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Post by azza200 on Jul 5, 2019 22:03:45 GMT
That also applies to Rain IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 23:38:19 GMT
To be honest, I haven’t seen the previously mentioned Berlin boot so can’t really comment on Backwater but agree maybe Rhino should leave that one alone... Have to be honest from watching that, im not a Rossi knocker generally but he is now an embarrassing performer no longer suited to the music. He should go and have fun in the country scene and enjoy what is left of life. Hopefully he will live until 90 doing so singing Just To Satisfy You and Delaney's Donkey. But that would be the end of Status Quo. In which case, would any of the current band join JCQ?
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Jul 6, 2019 6:25:09 GMT
Thanks for the input, care to elaborate? I'd like to elaborate, go listen to LL , close your eyes and listen, it could be any tribute band on youtube. Stop kidding your self that its STATUS QUO . Yes Rossi is on stage but that's it ! Your kidding yourself it's not, I am not saying they are the FF, I am saying they are still legally and officially Status Quo. Albeit with only one founding member, but also two that have been there over 33 Years and lets face it, the current bass player is by far the longest serving. People on here dismiss most everything they do, look at Musiktrue's reply, one word with no constructive reasons. I know they shouldn't be doing Backwater (imo) it should be left alone in the archives, but I personally think the band are playing well at the moment and when we talk about vocals, well lets face it, it has never been a band all about the vocals has it?
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Jul 6, 2019 6:40:10 GMT
Thanks for the input, care to elaborate? I'll try. Rhino doesn't look or sound comfortable singing Backwater. It comes across half-arsed because he's unable to commit to it 100% because it's not remotely like his natural vocal style, he is unable to SING the song as it was intended to be sung - i mean, he puts lots of little inflections and bends where the notes need to be held, and that weakens what's supposed to be a robust, beefy rock vocal. He sings it too nice! All of this, and perhaps most importantly, he knows it, so it becomes a very self-conscious performance. All IMO. I could be wrong. It's not a track i believe they should be doing live,they tried it at gigs in the noughties with a Rick vocal, and it wasn't the same as with AL, but other than a difference of singer it was sound.
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Post by musiktruhe on Jul 6, 2019 9:44:20 GMT
Rick was not Alan but a singer, Rhino is not Alan and not a singer at all.
The actual lineup are all good musicians but they all don’t feel the music anymore or never have felt.
I have heard some tribute bands maybe technically limited but with much more feeling for this kind of music.
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Post by viza on Jul 6, 2019 10:39:43 GMT
Have to be honest from watching that, im not a Rossi knocker generally but he is now an embarrassing performer no longer suited to the music. He should go and have fun in the country scene and enjoy what is left of life. Hopefully he will live until 90 doing so singing Just To Satisfy You and Delaney's Donkey. But that would be the end of Status Quo. In which case, would any of the current band join JCQ? That's a very interesting question but to be honest I doubt it and I'm not sure if anyone in FRQ is suitable for JCQ. If it's someone it's probably Andy but as I said I doubt it.
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Post by viza on Jul 6, 2019 10:55:32 GMT
To be honest, I haven’t seen the previously mentioned Berlin boot so can’t really comment on Backwater but agree maybe Rhino should leave that one alone... Despite my comment that no one in FRQ fits in JCQ I must say that this sounds better than I expected. I Did only hang on for a couple of minutes and my judgment is based on Caroline and the end of Little Lady. Ritchie did an OK vocal performance on the later. Maybe Rossi is the weakest link in this band as he tend to mess with both lyrics and his guitar playing.
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Post by musiktruhe on Jul 6, 2019 11:15:45 GMT
When I hear his bendings at the beginning of caroline at the nimes gig everything is lost.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 6, 2019 11:49:02 GMT
Have to be honest from watching that, im not a Rossi knocker generally but he is now an embarrassing performer no longer suited to the music. He should go and have fun in the country scene and enjoy what is left of life. Hopefully he will live until 90 doing so singing Just To Satisfy You and Delaney's Donkey. But that would be the end of Status Quo. In which case, would any of the current band join JCQ?
Trib bands are there to play the music for fun, so I suppose any of them might if John had a space. Probably not Leon, for the obvious reason ...
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 6, 2019 12:38:41 GMT
Despite my comment that no one in FRQ fits in JCQ I must say that this sounds better than I expected. I Did only hang on for a couple of minutes and my judgment is based on Caroline and the end of Little Lady. Ritchie did an OK vocal performance on the later. Maybe Rossi is the weakest link in this band as he tend to mess with both lyrics and his guitar playing.
That's definitely a point of view ... Francis still has his range and his playing is really good at times and at other times awful ... and his still slurring up to a point and it sounds as if he's running out of breath. (Which doesn't really matter as the audience just carries on.) But it really does show up what a good singer Rick was, even when his voice was deteriorating. They've never brought in anyone as a singer, only as a guitarist. I think it was a bit of luck that Richie could sing. (Or maybe they knew that.)
Army is a real mess on this, it sounds like he's getting tired.
They now sound like a mid-line band that has some good material. Rather the way they were about the time of Dog. Only older.
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Post by azza200 on Jul 6, 2019 19:08:23 GMT
Despite my comment that no one in FRQ fits in JCQ I must say that this sounds better than I expected. I Did only hang on for a couple of minutes and my judgment is based on Caroline and the end of Little Lady. Ritchie did an OK vocal performance on the later. Maybe Rossi is the weakest link in this band as he tend to mess with both lyrics and his guitar playing.
That's definitely a point of view ... Francis still has his range and his playing is really good at times and at other times awful ... and his still slurring up to a point and it sounds as if he's running out of breath. (Which doesn't really matter as the audience just carries on.) But it really does show up what a good singer Rick was, even when his voice was deteriorating. They've never brought in anyone as a singer, only as a guitarist. I think it was a bit of luck that Richie could sing. (Or maybe they knew that.)
Army is a real mess on this, it sounds like he's getting tired.
They now sound like a mid-line band that has some good material. Rather the way they were about the time of Dog. Only older.
Rhinos vocals on this as are appalling, Rossi is no better
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Post by Xland on Jul 6, 2019 21:11:57 GMT
I think they are doing ok at the mo.
On Rhino singing, never had an issue with it. Is he brilliant? no, but on the right track he's fine, and that's the point here, the track needs to be right.
I agree Backwater seems to be a little bit of a strain, but think this version of Rain sounds fine with Rhino.
I have no issue with the band playing any track they like, they have the rights to the name etc. I think they just need to play around with it a little bit. As much as I like Backwater, why not replace it with Bad News, (it's Rhino's Backwater), I always liked it, it's a bouncy heavy rocker and thought it would be good live, plus suits Rhino's voice better than Backwater does.
I think Don't Think It Matters would suit Rhino better than Backwater for example.
Yes give Richie a couple more tunes to sing, even if you have to extend set by same amount. Would be nice for them to try something a bit out of the box for Rossi/Quo, maybe sample tracks now that they haven't done live before, something like Your Smiling Face for example, really stretch out that bluesy lead break at the end or back to the likes of One Man Band.
Riverside is a favourite of my dad's and has the "energy" that Rossi talks about the new boys bringing to the band, so don't play it safe, why not give these a go, as well as many more, we could on and on, like we do anyway!!!
Would be nice to see them have a go at least.
I agree about Bye Bye Johnny, never understood doing a half baked version, just play the full tune or end with another full Quo track.
Also play the full Mystery Song single version, don't understand the new live version with no lead break, it's just odd, you get nearly, but then no. Shame.
I'm looking forward to the new album and still think they can get better live. Still enjoying the vibe at the mo.
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Post by Xland on Jul 6, 2019 21:19:40 GMT
Just going back to Riverside, is it me or would this be almost the perfect track in the Quo catalogue for how Leon plays?
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Post by gav on Jul 6, 2019 21:22:36 GMT
That's definitely a point of view ... Francis still has his range and his playing is really good at times and at other times awful ... and his still slurring up to a point and it sounds as if he's running out of breath. (Which doesn't really matter as the audience just carries on.) But it really does show up what a good singer Rick was, even when his voice was deteriorating. They've never brought in anyone as a singer, only as a guitarist. I think it was a bit of luck that Richie could sing. (Or maybe they knew that.)
Army is a real mess on this, it sounds like he's getting tired.
They now sound like a mid-line band that has some good material. Rather the way they were about the time of Dog. Only older.
Rhinos vocals on this as are appalling, Rossi is no better Maybe despite all the projected fun and daftness, there is a bit more of a serious side, a hierarchy within the band? Or something unspoken even? Maybe it really is a case of Rhino was there first, so takes the lion's share of Rick's vocals.
Richie should definitely be singing Rick's part on SBYBIL. It could be something much less sinister like, let's not give him too much work initially, let him ease in more gently.
Or......it all balances out quite nicely to them. Richie does LL and BFM, Rhino does Rain and Backwater.
I can genuinely see a band featuring Rhino, Richie, and Leon one day when Quo is finished. I can't see Richie not wanting to keep the flag flying, because he's always been a fan.
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Post by azza200 on Jul 6, 2019 21:29:24 GMT
That's a good point actually gav when you think of it that way, it kinda makes sense Rhino singing Ricks vocals on a number track's
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