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Post by Mac on Jul 7, 2018 16:37:53 GMT
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 8, 2018 0:23:38 GMT
Thanks for the link Mac.
This is episode 8 of a podcast Dead Rock Stars about Rick. Presenter Joel McIver chats with Mick Wall.
What a strange interview. Plenty of factual inaccuricies for sure. But generally I thought it rings true. And it was odd to hear familiar stories slightly misremembered by Mick Wall who couldn't have been present and is retelling what he was told by Rick and Francis. His stories when he was present are more interesting anyway because we've not heard them before.
And as a moderator, I'm adding a warning that the account of Rick's collapse in Turkey in summer 2016 is much darker than we were told but as Mac says, some of the details may well not be true. One fact is certainly wrong. It was Turkey and not the Isle of Wight.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 8, 2018 0:39:21 GMT
He seems to spout a lot of shite... and calling Patty 'Patsy'
She's also confirmed a lot of the stories to be bullshit over on facebook... especially the one about her dressing up as a chauffeur
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 8, 2018 3:24:21 GMT
He seems to spout a lot of shite... and calling Patty 'Patsy' She's also confirmed a lot of the stories to be bullshit over on facebook... especially the one about her dressing up as a chauffeur Yeah, that really annoyed me too. If us fans can get these details correct, why can't he? |
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jul 8, 2018 9:47:25 GMT
He seems to spout a lot of shite... and calling Patty 'Patsy' She's also confirmed a lot of the stories to be bullshit over on facebook... especially the one about her dressing up as a chauffeur Yeah, that really annoyed me too. If us fans can get these details correct, why can't he? Patty's book (assisted by M Bruce) has mistakes particularly in terms of songs. Another perspective though and from someone emotionally connected to the band. Not the first time I've heard the chauffeur story. Though, if true, could have been any number of drivers! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 10:26:27 GMT
Yeah, that really annoyed me too. If us fans can get these details correct, why can't he? Patty's book (assisted by M Bruce) has mistakes particularly in terms of songs. Another perspective though and from someone emotionally connected to the band. Not the first time I've heard the chauffeur story. Though, if true, could have been any number of drivers! Ms Beedon's only emotional connection was to Rick's bank account. |
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jul 8, 2018 11:06:29 GMT
Patty's book (assisted by M Bruce) has mistakes particularly in terms of songs. Another perspective though and from someone emotionally connected to the band. Not the first time I've heard the chauffeur story. Though, if true, could have been any number of drivers! Ms Beedon's only emotional connection was to Rick's bank account. I can imagine that said about Debbie Ash, when she dumped Rick when he was in the red. Perhaps a bit of a shock for her that the coffers were in bad shape. Patty had been around Rick for many years and through the lean times as well I believe. It seems Francis and first wife were quite protective of Patty in the early days, perhaps because they noticed the changes in Rick and how the business had started to turn Rick's head. Francis was quite fond of Marietta and Patty. I'm sure there is an attraction to the star trappings ...of course there is, but having a child together is something else. Rick just didn't seem to do happy families for too long and preferred such things on a much more part-time basis! Don't think any of us know for sure as we are not them! |
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Post by Mac on Jul 8, 2018 15:55:09 GMT
Patty Parfitts reply to my link on Facebook.......
Well what a load of bollocks cannot believe Mick got so much wrong times places and made out Rick to be a total idiot. I'm really pissed off with this crap more about Quo and other bands than Rick total shit...
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Post by paradiseflats on Jul 8, 2018 15:57:44 GMT
Patty Parfitts reply to my link on Facebook....... Well what a load of bollocks cannot believe Mick got so much wrong times places and made out Rick to be a total idiot. I'm really pissed off with this crap more about Quo and other bands than Rick total shit... Have you mistyped this or does it make little sense. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 8, 2018 19:46:06 GMT
Patty Parfitts reply to my link on Facebook....... Well what a load of bollocks cannot believe Mick got so much wrong times places and made out Rick to be a total idiot. I'm really pissed off with this crap more about Quo and other bands than Rick total shit... Have you mistyped this or does it make little sense. Or maybe she was upset and a bit incoherent. I got the gist of what she mean't, anyway. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 8, 2018 20:14:38 GMT
I cross checked the story about Rick moving into the Dorchester after he went bankrupt with what Rick said in Access All Areas biography, which Mick Wall wrote. The story in the podcast is correct but two details are wrong. It was not the Dorchester (a much grander hotel altogether) but the Holiday Inn, Chelsea, penthouse suite. I'm sure it wasn't cheap but probably not half as expensive as the Dorchester. But also closer to where Rick had been living. And Rick did do a runner after 3 months without paying the bill but later did pay it once he got his advance on that earlier solo album. Patty can't have been Rick's chauffeur at this time because she was still in Australia and didn't return until later. So as fretbuzzzzz says, it may well have been another of Rick's girlfriends or partners. (I decided this going by the timeline of her story in her book. I take that as accurate even if other Quo facts are not.) In conclusion, I've decided that as Mick didn't live through many of the moments he refers to in the podcast and he's repeating stories 2nd hand, it makes more sense why he often gets the detail wrong. It wasn't his life story. The story that he did experience, over Rick's new Bentley and watching him show it later to the waiter, well that happened to Mick, so I guess that is true. Sad to hear that though but unsurprising, also. |
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Post by Mac on Jul 8, 2018 21:15:07 GMT
Have you mistyped this or does it make little sense. Some basic punctuation would have helped. It was a copy and paste, why would I put in some punctuation...……. |
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Post by Mac on Jul 8, 2018 21:22:05 GMT
It was a copy and paste, why would I put in some punctuation...……. I meant her, not you Lester. Relax.  I'll tell her next time I see her...…..  |
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jul 9, 2018 14:20:02 GMT
I cross checked the story about Rick moving into the Dorchester after he went bankrupt with what Rick said in Access All Areas biography, which Mick Wall wrote. The story in the podcast is correct but two details are wrong. It was not the Dorchester (a much grander hotel altogether) but the Holiday Inn, Chelsea, penthouse suite. I'm sure it wasn't cheap but probably not half as expensive as the Dorchester. But also closer to where Rick had been living. And Rick did do a runner after 3 months without paying the bill but later did pay it once he got his advance on that earlier solo album. Patty can't have been Rick's chauffeur at this time because she was still in Australia and didn't return until later. So as fretbuzzzzz says, it may well have been another of Rick's girlfriends or partners. (I decided this going by the timeline of her story in her book. I take that as accurate even if other Quo facts are not.) In conclusion, I've decided that as Mick didn't live through many of the moments he refers to in the podcast and he's repeating stories 2nd hand, it makes more sense why he often gets the detail wrong. It wasn't his life story. The story that he did experience, over Rick's new Bentley and watching him show it later to the waiter, well that happened to Mick, so I guess that is true. Sad to hear that though but unsurprising, also. As Rick was banned from driving, Patty had to drive him to their wedding in Rick's Rolls Royce, whilst still wearing her hat! If it had been legal I'm sure Rick would have married one of his cars. Possibly the Porsche 911. Obsessed doesn't cover it adequately. In the late 60s/early 70s Rick and Francis used to draw pictures of Mini Coopers together. Bonded them as mates but it wasn't until much later that Francis said that Rick hadn't got it yet that he (Francis) isn't that interested in cars. I think Rick thought everyone should share his enthusiasm! |
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jul 9, 2018 22:01:24 GMT
If I was asked about some time I spent with somebody over the years, I’d remember a story to differing degrees of accuracy , and probably would at best have a hazy recollection of the dates and year etc
We’re not really used to having non band members talking in depth about the band. They are not anoraks or historians. It really doesn’t bother me in the slightest that anybody talking Quo in this way will get loads of basic stuff wrong about factual, checkable stuff. I wouldn’t expect anything different.
I can see the argument that a music journo should get basic facts right , but I only expect that if it’s a book or magazine article. Wall probably gets anecdotes about bands mixed up.
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