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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 19, 2018 10:17:51 GMT
Just wondering if anyone prefers RTYD to this?
Like others I declared RTYD was "best album since NTL". Then said the same about HT.
With the passing of time, NTL has held up well. IMO it blows RTYD away
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Post by Victor on Aug 19, 2018 13:09:35 GMT
Just wondering if anyone prefers RTYD to this? Like others I declared RTYD was "best album since NTL". Then said the same about HT. With the passing of time, NTL has held up well. IMO it blows RTYD away Yep, that's my opinion as well
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Post by charles on Aug 20, 2018 6:27:57 GMT
Just wondering if anyone prefers RTYD to this? Like others I declared RTYD was "best album since NTL". Then said the same about HT. With the passing of time, NTL has held up well. IMO it blows RTYD away Of course it does.
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Post by Victor on Aug 20, 2018 7:48:50 GMT
For me NTL blows away just about every album that came after. The only positive exceptions for me are UTI and QPQ, and they don't catch the level of NTL either of course, but compared to the rest of the albums, those two are good albums for me. But NTL was without a doubt the last classic Quo album for me. And what a good one it was too (for me anyway), as said before I would have loved to see how it would have developed firther had they continued in that style.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 20, 2018 15:29:53 GMT
For me NTL blows away just about every album that came after. The only positive exceptions for me are UTI and QPQ, and they don't catch the level of NTL either of course, but compared to the rest of the albums, those two are good albums for me. But NTL was without a doubt the last classic Quo album for me. And what a good one it was too (for me anyway), as said before I would have loved to see how it would have developed firther had they continued in that style. Very much so. Strange that all the diversity went out of the band. Started with WYW, and continued. Francis probably thought they were very unbalanced albums in the same way he thinks QPQ is "very AC/DC". Deliberate or not? I suspect the band were trying to appease the hardcore who'd written hundreds of letters complaining about the rockin and heat albums. There's never been much complaint about the down tempo side of old Quo, a point that Quo seemed to forget
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Post by Victor on Aug 20, 2018 16:38:49 GMT
For me NTL blows away just about every album that came after. The only positive exceptions for me are UTI and QPQ, and they don't catch the level of NTL either of course, but compared to the rest of the albums, those two are good albums for me. But NTL was without a doubt the last classic Quo album for me. And what a good one it was too (for me anyway), as said before I would have loved to see how it would have developed firther had they continued in that style. Very much so. Strange that all the diversity went out of the band. Started with WYW, and continued. Francis probably thought they were very unbalanced albums in the same way he thinks QPQ is "very AC/DC". Deliberate or not? I suspect the band were trying to appease the hardcore who'd written hundreds of letters complaining about the rockin and heat albums. There's never been much complaint about the down tempo side of old Quo, a point that Quo seemed to forget Hmmmm...some interesting points there....big question is also of course that, even if they would have developed further in that direction, the band would most likely still have broken up anyway sadly enough...cos I honestly believe that, given they could have grown back together again, it could have developed into something wonderful.
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Post by blagult on Aug 20, 2018 19:07:00 GMT
Fantastic album. I think compared to the JS album NTL has much stronger songwriting and melody. Hence I think it hasn’t dated as much as JS. Also brought something different and fresh at the time. Then 1982 just brought everything crashing down !
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gerh
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Post by gerh on Aug 20, 2018 19:21:24 GMT
Fantastic album. I think compared to the JS album NTL has much stronger songwriting and melody. Hence I think it hasn’t dated as much as JS. Also brought something different and fresh at the time. Then 1982 just brought everything crashing down ! Agreed [almost!] If 'The Wild Ones' was on NTL - it'd deffo be one of my all time SQ favourites.
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Post by dontquoteme on Aug 21, 2018 17:17:16 GMT
I love NTL, always have done, as I have JS. I think it’s because they were the albums that had recently been released at the time when I first got into Quo.
As years have passed though I always felt that those 2 albums should have been One - or perhaps a double album at a push. By taking the strongest tracks from JS / NTL then what an album it would have been.
The amount of material they came up with for those sessions was quite prolific, in spite of the band being on the verge of imploding. This would have left a lot of decent tracks ‘in the vault’ for future release (or B sides as most ended up being).
I would have dropped SBYBIL, LA, FIFO and EIE from the final ‘Single’ album release.
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Post by thepiledrivergorilla on Aug 24, 2018 16:47:06 GMT
I love this album, I saw Quo for the first time as a 15 year old at the Apollo Theatre in Glasgow during the tour to support Never Too Late - it will always be a special album to me for that reason - awesome!!!
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 5, 2018 11:28:09 GMT
I listened to the album to refresh my memory.
It's not a bad album overall, it sounds raw and imperfect (in a good way). And I do like several of the songs, even SBYBIL which is so overplayed but still sounds very nice in its original incarnation. Carol does feel out of place though.
It certainly could have been better, and there's only one song I would include on a personal "best-of" sampler - Take Me Away. And as I said, the B-side really has issues. I don't really like to skip tracks, but tracks 7-9 are all testing my patience a bit. Even the much-praised "Riverside" just never really does its ambition justice, but it's certainly one I'd have liked to hear live.
A remix to remove some of the clutter and the unnecessary add-ons would be nice, but I doubt that it would improve my opinion of the songs I don't care for. I mean, "Don't Stop Me Now" barely even qualifies as a demo! With such songwriting deficits, you can remix all you want. RAOTW had very good songs to begin with (well, except maybe "Baby Boy"), so it was an easier task. All imho of course.
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Post by asthequoflies on Aug 27, 2022 14:13:27 GMT
This past week has been revisiting the opening 80s trio; JS, NTL and 1982. Collectively while not in the same strata for many (including me) of the 1970-1976 period, the three albums put forward contain quite the quotient of quality tracks, minimal filler, and even hints at maturing/adapting the sound to a new era.
JS was the first full studio album I had from Quo, and all these years later I still rate it and enjoy returning to it. Poppier than the 70s but pop melodies built into still quality songwriting. Yes, even the backing vox, the helium delirium of Frost. JS wouldn't have a skippable track for me.
NTL is hard hitting, but also melodic. Carol and SBYBIL are excellent covers, respectively raucous and swaggering. Almost the full Side 2 (Long Ago - Riverside) is as good a side of Quo as any other besides some of the early classics. Long Ago being the only track not quite at the same level. The run from ML to Riverside is wonderful; an 18 or so minute suite of compelling Quo rock'n'roll.
The title track & Falling Off are decent, not entirely essentials, but Take Me Away is the gem of the originals on Side 1. Overall a very strong album, alike JS before it. For me it may not pack quite the same visceral punch or scale the same heights as their greatest era, the WYW to NTL (or even 1982) era is absolutely worthy on it's own merit as perhaps the second most important era of their catalogue.
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Post by mortified on Aug 27, 2022 21:53:53 GMT
As with most things Quo (and especially on forums like this), everything can be in retrospect. Never Too Late is no exception. At the time of it's release, I didn't think it matched Just Supposin'. But it was still bl00dy good. In retrospect (see? ), we now know it contained some leftovers from previous recording sessions although, in reality, it was probably a bit less simple than that. And, in retrospect, it remains Supposin's slightly less talented little brother . Take Me Away is the stand-out and follows the 'theme' of the Whatever You Want album. It would have fitted on there quite nicely. It's also completely different, stylistically, from the rest of the album. It thumps along like no other track, the bass shaking the foundations of the family home in 1981. Crying out to be played live. It never was. It would be interesting to know the band's take on the album. Quo didn't tour the UK in 1980 so the Never Too Late tour basically had two albums of new material to showcase. But all they included in the set was the single. All the other new songs (3 of them) were from Just Supposin'. Does that speak volumes? Possibly. For me, it's a good Quo album but not a great one. Most of the great stuff was on Supposin'. Take Me Away being the exception in my book. Just as an afterthought, I like Enough Is Enough and I LOVE Francis's guitar solo. It's simple and just a little weird. And, in retrospect, I didn't like Mountain Lady at all. I still don't.
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Post by stringybob on Aug 28, 2022 2:13:24 GMT
"Quo didn't tour the UK in 1980 so the Never Too Late tour basically had two albums of new material to showcase. But all they included in the set was the single"
Make that THREE albums. They hadn't toured the UK since before the release of 'Whatever You Want'
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Post by mortified on Aug 28, 2022 7:10:09 GMT
"Quo didn't tour the UK in 1980 so the Never Too Late tour basically had two albums of new material to showcase. But all they included in the set was the single" Make that THREE albums. They hadn't toured the UK since before the release of 'Whatever You Want' That's true actually 👍 I hadn't seen the band since May 1979 and that was a good few months before Whatever You Want came out. It's a long time ago but I think only the single ( Whatever You Want) made it into the '81 set. The 'quiet' song would have been Rock 'n' Roll as opposed to Living On An Island.
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