and if they remind that much of 1982 then they are not doing bad at all at this age and without Rick. Totally agree. And yes while it slots in soundwise between NTL and 1982, fans would have panned it if it had come out then. And that's despite the fact this is better than those two albums So yes it's fair to say fans have far lower expectations now. Most of us that have remained interested this last 35 years (!) are probably easily pleased, and I accept that. Many of us have felt that we've lived off scraps. (I know there are hard-core fans who love all Quo output but I think they are small in number) But I'm so pleased they've made this album, it's brought me a lot of enjoyment Best I can hope for is that my opinion holds and that I'll always enjoy it. Even running out of time is growing on me! I think is hard to say for sure how an album like this would have been received back in the mists of time. Different band, different fan base, different expectations, different marketing, a broader church today than the early 80s (uncompromising/fanatical?!). I love the idea that we hear different things as well, as makes for interesting conversation. Confirms what music should be about and completely personal experience for the listener or artist! Backbone's nothing like NTL or 1982 to me in style or sound, beyond RTYD, TW annd QPQ it's even closer to 'In search of the diminished chord' than NTL! Though that helps explain why Quo have such wide appeal because you can't label Quo in a sense, or completely define them, as many peeps have tried to do over the years... as Bob Young once lamented.." S.Quo Labelled? Hey Mable, no label...
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Post by Victor on Sept 13, 2019 6:31:29 GMT
fretbuzzzzz MrWaistcoat and curiousgirl interesting points and interesting how we all hear different things indeed. Take "I see you're in some trouble" for example...for me it doesn't remind of Jealousy but much more of "Doesn't matter" actually, especially going from the major chords to the minor ones in the chorus, Doesn't matter did that too. Rossiswaistcoat, oh I admit that I am indeed more easily pleased with things nowadays then I used to be in the days back then... but for me it would be unrealistic to expect them to be able to make something that would be of the same quality as the glory time, and yes I am happy if it sounds like 1982, UTI, QPQ. If it has shades of NTL which it does for me I will be even more happy. As far as Running out of time goes, I like that song more and more as well. I like the harmonies in the song which sound a lot less irritating then some of the high pitched background vocals back then ! some of the background vocals lke on I wanna run away with you are not ideal still but at least they are only there short moments and not going on and on like the high pitched BG vocals back then. Fretbuzzzzz interesting indeed how we hear different things style wise. I must say that I don't hear anything at all from either TW or 4th chord in it...maybe Waiting for a woman reminds a bit of Pennsylvania Blues but that's it for me... I do hear things that remind me of QPQ and UTI and here and there TPAOY... but it reminds me most of 1982 with shades of NTL here and there.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Sept 13, 2019 7:29:16 GMT
Falling off the world reminds me of TW's point of no return, albeit better.So far I think its the albums weakest song, but of course it's got a great mid section bolted on. It also has a melody that sticks in your head. Really sounds like Francis wrote it. This is why I didn't listen to Francis solo album, I'd be left with loads of songs I don't like stuck in my head! I only managed 5 seconds of crazy crazy
Imagine if there had been a message board back in the 80's....carnage!! I don't they made a single album that pleased the majority of its fans. Amazing really that they survived that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 7:38:24 GMT
Imagine if there had been a message board back in the 80's....carnage!! I don't they made a single album that pleased the majority of its fans. Amazing really that they survived that A mixture of the loyalty of the old hard-core fans and the power of the Ordinary Joes who go to gigs to hear the hits. It's just sad that Francis has always been so unwilling to acknowledge the importance of the fans. For any musician it's the fans who give you a career and if you're lucky maintain it.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Sept 13, 2019 9:28:10 GMT
Good points Victor and rossiswaistcoat.
As you say it's about enjoying the moment now with the new album.
Put all those aforementioned albums in a blender, as such, and inevitably something like Backbone will come out. Though, as I think we are agreed on, hopefully Backbone will be appreciated on its own merits and stand the test of time rather than compared to other albums in the long term.
Talking of comparisons...had been watching the Rossi at St Lukes blu ray dvd late last night. Just a spur of the moment thing as I wanted to check something that is in the documentary on the DVD. Ended up staying up way too late in the end and watched the whole damn gig as well! Then started drawing comparisons with some tracks on One Step with Backbone!
Some fans are not keen on the backing vocals on Backbone though personally I like the way they have been recorded and helps to give the album a flavour of its own.
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