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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 12:06:44 GMT
Had Alan's version of ORB been the only recording of that particular track...
Would it have been as big a hit as Francis' version was? Would it even have been released?
BTB had 4 singles from it. Assuming that ORB with Alan on vocals wasn't something the record company were keen on, what would have replaced it? And how would this have impacted the band's future?
If TCTTG, would this have dented the success of MT (which was probably going to be released in any case) due to it also being a laid-back type of song?
No Contract / YKOL? Could this maybe have shown the hard rock route WAS an option?
Or would the record company just have chosen something Francis-sung, i.e. Win or Lose anyway?
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Post by Gaz on May 31, 2018 12:23:27 GMT
Not being disrespectful mate but wgaff?
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Post by Railroad17 on May 31, 2018 16:27:06 GMT
would have been good to have songs like "Can't Understand Nothing Today".
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Post by freewilly on May 31, 2018 17:29:07 GMT
Francis said recently that, in hindsight, "perhaps the other three were right and we should have went down the rock route"
Since I read that, there is a part of me that begins to doubt the record company's influence on choice of singles...
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Post by paradiseflats on May 31, 2018 17:45:59 GMT
Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board.
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Post by markquo on May 31, 2018 18:18:39 GMT
Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board. No the silliest comment I ever read was some bloke thinking Rossi Quos gig in Scarborough was the best crowd he’d ever seen Cheers
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Post by paradiseflats on May 31, 2018 18:36:40 GMT
Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board. No the silliest comment I ever read was some bloke thinking Rossi Quos gig in Scarborough was the best crowd he’d ever seen Cheers Oh yes.
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Post by freewilly on May 31, 2018 18:38:34 GMT
Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board. It's not hard rock but, in comparison to MT, it's heavy metal. On it's own, it's soft rock. Although, I'd be interested to hear what it sounded like live at the time. Obviously wasn't played but, yano what I mean
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Post by gav on May 31, 2018 20:11:29 GMT
Francis said recently that, in hindsight, "perhaps the other three were right and we should have went down the rock route" Since I read that, there is a part of me that begins to doubt the record company's influence on choice of singles... Must have missed that interview. What was the context? Bit of a U-turn!
Thing is, if Francis is as insecure as he says, then he's pretty much winging it, therefore large pinch of salt whenever he opens his gob.
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Post by freewilly on May 31, 2018 20:14:59 GMT
Francis said recently that, in hindsight, "perhaps the other three were right and we should have went down the rock route" Since I read that, there is a part of me that begins to doubt the record company's influence on choice of singles... Must have missed that interview. What was the context? Bit of a U-turn! In the NTL reissue sleeve, said the other three were probably right in hindsight but, he loved country and opera and wanted to leave Quo as far back as 1974... Then, in the B2B reissue sleeve, he says Rick and Alan had words with him in 1974, saying he wasn't concentrating on the band enough and that he would never put forward solo material for a Quo release... Contradiction much?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 0:08:20 GMT
Not being disrespectful mate but wgaff? Just thought it was interesting given BTB was a crossroads in Quo history. Lots of what could have beens had a certain person not gone behind others' backs and put vocals on tracks that weren't his. Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board. You don't read your own posts?
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jun 1, 2018 9:20:28 GMT
Had Alan's version of ORB been the only recording of that particular track... Would it have been as big a hit as Francis' version was? Would it even have been released? BTB had 4 singles from it. Assuming that ORB with Alan on vocals wasn't something the record company were keen on, what would have replaced it? And how would this have impacted the band's future? If TCTTG, would this have dented the success of MT (which was probably going to be released in any case) due to it also being a laid-back type of song? No Contract / YKOL? Could this maybe have shown the hard rock route WAS an option? Or would the record company just have chosen something Francis-sung, i.e. Win or Lose anyway?
OK I'll have a go, since as you say B2B was the crossroads. (This is what happens when your record sleeve shows two trucks going off in different directions.)
I suspect the record company released ORG because it was about "blue jeans" and "if in doubt, use a cliche."
Otherwise, TCTTG is a better song, but it's way out of Quo's normal singles style. Also it might rather have begged the question about some of the band's undesirable habits. (So of course they released Margie instead - it may be an addiction but at least it's chirpy.)
Win or Lose is maybe my favourite off the album, and might have done the job, it's "Quo'd up enough."
I've just had a disturbing thought looking at the lyrics. If you want to know what F's problem with Alan was around that time, read the lyric. The first verse ties in with what someone said about Alan agitating for the band to leave the UK and go and work in the USA (Francis didn't want to leave the UK again after his sojourn in Ireland some years earlier) and the second verse is about the time Alan clouted a customs policeman in Austria and got the whole band arrested. Go figure.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jun 1, 2018 9:25:20 GMT
Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board. It's 1960s pop and they can't quite decide how to dress it up. I can't imagine the Metallica cover. Possibly Bananrama should have done it.
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Post by paradiseflats on Jun 1, 2018 10:42:28 GMT
Your kind of love... hard rock. Possibly the silliest comment I have ever read on a message board. It's 1960s pop and they can't quite decide how to dress it up. I can't imagine the Metallica cover. Possibly Bananrama should have done it.
I think it showed Alan was more than capable of writing melodic rock. It’s no classic but it’s a decent album track. Alan always had a good hear for a melody. But a single... nope. I don’t think there was a whole lot wrong with the choice of singles. We will simply never know wha5 would have happened if Alan had song on the single version of ORB. I doubt it would have made much difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 11:28:31 GMT
We will simply never know wha5 would have happened if Alan had song on the single version of ORB. Well, of course. It's hypothetical. But had there been only one version of ORB, it would have meant either that or another track from BTB being a single, because it looked like the record company wanted to eke as much out of the album as possible by releasing 4 singles. If ORB with Alan had been given the go-ahead and it was successful, it could have meant further Alan singles. If not, then the alternatives would have been interesting choices because two of them are rock tracks neither one sung by Francis and one a ballad. Like I said, they could have released Win or Lose. Who knows?
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