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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 30, 2018 10:35:37 GMT
I see Quo as very British, but then I'm proud of the (English) region I'm from, proud to be British. Suspect southern English and midlands fans may be more likely to see the band as English than northerners do? For me, Quo is a deeply British thing, on a par with salty fish n chips. Welsh, Scots and Irish nationalists I suspect will see an English band....perhaps not so the non-nationalists?
But I'm more interested to learn how non-UK fans see & hear the band. Does a German fan think of Quo as British or English? Might Quo simply sound European to a North American? (I love Metallica, who sound European to me. I don't love any other US metal bands)
Some years back management started marketing Quo as English with it's merch. So Rick and Francis themselves saw the band as English...
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jun 30, 2018 11:33:53 GMT
I always thought being "British" was identifying with the British union comprising three countries. It seemd like a good idea at the time. I think I have to vote for Quo beeing "British" because I mainly can't tell the difference between and English band and a Scottish band and a Welsh band until someone tells me where they come from. I never knew Jon Anderson was Scottish till I heard an interview with him.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Jun 30, 2018 13:34:31 GMT
Probably will not make things any clearer but...
John C : his dad Scottish and mum from London and half French.
Francis Rossi : dad Italian and mum Irish.
No, I didn't think it would help.
No idea quite why Quo didn't have sustained success in the USA. There is a theory that the Americans didn't take to Rossi's understated Rockney vocal style. Though confusing when you consider that Pictures of Matchstick Men did chart well over there in the 60s. Though there is another theory that as Quo were only really heard on the radio over there at the time that the Americans thought Quo were an American band!
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Post by clonesydney on Jun 30, 2018 14:20:25 GMT
They're English. Nobody is "British". "Britain" is an island comprising three countries - Scotland, England & Wales. As you can be born in only ONE of those countries, you are either Scottish, English, or Welsh. "Britishness" is as fake as a Tory promise. I tend to agree with this sentiment. Britain is a fake "country" in that what proper country has 3 separate parliaments? For me it's a real shame that Scotland didn't vote for independence in 2014. I still think it will happen ultimately and from beleaguered England's perspective the sooner the better. However on the other hand a lot of people born in England identify as British Asian. Is that a fake identity?
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 30, 2018 14:37:42 GMT
I always thought being "British" was identifying with the British union comprising three countries. It seemd like a good idea at the time. I think I have to vote for Quo beeing "British" because I mainly can't tell the difference between and English band and a Scottish band and a Welsh band until someone tells me where they come from. I never knew Jon Anderson was Scottish till I heard an interview with him.
He was born in Lancashire, to a Scottish father and an Irish mother. And Tony Blair... he must be Scottish. 😋
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 30, 2018 14:44:41 GMT
i don’t really think about bands and their nationality unless there is a clear identity in the band or its music.
So Rammstein... as they sing in German, Babymetal... as they sing in Japanese etc etc System of a down and their important Armenian influence.
They came out of Blues rock, but it’s hardly a British sound. And Francis is heavily influenced by American artists.
There’s nothing about them that defines them as British or English.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 30, 2018 15:03:19 GMT
I tend to agree with this sentiment. Britain is a fake "country" in that what proper country has 3 separate parliaments? For me it's a real shame that Scotland didn't vote for independence in 2014. I still think it will happen ultimately and from beleaguered England's perspective the sooner the better. However on the other hand a lot of people born in England identify as British Asian. Is that a fake identity? "British" is fake. It refers to the island you were born on. So it’s not fake but clumsy. I can see why a Scot or Welshman doesn’t like it.
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Post by clonesydney on Jun 30, 2018 15:03:46 GMT
I tend to agree with this sentiment. Britain is a fake "country" in that what proper country has 3 separate parliaments? For me it's a real shame that Scotland didn't vote for independence in 2014. I still think it will happen ultimately and from beleaguered England's perspective the sooner the better. However on the other hand a lot of people born in England identify as British Asian. Is that a fake identity? "British" is fake. So what should "British Asians" call themselves?
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 30, 2018 15:05:00 GMT
So what should "British Asians" call themselves? The same as everyone else who lives here. As just about all of us didn’t start here.
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Post by Victor on Jun 30, 2018 15:38:49 GMT
I see Quo as very British, but then I'm proud of the (English) region I'm from, proud to be British. Suspect southern English and midlands fans may be more likely to see the band as English than northerners do? For me, Quo is a deeply British thing, on a par with salty fish n chips. Welsh, Scots and Irish nationalists I suspect will see an English band....perhaps not so the non-nationalists? But I'm more interested to learn how non-UK fans see & hear the band. Does a German fan think of Quo as British or English? Might Quo simply sound European to a North American? (I love Metallica, who sound European to me. I don't love any other US metal bands) Some years back management started marketing Quo as English with it's merch. So Rick and Francis themselves saw the band as English... I am from Holland. Always have seen them as an English band, not a British one, just as I have always seen Scottish bands as Scottish and Irish ones as Irish
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 16:11:24 GMT
Countless times Porter has sickeningly referred to Quo as a "Great British institution" and then there was the Made In Britain tour.
But Porter's a fuddy-duddy who believes in values that no longer exist. And it's marketing. Some "fans" believe in this royalist pap.
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Post by dennis on Jun 30, 2018 16:26:08 GMT
I've always seen Quo as a London band
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 30, 2018 16:44:44 GMT
I've always seen Quo as a London band Me to... especially in their Rockney phase.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 16:48:41 GMT
He was born in Lancashire, to a Scottish father and an Irish mother. And Tony Blair... he must be Scottish. 😋 Back in the 90s I worked quite often with an English musical arranger who had been a pupil at Durham Cathedral School with Tony Blair and said he was incredibly right wing but even then had worked out that if he wanted power and to be leader of a political party it would take him at least 30 years in the conservative party so he took the short cut and joined Labour, according to my friend believing absolutely nothing about their ideology. He lost touch with him when he went to some uber posh private school in Edinburgh, where he was born.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 30, 2018 16:58:29 GMT
And Tony Blair... he must be Scottish. 😋 Back in the 90s I worked quite often with an English musical arranger who had been a pupil at Durham Cathedral School with Tony Blair and said he was incredibly right wing but even then had worked out that if he wanted power and to be leader of a political party it would take him at least 30 years in the conservative party so he took the short cut and joined Labour, according to my friend believing absolutely nothing about their ideology. He lost touch with him when he went to some uber posh private school in Edinburgh, where he was born. He was 13 when he moved schools. So I think its a tad unfair to think at that age he had made his life plans and sorted his political thinking. I know Tony, my Mam worked with him as he held his MP clinics at the Community Centre she was in charge of. I know or knew many of the local traditional Labour members who selected him. Im not justifying his decisions in office although I do think in domestic policy he did alot right.... Puts tin hat on...
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